NHL 2K Omission May Be Sign of Cancellation

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Posted December 18th, 2009 at 12:16 am

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Ever since Take Two decided to shut down College Hoops due to the lack of sales potential vs development costs the next game that appeared to be in danger was the NHL 2K series. Sales have been dropping to miniscule levels as EA Sports NHL has grown and dominated the market. While it has been clear that resources have been limited with NHL 2K there have been no official statements made as to the future of the franchise.

However now there is an indication that NHL 2K11 may not be in development. In the Q4 fiscal report from Take Two on Thursday the games planned for the next fiscal year were laid out. Noticeably absent from the list is the mention of NHL 2K11.

One might think it was just an omission or the game was too far out from release to be cited. That is not the case though as NBA 2K11 is included and the NBA game comes out a month after the NHL game. The list is based on all titles planned for the coming year.

I went back to the previous year’s press release for Q4 2008 results which does display NHL 2K10 as being on the horizon. The 2007 Q4 report mentions NHL 2K9. That suggests there is a reason that it’s missing this time around.

When College Hoops was canceled it wasn’t until mid-January that Take Two made an official statement. Interestingly enough it was missing from the mentioned titles in that fiscal report but it wasn’t known until a month later that it was gone for good. That seems to be the exact situation that we have here with NHL 2K.

So there really may be something to this. Just recently it was 2K Sports MLB license deal that was stated to be the drag on the company but no mention was made regarding NHL one way or the other. Should any news make its way out regarding the future of NHL 2K I will be sure to update.

(Update) With response from 2K Sports

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  • LayZ

    I think even less people would care if NHL 2K went away than NCAA Basketball. But both games seem like they're on the way out.

  • LayZ

    I think even less people would care if NHL 2K went away than NCAA Basketball. But both games seem like they're on the way out.

  • Lake Allen

    Doesnt surprise me. They havent released a roster update in like a month and a half now. They also didnt patch the ps3 version of the game.

  • Lake Allen

    Doesnt surprise me. They havent released a roster update in like a month and a half now. They also didnt patch the ps3 version of the game.

  • ahhh finally mr ea blogger posts 2k info.. but negative info at that!!

    kudos to you ass clown!!

    • AmenRa

      LMAO That was funny man….

  • ahhh finally mr ea blogger posts 2k info.. but negative info at that!!

    kudos to you ass clown!!

    • AmenRa

      LMAO That was funny man….

  • NoFro904

    eh its hockey

  • eh its hockey

  • Its a travesty…as is 2K Sports in general. NHL 2K Hockey is such an underrated gem of a game and the irony in all this stink is the fact that the MLB 2K game which is the real stinker is responsible for this entire mess….which is also responsible for destroying one of 2K's other great titles, College Hoops!

    2K should try to salvage whatever's left and start heavily negotiating (begging) EA to work some sort of Exclusive License rights exchange so both companies can make Baseball and Football games. The 2 sports that both 2K and EA are proficient at, they legally cant even create because of all this silly greed and politics. Good old corporate capitalism at its finest!

    Who really suffers?….hmmm (looking in the mirror)

    • I know people are upset with the exclusive license agreement but this topic is currently at the supreme court as we speak. Taking into consideration the amount of money (taxes) that could be made with competition they could put an end to this business practice.

  • Its a travesty…as is 2K Sports in general. NHL 2K Hockey is such an underrated gem of a game and the irony in all this stink is the fact that the MLB 2K game which is the real stinker is responsible for this entire mess….which is also responsible for destroying one of 2K's other great titles, College Hoops!

    2K should try to salvage whatever's left and start heavily negotiating (begging) EA to work some sort of Exclusive License rights exchange so both companies can make Baseball and Football games. The 2 sports that both 2K and EA are proficient at, they legally cant even create because of all this silly greed and politics. Good old corporate capitalism at its finest!

    Who really suffers?….hmmm (looking in the mirror)

    • I know people are upset with the exclusive license agreement but this topic is currently at the supreme court as we speak. Taking into consideration the amount of money (taxes) that could be made with competition they could put an end to this business practice.

