Roster Updates Take Step Back This Year

by pastapadre
Posted November 30th, 2009 at 6:40 am

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When it comes to the subject of roster updates there are various opinions on how often they should occur. However what everyone seems united in is that they should be at least consistent in the delivery of them. After having significant advancements made with the 09 titles the majority of games have actually fallen off from the expectations that were built up for this year.

-Madden 10 started with a stream of weekly roster updates but then quickly slipped. There was a stretch where only one update was released within a five week period. Through the end of November Madden 10 has received nine updates but in comparison Madden 09 had 13 in the same time period. The update used for Online Franchise is even farther behind. Players on IR are still allowed to be used in ranked games.

-NBA 2K10 with its “Living Rosters” feature has been updating semi-regularly however online play still uses the game’s default rosters. The full updates are not happening quite as frequently as they were with 2K9 but it is especially troubling that they aren’t used at all online.

-NBA Live 10 uses the DNA to automatically update which keeps the rosters correct but the game also relies on someone to update the full ratings manually and fix the newly inserted players. The first complete update wasn’t done until three weeks into the season.

-MLB 2K9 with its “Living Rosters” feature went months at a time without updating the rosters. Though in comparison to 2K8 it was actually an improvement.

-MLB 09: The Show continued its consistency with weekly updates. It is probably the series that held up best compared to its previous year in this regard.

Again it is consistency that is crucial. If it is too time consuming to do regular frequent updates with ratings changes than a good compromise is to at least get the rosters right and then deal with the ratings on a semi-regular basis. Laying out the concrete plan for updates in advance and communicating as much as possible would go a long way.

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  • giantsfan241 idiots
    Fucking idiots IAN CUMMINGS IS A FUCKING GIANTS FAN YOU FUCKING IDIOTS GO ON HIS TWITTER. MY GOD FUCKING IDIOTS ALL OVER DONT SPEAK IF YOU DOONT KNOW IDIOTS FUCK FUCK FUCK
  • dungy45
    Fuck a roster update where is my damn patch
  • Chris
    EA has just been plain lazy this year.
  • Chris
    EA should keep NCAA basketball and football. Without those, we'll be stuck with generic draft classes.
  • Jay z
    Remeber in the xbox version of sports games you were lucky to get 2 or 3 roster updates. be happy dont worry.
  • pitbill21
    WHERE IS THE ROSTER UPDATE IN ONLINE FRANCHISE. WE HAVENT HAD ONE IN MONTHS????????
  • BCEAGLES
    Have any of you guys noticed a trend? Ian cummings is a HUGEEEEEEEE giants fan. Whenever the giants lose we get no roster update and whenever the giants win mysteriously a roster update appears! I mean the giants are 6-5 but in the game play like the top 3 teams in the NFC. But if the season ended now they giants wouldnt even make the playoffs.

    Its funny because donny moore is the ratings guy but pay attention you'll notice the trend I have been noticing. Watch as soon as the giants win a roster update with mysteriously be ready for launch LOL.

    MADDEN is a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!
  • common sense
    Ian Cummings doesn't do the roster updates...Donny Moore does them.
  • J Hunt
    acrually ian is a titans fan Donnie(who does the roster updates) is a Giants fan...and yea ive noticed the same thing.....boo hoo donnie your giants are sucking get over it
  • HustlinOwl
    Once again why MLB The Show is the best sports franchise on the market
  • Moses
    the game is so boring and passive. All you do is hit one stupid button. Graphics are great, but the gameplay is so boring, and hasn't changed in years. I'd rather play with myself than that game.
  • Iota
    really disappointed with both ea and 2k not living up to their promises in this area
  • Theee Goose
    In madden 10 of course....
  • Theee Goose
    Hey pasta this patch is fixing the clock running on inappropriate times right??
  • Chris
    because hockey is dumb.
  • Chris
    EA should keep NCAA basketball and football. Without those, we'll be stuck with generic draft classes.
  • N/A
    Agreed that EA has stretched too thin, which is why they are cutting some titles in the future. EA should stick simply with Madden, NBA Live, UFC and maybe NHL That is all, just those sports titles.

    Look at the success MLB the Show is having...it is because EA is not making it. Not that EA is a bad gaming entity, but as you said, they just don't have enough time to put effort into all the titles they offer.

    Allow someone else to take over college sports as a whole, soccer, golf and racing.
  • Past dont worry nobody is complaining at the lack of roster updates with mlb 2k9...lol...but other than that, I would like to see ratings change take effect after atleast a few games to see if the player is for real and not a fluke, but I would like to see injures, trades , changed line ups and free agent signings updated as soon as possible.
  • N/A
    Disagree. NHL is most likely the best sports game on the market. The shame is, that like me, there is such little interest in the sport in the USA. The reason? Too many to list, but the NHL needs to look into and make some adjustments to the game of Hockey in the US if the sport in the USA is going to be around the next 50 years.
  • N/A
    i never even activated online franchise and all i do is play franchise mode. That goes to show the lack of commitment EA has shown toward the title and the promise features. If EA had marketed and delivered the way they promised, more people may have activated AND used the feature...and many users would be LESS disappointed with this stumbling management group that is EA.
  • Imagine if you learned some correct grammar so you did embarrass yourself every time you opened your little potty mouth on a message board? Awwwww, how proud would Mommy be if she saw the words that were coming out of her poor baby's mouth??
  • No disappointed in Madden roster updates as I am about the "promised" online franchise updates or "server-side development that would make changes so much easier" bologna that was crammed down our throats. See the quote below from EA's own blog on Madden 10:

    Above all else, the most important change is that Online Franchise is built around a server-based architecture. What that means is that very little support for the mode lives on the game disc itself…it lives online on our servers. The main reason we went that route was so we could add more features and do extra tweaks and tuning based on community feedback even after the game ships (so our fans don’t have to necessarily wait until Madden NFL 11 for something new to appear).

