#6 of 2009: NBA Live 10

by pastapadre
Posted December 23rd, 2009 at 8:03 pm

The ranking of games in the best of 2009 list is based primarily on the personal amount of enjoyment had with a particular title. Some other factors include whether advertised features were fully delivered on, post-release support, community interaction and communication, overall gameplay experience, feature set, and online play performance. Again this is a personal take on the games. The analysis is weighted largely towards those which I had the most fun with while considering them as a whole and compared relatively to the others.

This was a critical year for the NBA Live franchise to attempt to establish itself against the competition. In terms of quality NBA Live 10 was good enough that many took notice but in terms of sales it lost even more ground.The game excelled in some areas but also had some frustrating flaws that held it back from being one I could feel completely passionate about.

After playing the demo I actually stated in my impressions that I wasn’t sure if I liked Live 10 better than Live 09. That changed with the full version of the game but many of those gripes I had in the demo turned into annoyances that did affect my level of gameplay enjoyment.

Overall gameplay would feel sloppy at times because of a high number of turnovers. Just getting bumped down low meant losing control of the ball. It was nearly impossible to drive the lane and get a shot off without being drawn into a contact animation. These rarely resulted in fouls and usually ended up being missed, meanwhile the CPU tended to make those same shots. Attempting penetration basically felt like wasting a possession and that severely altered how I could play the game.

The new freestyle passing with the right stick felt great to use at times but I never felt as though I could rely on it. Same with the directional based passing which remains inconsistent. Those mistakes would result in additional turnovers but so would normal passes that felt safe only for the CPU steal or tip them away with my teammates not being aggressive in going for the ball.

I also found it really difficult to play one-on-one defense. There was no mechanic to really stabilize position so any movement in one direction resulted in giving the opposing player an opening. It made it difficult to play user defense since that player could just drive right by and as such made the tendency to switch and play off-ball.

Probably the other biggest issue for me outside of the general sloppy feel was the lack of fast breaks. Live 10 is an excellent half-court representation of the NBA but there were so few fast breaks for both the CPU and the user. Basically the reason as far as I saw it was even one player back on defense could just draw the ball handler into a contact animation and the shot would be missed. But even those type of opportunities were rare. Fast breaks were never really improved on with the patches.

Despite those things mentioned above the game also got many things right out of the box. Shot percentages and stat output were realistic. Live 10 rewards playing basketball the right way for the most part with running plays, setting screens, ball movement, and creating space being critical. Hustle plays were implemented well with players acting appropriately in the necessary situations. Basically this was the year it became a completely sim game. Still flawed in some areas sure but it was clear that was the intention going in.

Really there was one thing above all others that had me enjoying the game far more than I would have otherwise. The stadium atmosphere was represented better than any other sports game has been able to offer. The three levels (regular season, playoffs, and NBA Finals) are differentiated well and provide unique feels. I don’t think I realized just how much the atmosphere can mean to the overall experience until Live 10. It totally changed my perspective on what is most important to providing an emotional connection and experience in a sports game.

In addition to the crowd atmosphere was the addition of the player rituals, stadium specific sounds and a wide selection of uniform options. Vince Carter getting booed every time he touches the ball in Toronto is just awesome. Touches like those showed a dedication to replicate the NBA experience more so than Live has done in the past.

Dynamic Season was an interesting concept and a way to meet the desire of many to play along with the events of the current season. This was another way to utilize the excellent Synergy data that is downloaded on a daily basis. Issues at the start though with stats not syncing up and displaying properly and the daunting thought that I’d still be playing in mid-2010 just to complete the one season ultimately led me to drop it. I would be really curious to find out data on how many Dynamic Seasons are active especially into next year. At the very least the mode provides another avenue of longevity.

NBA Live continued to excel in online play with smooth and consistent performance in all the game modes. Adidas Live Run was the new spin-off from Online Team Play which added another unique mode to online.

On paper it made a lot of sense to offer pick-up style games. Everyone gets to control a skilled player and the gameplay was much more free-flowing with the removal of fouls. I did miss some of the atmosphere of the crowd though. The dominance of certain players (Yao Ming) and the flaw that allowed certain types of three point attempts to be nearly automatic were troublesome. It was also difficult to really coordinate to have everyone on for full teams at the same time. Still when playing the games it was largely a fun experience. Full thoughts on Live Run can be found here.

While EA was quick to provide a first patch that corrected some of the initial issues with the game it also caused one that resulted in goaltending scores not counting into the displayed scores. This was fixed by a second patch but was a black eye for the amount of time it was out there. There have also been questions as to the effectiveness of changes that were meant to curb exploits with certain types of three point shots. On the other end of the spectrum the two patches clearly took consumer feedback into consideration which was a positive development.