  • marmot

    its sad but true…we only have one ..sometimes two products to choose from for sports titles and it only hurts us

  • marmot

    its sad but true…we only have one ..sometimes two products to choose from for sports titles and it only hurts us

  • Crosby

    does anyone know when the 2k liscense with baseball expires?

    • Marshall

      i think after next year? i believe they have 2 years left…so they will release 2k10 and 2k11 and that will probably be it…i think after that EA will take over the baseball rights

  • Crosby

    does anyone know when the 2k liscense with baseball expires?

    • Marshall

      i think after next year? i believe they have 2 years left…so they will release 2k10 and 2k11 and that will probably be it…i think after that EA will take over the baseball rights

  • Sad to see the sports videogame market in such a decline.

  • Sad to see the sports videogame market in such a decline.

  • GoMagic

    They gambled with spending the money to bring this thing to Wii and it probably didnt work out…just like every other team sports game on the Wii. And now the franchise is probably losing money and 2K has every right to dump it…at least for a year. Maybe it will take a 2-year cycle to make a comeback although i dont know how financially responsible that would be.

    So without being able to get in on the Wii market with no competition there, that was probably the last effort. The good news is that EA's NHL game can be unchanged for 5 years and still be awesome.

  • GoMagic

    They gambled with spending the money to bring this thing to Wii and it probably didnt work out…just like every other team sports game on the Wii. And now the franchise is probably losing money and 2K has every right to dump it…at least for a year. Maybe it will take a 2-year cycle to make a comeback although i dont know how financially responsible that would be.

    So without being able to get in on the Wii market with no competition there, that was probably the last effort. The good news is that EA's NHL game can be unchanged for 5 years and still be awesome.

  • Otis

    Damn Pasta, the hate for 2K is ridiculous. I am curious what they ever did to you? Also, the comment last night on your twitter page about you being glad that The Show did not add gimmicky right stick controls is just further proof you hate 2K Sports. Please let me know, does EA provide you any compensation, and will you ever disclose the compensation as per the new FCC blogging rules?

    You site is a joke, you are the Glenn Beck of videogames.

    • MikeyP

      yes this site is a joke. How dare you present a hypothesis with…..facts to back it up.

    • Lake Allen

      So, where were you when Pasta predicted that NCAA Basketball will be canceled?

      So idiotic some of these posters. This article has nothing to do with being for or against 2K. Its a news story.

    • Glenn Beck is a whistle blower you kool-aid drinker. Pasta is a EA gimmick site to aid in propaganda for their product's.

    • pasta "EA" padre

      +1

      Funny….I don't see pasta replying to this guy, who has a legitimate question. All we want to know is how much EA pays you.

    • AmenRa

      I got a question…. Why are your reading page if he is a joke. Twitter is already gay and you take it one step further by subscribing to people you don't like.

      Man this world is getting way too sissified!!!!

  • Otis

    Damn Pasta, the hate for 2K is ridiculous. I am curious what they ever did to you? Also, the comment last night on your twitter page about you being glad that The Show did not add gimmicky right stick controls is just further proof you hate 2K Sports. Please let me know, does EA provide you any compensation, and will you ever disclose the compensation as per the new FCC blogging rules?

    You site is a joke, you are the Glenn Beck of videogames.

    • MikeyP

      yes this site is a joke. How dare you present a hypothesis with…..facts to back it up.

    • Lake Allen

      So, where were you when Pasta predicted that NCAA Basketball will be canceled?

      So idiotic some of these posters. This article has nothing to do with being for or against 2K. Its a news story.

    • Glenn Beck is a whistle blower you kool-aid drinker. Pasta is a EA gimmick site to aid in propaganda for their product's.

    • pasta "EA" padre

      +1

      Funny….I don't see pasta replying to this guy, who has a legitimate question. All we want to know is how much EA pays you.

    • AmenRa

      I got a question…. Why are your reading page if he is a joke. Twitter is already gay and you take it one step further by subscribing to people you don't like.

      Man this world is getting way too sissified!!!!