    The only change I've seen to this day in online franchise is the correction to fix where the logos were flip-flopped on the game stats page after games...Thanks EA.
  • friza
    not only are the madden IR players allowed to play, they are also substituted in automatically when other players are too tired to be on the field...
    So the whole inactive thing is just bogus! JUST MAKE ALL PLAYERS AVAILABLE AND PUT THOSE THAT DONT PLAY AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DEPTH CHART!!
  • N/A
    The continuous inconsistency clearly and loudly reflect EA's inadequacy and incompetency as it pertains to being in touch with its users. EA's reputation continues to decline in the gaming industry. It is only a matter of time until EA loses its stronghold on certain titles as users lose faith and trust in them as a sports gaming juggernaut. EA needs to make drastic changes in 2011 in order to restore its once prominent and fool-proof reputation in the sports gaming world.

    This will need to start with a simple plan on how often and when updates will be released ACROSS ALL titles. Users need to see that EA does in fact have a plan of attack because the inconsistency shows a lack of business acumen which reflects poorly on its ability to sustain long-term sustainability in the sports gaming world with its loyal customer base.
  • right, way to be an idiot. you are awesome bc you worked around his filter system, kudos to you!!

    but, if you gonna go that route, the only game he mentioned above worth anything is MLB The Show..
  • Boss
    cuz Hockey Fukking sukks wth are you talkin about, imagine if padre started talkin about hockey consistently....
  • what about NHL Pasta?

    NHL 10 - has had i do believe 4 updates now. they have been dropping every 2 weeks. (last year just had 4 total i do believe)

    NHL 2K 10 - has had 3 updates so far. (last year i think only 2 or 3 total)

    both improvements from last year up to this point.

    why no hockey love here at the site?
  • Rude Boy
    When it comes down to it EA in particular have stretched themselves too thin. Someone above said that the developers have better things to do with their time then fool with rosters which I agree with I'll take it a step further & say that developers shouldn't even mess with rosters. EA has to hire professionals of the sports. The problem with the rosters is that less known players don't get respect if you got the ratings right initially updates wouldn't be needed very often. I don't do NBA gaming so I can't comment on that but Madden is real close to being so good that an annual installment wouldn't even be needed. Pro scouts need to be added to the EA team!!! Let the geeks worry about glitches, frame rate, animations, etc. & let the sports geeks handle grading a players talent bc when it comes down to it there's way too many discrepancies in spd in madden as someone also said above the NFL is a spd game everyone is fast just last year Manning with the Bears looked just like Hester returning kicks the talent is spread out the spd is spread out but someone who's just a fan wouldn't know that i.e. the Madden production team
  • Chaston
    BS THEY DON"T NEED ROSTER UPDATES!!! Brett Favre was a freakn 82 to begin with.... next roster update he'll be in the high 90's... and what about the rookies? Brian Cushing was a 77, he will now be in the high 80's. sometimes you just can't know whose going to perform well and without roster updates the rosters are basically just a continuation of the previous season rather than a simulation of this season...
  • DJ Reisinger
    see the prob is with the updates in madden to is when they upgrade and down grade a player they do it in the rong stats like T.O is a big one they down grade his speed ALOT yet he has not really lost any speed as he has shown these past 2 weeks its really his getting of the press rout running / catching that should be down graded if hes doing bad cuz those r his real probs not drop his speed to 88 he is alot faster then that so these guys that do these updates really need to make them better and yes mile austin really should be a 88 overall guy at least with 96 speed felix should have 97 speed for dallas like he did in 09 now that he is healthy again
  • I would tend to agree with you DJ...the problem is that in order to truly downgrade TO you have to take away his speed. Madden is a speed game. I think it goes without saying that it is the most important stat for online play.

    With respect to catch and route running, those stats don't have nearly the impact that you'd expect. Intricate routes aren't what online players use him for. They use TO on slants, streaks and screens. And this is true of nearly every wideout.

    It makes very little sense, but I have found it to be true.
  • xX L Boogie Xx
    I really think this website should change its name to ratingschangepadre.com. This subject is getting very old. Yea you have your players in real life that deserve to be changed like a Miles Austin who has been putting up crazy numbers. I do not believe in spending all this time boosting players 1 or 2 points only to have to take those rating points away when the perform badly. It doesnt make sense i really think developers time could be used better. if a player is putting up good numbers and has a low rating give him a boost but only if he does over 6 weeks or so and if a player is on IR put them on IR. That should be it. Dont up a corners catch rating every time they get a pick.
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    cosign.
  • MikeyP
    I agree. I would be in favor of a first of the month rating adjustment for players - this way there are 3 or 4 games to base the adjustment on. Roster changes (IR, Depth Chart, New Players) should still be made weekly. I don't understand why Madden's updates we're missing for 5 weeks - if the person who does that update is out why isn't there a backup?
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