Despite the active work on the two patches the post-release support and communication has noticeably decreased. The Synergy data for ratings and manual roster updates have been lacking in consistency and made little sense. The sense from this along with the sales data and recent comments by EA regarding profitability of titles has led to Live being viewed as a possible cut down the line.

NBA Live 10 was a game that I enjoyed quite a bit due to the slant towards sim gameplay, solid online play, and especially the unbelievable atmosphere of the games. NBA Live 11 may very well be the make-or-break year for the series. If it doesn’t see a surge in sales its future will be in serious doubt.

#6: NBA Live 10
#7: Madden Arcade
#8: NCAA Football 10
#9: NBA 2K10
#10: Fight Night Round 4
The Worst of 2009

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  • Enzo

    Hmm I think Live was my second favorite game of the year. But I agree with much of the problems you listed out.

  • Enzo

    Hmm I think Live was my second favorite game of the year. But I agree with much of the problems you listed out.

  • pastaEApadre

    LMFAO

    Sell out.

    It does make me laugh how some people still don't know that EA pays you.

  • pastaEApadre

    LMFAO

    Sell out.

    It does make me laugh how some people still don't know that EA pays you.

  • laker

    good write-up. the game was really fun but has many ways it can get better. i dont think its crazy to say it has more potential than 2K in the future (if it gets the chance to show it)

  • laker

    good write-up. the game was really fun but has many ways it can get better. i dont think its crazy to say it has more potential than 2K in the future (if it gets the chance to show it)

  • Mwinn

    It's an opinion why do people like you get so mad when someone is posting their opinion on a game it doesn't make sense. Don't come to the website if you are going to make unintelligent comments like this.

  • Mwinn

    It's an opinion why do people like you get so mad when someone is posting their opinion on a game it doesn't make sense. Don't come to the website if you are going to make unintelligent comments like this.

  • Mwinn

    It's an opinion why do people like you get so mad when someone is posting their opinion on a game it doesn't make sense. Don't come to the website if you are going to make unintelligent comments like this.

  • Jeff

    Hey dumbass, EA makes most of the sports games each year. So there really is no other game. What the hell do you want him to do? EA makes like all of the sport games.

  • Jeff

    Hey dumbass, EA makes most of the sports games each year. So there really is no other game. What the hell do you want him to do? EA makes like all of the sport games.

  • Jeff

    Hey dumbass, EA makes most of the sports games each year. So there really is no other game. What the hell do you want him to do? EA makes like all of the sport games.

  • Percy

    I was actually a 2K fan but because of the broken leagues and terrible online play all around myself and some friends switched to Live. Took a while to get used to but we will probably go with Live again next year.

  • Percy

    I was actually a 2K fan but because of the broken leagues and terrible online play all around myself and some friends switched to Live. Took a while to get used to but we will probably go with Live again next year.

  • Percy

    I was actually a 2K fan but because of the broken leagues and terrible online play all around myself and some friends switched to Live. Took a while to get used to but we will probably go with Live again next year.

  • russianbob

    I thought this game blew

  • russianbob

    I thought this game blew

  • russianbob

    I thought this game blew

  • Jonathon

    a lot of people are complaing but of the 4 basketball games i own over the last two years, this is how i rank them:

    1. NBA 2K9
    2. NBA Live '10
    3. NBA Live '09
    4. NBA 2K10

    and i beg anyone to diagree with me…

    there isn't a game i own that pisses me off more than NBA 2K10 (eliminating MLB 2K9 from the convo, because its so terrible it actually becomes entertaining at times)…the game is frustrating, lacks polish, lacked support for WAY too long, and there are just too many problems with the game that eliminated the fun factor that was felt in 2K9…

  • Jonathon

    a lot of people are complaing but of the 4 basketball games i own over the last two years, this is how i rank them:

    1. NBA 2K9
    2. NBA Live '10
    3. NBA Live '09
    4. NBA 2K10

    and i beg anyone to diagree with me…

    there isn't a game i own that pisses me off more than NBA 2K10 (eliminating MLB 2K9 from the convo, because its so terrible it actually becomes entertaining at times)…the game is frustrating, lacks polish, lacked support for WAY too long, and there are just too many problems with the game that eliminated the fun factor that was felt in 2K9…

  • Jonathon

    a lot of people are complaing but of the 4 basketball games i own over the last two years, this is how i rank them:

    1. NBA 2K9
    2. NBA Live '10
    3. NBA Live '09
    4. NBA 2K10

    and i beg anyone to diagree with me…

    there isn't a game i own that pisses me off more than NBA 2K10 (eliminating MLB 2K9 from the convo, because its so terrible it actually becomes entertaining at times)…the game is frustrating, lacks polish, lacked support for WAY too long, and there are just too many problems with the game that eliminated the fun factor that was felt in 2K9…

  • JJC

    lmao at the mlb 2k9 being so terible it was actually entertaining line…..i felt the same way about that game

  • JJC

    lmao at the mlb 2k9 being so terible it was actually entertaining line…..i felt the same way about that game

  • JJC

    lmao at the mlb 2k9 being so terible it was actually entertaining line…..i felt the same way about that game

  • Pasta2kPadre

    you mad ?

  • Pasta2kPadre

    you mad ?

  • Bryan

    Live is better than 2k

    yay! thanks pastat

  • Bryan

    Live is better than 2k

    yay! thanks pastat

  • Bryan

    Live is better than 2k

    yay! thanks pastat

  • Pasta2kPadre

    you mad ?

  • NOS

    Fair placement. I liked the game a lot actually though probably more than you did.

  • NOS

    Fair placement. I liked the game a lot actually though probably more than you did.

  • NOS

    Fair placement. I liked the game a lot actually though probably more than you did.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cdub326 cdub326

    Gotta be joking.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cdub326 cdub326

    Gotta be joking.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cdub326 cdub326

    Gotta be joking.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1156064606 Hector Serrano

    Didn't expect this game to be at #6. I thought NCAA Football was a better overall game than Live. I do like the improvements EA has been making every year on NBA Live. Still not a game I feel is worth the money but it's getting better.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1156064606 Hector Serrano

    Didn't expect this game to be at #6. I thought NCAA Football was a better overall game than Live. I do like the improvements EA has been making every year on NBA Live. Still not a game I feel is worth the money but it's getting better.

  • Rick

    Live here I guess is fair… but if madden 10 makes it on this list now… I will literally shit my pants! Any game where a punter can play tackle and lock up top DE's then it's not playable!!

  • Rick

    Live here I guess is fair… but if madden 10 makes it on this list now… I will literally shit my pants! Any game where a punter can play tackle and lock up top DE's then it's not playable!!

  • Rick

    Live here I guess is fair… but if madden 10 makes it on this list now… I will literally shit my pants! Any game where a punter can play tackle and lock up top DE's then it's not playable!!

  • Mar

    YUP U AIN'T NEVER LIE PASTA……NBA 2K9.5 WAS ASS THIS YEAR HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BOUNCE BACK WIT 2K11

  • Mar

    YUP U AIN'T NEVER LIE PASTA……NBA 2K9.5 WAS ASS THIS YEAR HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BOUNCE BACK WIT 2K11

  • Mar

    YUP U AIN'T NEVER LIE PASTA……NBA 2K9.5 WAS ASS THIS YEAR HOPEFULLY THEY WILL BOUNCE BACK WIT 2K11

  • NELL86

    Where are total sales numbers for this game? I think NBA Live will be no more after Live 11. How is EA gonna covert the die-hard NBA 2k fans that actually increased 2k10's sales this year? Also doesnt 2k own the license to the D-league? Live fans have been asking for this for years? It doesnt look good for Live next year.

  • NELL86

    Where are total sales numbers for this game? I think NBA Live will be no more after Live 11. How is EA gonna covert the die-hard NBA 2k fans that actually increased 2k10's sales this year? Also doesnt 2k own the license to the D-league? Live fans have been asking for this for years? It doesnt look good for Live next year.

  • NELL86

    Where are total sales numbers for this game? I think NBA Live will be no more after Live 11. How is EA gonna covert the die-hard NBA 2k fans that actually increased 2k10's sales this year? Also doesnt 2k own the license to the D-league? Live fans have been asking for this for years? It doesnt look good for Live next year.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/4YM3R1C 4YM3R1C

    NBA Live isn't even a TOP 20…
    I still don't get it Pasta. Do you think we will rush to stores to buy our own copy of that underachieving game, just because you praise that game any time you can ?
    I enjoy reading your website, but that NBA Live propaganda (I don't call it an EA Sports propaganda) is really annoying.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/4YM3R1C 4YM3R1C

    NBA Live isn't even a TOP 20…
    I still don't get it Pasta. Do you think we will rush to stores to buy our own copy of that underachieving game, just because you praise that game any time you can ?
    I enjoy reading your website, but that NBA Live propaganda (I don't call it an EA Sports propaganda) is really annoying.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/4YM3R1C 4YM3R1C

    NBA Live isn't even a TOP 20…
    I still don't get it Pasta. Do you think we will rush to stores to buy our own copy of that underachieving game, just because you praise that game any time you can ?
    I enjoy reading your website, but that NBA Live propaganda (I don't call it an EA Sports propaganda) is really annoying.