  • CrimsonVoodoo

    Bottom LIne to this is sports games – with all the various licensing issues are crazy expensive to produce – the cost to make games this generation is outstripping the audience who will buy them. The market, whether it’s hockey, college hoops, NBA, etc cannot support multiple iterations of the the same sport given the required budgets

    • And the reason why the COST to make these games this generation is higher than the audience willing to buy them is because these f&^%ing suites and project managers that design these games have no concept on how to make a game that will increase in sales each year. These same companies are pouring more wasted money and development into useless bull$hit features while the actual gameplay is inferior to the same product they produced 6 years earlier on a previous gen console!

      Just for a second, if someone had a clue in management to take a step back and think, " Hmmm, before we waste anymore time and development dollars on adding a Mascot Showdown mode, mini game DNA module, or spending the money to send an army of designers out to Wisconsin to make sure that they have Badger Stadium's left endzone corridor accurately modeled, maybe….just maybe they can prioritize a fraction of those dollars to improve the actual gameplay experience for the player. Hmmm?

      MLB The Show is the best Sports game on any platform for a reason….they have their priorities in order and they dont spread themselves and their money too thin with useless features to try and bullet on the back of their box each year.

      • CrimsonVoodoo

        Well, there's two points to that –

        One – it can be assumed that sports games have a "finite" audience. The sales figures will vary within a range based on acceptance / quality, but people with little interest in sports won't go out and buy NBA2K/The Show etc. even if it does have great reviews. The costs for making these games continue to rise without the potential for "breakout" sales

        Your idea – cut the annual new features has it's appeal, but frankly you face diminshing returns by releasing a game that your exisiting audience will see as a "roster update" I heard some of that from fans of The Show last year, and adding a Home Run derby isn't going to quiet those. My guess now is that The Show's sales will be flat this year plus/minus 5%. Actually, for the publisher's that's not bad as long as the costs for adding the new gimmick every year is low and the retention of the audience base remains strong. That's the balancing act. You don't make money the first year you release the game – it's the annual releases that can be produced for much lower costs where the windfall kicks in

  • CrimsonVoodoo

    Bottom LIne to this is sports games – with all the various licensing issues are crazy expensive to produce – the cost to make games this generation is outstripping the audience who will buy them. The market, whether it’s hockey, college hoops, NBA, etc cannot support multiple iterations of the the same sport given the required budgets

    • And the reason why the COST to make these games this generation is higher than the audience willing to buy them is because these f&^%ing suites and project managers that design these games have no concept on how to make a game that will increase in sales each year. These same companies are pouring more wasted money and development into useless bull$hit features while the actual gameplay is inferior to the same product they produced 6 years earlier on a previous gen console!

      Just for a second, if someone had a clue in management to take a step back and think, " Hmmm, before we waste anymore time and development dollars on adding a Mascot Showdown mode, mini game DNA module, or spending the money to send an army of designers out to Wisconsin to make sure that they have Badger Stadium's left endzone corridor accurately modeled, maybe….just maybe they can prioritize a fraction of those dollars to improve the actual gameplay experience for the player. Hmmm?

      MLB The Show is the best Sports game on any platform for a reason….they have their priorities in order and they dont spread themselves and their money too thin with useless features to try and bullet on the back of their box each year.

      • CrimsonVoodoo

        Well, there's two points to that –

        One – it can be assumed that sports games have a "finite" audience. The sales figures will vary within a range based on acceptance / quality, but people with little interest in sports won't go out and buy NBA2K/The Show etc. even if it does have great reviews. The costs for making these games continue to rise without the potential for "breakout" sales

        Your idea – cut the annual new features has it's appeal, but frankly you face diminshing returns by releasing a game that your exisiting audience will see as a "roster update" I heard some of that from fans of The Show last year, and adding a Home Run derby isn't going to quiet those. My guess now is that The Show's sales will be flat this year plus/minus 5%. Actually, for the publisher's that's not bad as long as the costs for adding the new gimmick every year is low and the retention of the audience base remains strong. That's the balancing act. You don't make money the first year you release the game – it's the annual releases that can be produced for much lower costs where the windfall kicks in

  • Was hoping that mlb 2k11 was missing of that list also, maybe they will save themselves the trouble and get back into college basketball now that it looks like E.A. sports will drop that, with 2k being the only college game out there im sure they will a tleast turn some profit for it

    • sportsgamer

      College Hoops just doesnt sell well AT ALL. It doesnt have a huge fan base. No matter how good the game is, the risk vs reward on college hoops is not enough to continue to make a game.