  • cheetawoods

    if you weren't so blinded by the crap 2k spews at you and actually played live 10, you would know that live is the more polished game this year. I have played both, you obviously haven't. worthless 2k fanboy

  • cheetawoods

    if you weren't so blinded by the crap 2k spews at you and actually played live 10, you would know that live is the more polished game this year. I have played both, you obviously haven't. worthless 2k fanboy

  • cheetawoods

    if you weren't so blinded by the crap 2k spews at you and actually played live 10, you would know that live is the more polished game this year. I have played both, you obviously haven't. worthless 2k fanboy

  • OOO___OOO

    This is a great game. I played both this and 2K and liked Live better. A lot of people did actually. Obviously there are more fans of 2K out there but that doesnt mean it is better in every way. Both games did things well and some poorly. The things Live did well are more important to me.

  • OOO___OOO

    This is a great game. I played both this and 2K and liked Live better. A lot of people did actually. Obviously there are more fans of 2K out there but that doesnt mean it is better in every way. Both games did things well and some poorly. The things Live did well are more important to me.

  • OOO___OOO

    This is a great game. I played both this and 2K and liked Live better. A lot of people did actually. Obviously there are more fans of 2K out there but that doesnt mean it is better in every way. Both games did things well and some poorly. The things Live did well are more important to me.

  • xX L Boogie Xx

    You fanboys are funny, I dont care if your a 2K or EA fanboy its all hilarious. Almost as funny as the PS3 and 360 fanboys. You guys have to clear your mind of biases when playing these games. Yea 2k made the better game last year but that doesnt make it the best this year. now im not saying I am pro LIVE becasue i didnt think Live nor 2K warranted a purchase this year but you cant form an opinion on something without having tried both games and tried them both while holding back your bias.

  • xX L Boogie Xx

    You fanboys are funny, I dont care if your a 2K or EA fanboy its all hilarious. Almost as funny as the PS3 and 360 fanboys. You guys have to clear your mind of biases when playing these games. Yea 2k made the better game last year but that doesnt make it the best this year. now im not saying I am pro LIVE becasue i didnt think Live nor 2K warranted a purchase this year but you cant form an opinion on something without having tried both games and tried them both while holding back your bias.

  • xX L Boogie Xx

    You fanboys are funny, I dont care if your a 2K or EA fanboy its all hilarious. Almost as funny as the PS3 and 360 fanboys. You guys have to clear your mind of biases when playing these games. Yea 2k made the better game last year but that doesnt make it the best this year. now im not saying I am pro LIVE becasue i didnt think Live nor 2K warranted a purchase this year but you cant form an opinion on something without having tried both games and tried them both while holding back your bias.

  • NoFro904

    U Think live is better than 2k10 and FNR4
    AND u think NFL ARCADE is better than 2k10 and FNR4 hahahahahaha i dont even know what to say

  • NoFro904

    U Think live is better than 2k10 and FNR4
    AND u think NFL ARCADE is better than 2k10 and FNR4 hahahahahaha i dont even know what to say

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/AfroMANIA NoFro904 (Theron)

    U Think live is better than 2k10 and FNR4
    AND u think NFL ARCADE is better than 2k10 and FNR4 hahahahahaha i dont even know what to say

  • NoFro904

    uh Live has no future
    sales dont lie

  • NoFro904

    uh Live has no future
    sales dont lie

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/AfroMANIA NoFro904 (Theron)

    uh Live has no future
    sales dont lie

  • johnshaft23

    I liked live 10 gameplay even with the flaws……., but the thing that got to me was the dynasty. I'm a dynasty guy and live 10 did not do a good job at it at all this year.
    - sim stats were ridiculous like: 57-70 or 64-66 a lot of the times.
    - only 82 games dynasty which with the sim stats being messed up gave you no real chane to develope guys you want
    -the dynasty academy will not allow you to improve outside shooting on none of the drills.
    - rookies coming in all look goofy and the same and are not editable
    - a lot of bench players who are currently in the nba do not have their own faces and shots
    - too little signature movements in the game overall
    - trading is purely based on over. rating and not on the direction a team wants to go. you will never get salary dumps in live 10 form cpu teams, but they offer you some of the dumbest trades imaginable.

    i switched back to 2k9 association with current downloaded roters last week. 2k10 is shitty too so i wont be getting thatone.