      If this is true, i really hope they come out with another fully customizable football game. We all know EA's football is a horrible representation of the sport they are trying to mimic.

  • Was hoping that mlb 2k11 was missing of that list also, maybe they will save themselves the trouble and get back into college basketball now that it looks like E.A. sports will drop that, with 2k being the only college game out there im sure they will a tleast turn some profit for it

    • sportsgamer

      College Hoops just doesnt sell well AT ALL. It doesnt have a huge fan base. No matter how good the game is, the risk vs reward on college hoops is not enough to continue to make a game.

      If this is true, i really hope they come out with another fully customizable football game. We all know EA's football is a horrible representation of the sport they are trying to mimic.

  • Jason

    if any 2k game should be missing on a list, it should be the mlb series….it confuses me why people even buy this game…i find myself (360 owner) much more entertained not playing a baseball game at all compared to buying that crap

    • An analyst actually asked them if they would stop making the game to save money. They said they really wouldnt save any money by not making it. They lose about the same either way.

  • Jason

    if any 2k game should be missing on a list, it should be the mlb series….it confuses me why people even buy this game…i find myself (360 owner) much more entertained not playing a baseball game at all compared to buying that crap

    • An analyst actually asked them if they would stop making the game to save money. They said they really wouldnt save any money by not making it. They lose about the same either way.

  • Goud

    They should just stick to NBA and NFL (if they ever get that license back). All the other games suck.

  • Goud

    They should just stick to NBA and NFL (if they ever get that license back). All the other games suck.

  • I felt the absolute joy in the typing of this article. Did anyone else feel it? Thanks for the post Pasta, you sure sound, I mean EA should be happy for this news.

  • I felt the absolute joy in the typing of this article. Did anyone else feel it? Thanks for the post Pasta, you sure sound, I mean EA should be happy for this news.

  • bob

    Funny how some loner on the internet can type with joy – lol

  • bob

    Funny how some loner on the internet can type with joy – lol

  • Yeah 2k needs to make football games only because they suck E A isnt any better thou caus madden sucks Live is in the works finally and 2k is struggling with there basketball game with onlune problems and game problems so with playstation taking the baseball with the show they have it locked up cause thats the best baseball i have ever played,so my point is all companys are going to have a advantage soon cause 2k needs football E A needs fiba,nhl, and nba and playstation has baseball locked up

  • Yeah 2k needs to make football games only because they suck E A isnt any better thou caus madden sucks Live is in the works finally and 2k is struggling with there basketball game with onlune problems and game problems so with playstation taking the baseball with the show they have it locked up cause thats the best baseball i have ever played,so my point is all companys are going to have a advantage soon cause 2k needs football E A needs fiba,nhl, and nba and playstation has baseball locked up

  • Jamez

    Looks like Pasta broke the story. Now Kotaku, Yahoo, and Gamespot all reporting on it.

  • Jamez

    Looks like Pasta broke the story. Now Kotaku, Yahoo, and Gamespot all reporting on it.

  • macpuck

    I've been predicting that 2k was in the process of self-destruction ever since it fired Kush after releasing NHL2k8. The gameplay is more interesting than EA's gameplay but the servers are always down, the roster updates are belated and inaccurate and their marketing is weak. I get the distinct impression that the company is severely understaffed and the hockey people they have, if any, don't really much of a clue.

  • macpuck

    I've been predicting that 2k was in the process of self-destruction ever since it fired Kush after releasing NHL2k8. The gameplay is more interesting than EA's gameplay but the servers are always down, the roster updates are belated and inaccurate and their marketing is weak. I get the distinct impression that the company is severely understaffed and the hockey people they have, if any, don't really much of a clue.

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