  • johnshaft23

    I liked live 10 gameplay even with the flaws……., but the thing that got to me was the dynasty. I'm a dynasty guy and live 10 did not do a good job at it at all this year.
    - sim stats were ridiculous like: 57-70 or 64-66 a lot of the times.
    - only 82 games dynasty which with the sim stats being messed up gave you no real chane to develope guys you want
    -the dynasty academy will not allow you to improve outside shooting on none of the drills.
    - rookies coming in all look goofy and the same and are not editable
    - a lot of bench players who are currently in the nba do not have their own faces and shots
    - too little signature movements in the game overall
    - trading is purely based on over. rating and not on the direction a team wants to go. you will never get salary dumps in live 10 form cpu teams, but they offer you some of the dumbest trades imaginable.

    i switched back to 2k9 association with current downloaded roters last week. 2k10 is shitty too so i wont be getting thatone.

  • johnshaft23

    I liked live 10 gameplay even with the flaws……., but the thing that got to me was the dynasty. I'm a dynasty guy and live 10 did not do a good job at it at all this year.
    - sim stats were ridiculous like: 57-70 or 64-66 a lot of the times.
    - only 82 games dynasty which with the sim stats being messed up gave you no real chane to develope guys you want
    -the dynasty academy will not allow you to improve outside shooting on none of the drills.
    - rookies coming in all look goofy and the same and are not editable
    - a lot of bench players who are currently in the nba do not have their own faces and shots
    - too little signature movements in the game overall
    - trading is purely based on over. rating and not on the direction a team wants to go. you will never get salary dumps in live 10 form cpu teams, but they offer you some of the dumbest trades imaginable.

    i switched back to 2k9 association with current downloaded roters last week. 2k10 is shitty too so i wont be getting thatone.

  • NoFro904

    Go play ur NBA Live at your local Chuck E Cheese then. I think they have it next to the
    TMNT ARCADE game

  • NoFro904

    Go play ur NBA Live at your local Chuck E Cheese then. I think they have it next to the
    TMNT ARCADE game

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/AfroMANIA NoFro904 (Theron)

    Go play ur NBA Live at your local Chuck E Cheese then. I think they have it next to the
    TMNT ARCADE game

  • NoFro904

    if There is more 2k fans… what does that tell you??

  • NoFro904

    if There is more 2k fans… what does that tell you??

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/AfroMANIA NoFro904 (Theron)

    if There is more 2k fans… what does that tell you??

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OptimusP76 OptimusP76

    Hey my dude in live on dynasty you need to put the mins up man thats what a good simulation should be anyway and by the looks of things or by what you said you have not done that my friend so do your homework prime out

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OptimusP76 OptimusP76

    Hey my dude in live on dynasty you need to put the mins up man thats what a good simulation should be anyway and by the looks of things or by what you said you have not done that my friend so do your homework prime out

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/OptimusP76 OptimusP76

    Hey my dude in live on dynasty you need to put the mins up man thats what a good simulation should be anyway and by the looks of things or by what you said you have not done that my friend so do your homework prime out

  • swizzy

    DiS SUM BULL ISH

    LiVE SHOOD B N DAT #1 SPOT

    MY XMASS iZ RUiND

    i TiP MY 40 4 DiS 1

    HOLLA LATE

  • swizzy

    DiS SUM BULL ISH

    LiVE SHOOD B N DAT #1 SPOT

    MY XMASS iZ RUiND

    i TiP MY 40 4 DiS 1

    HOLLA LATE

  • swizzy

    DiS SUM BULL ISH

    LiVE SHOOD B N DAT #1 SPOT

    MY XMASS iZ RUiND

    i TiP MY 40 4 DiS 1

    HOLLA LATE

  • AAA

    Merry Christmas!
    Dashing through the snow
    In my shitty Ford Escape
    oh look some crime scene tape
    And Neg-A-ros everywhere I go
    trying to sell some blow
    in there dodge neon yo
    Oh, silly Neg-A-ro's

    Oh, Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

    ——-OH!
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

    There's Neg-A-ro's in the streets
    and they got their heat
    someone's going to get robbed and beat
    Wow I dont feel safe on Wilson St
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    there's Neg-A-ro's

    Oh, Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah Mad Neg-A-ro's

    ——-OH!
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

  • AAA

    Merry Christmas!
    Dashing through the snow
    In my shitty Ford Escape
    oh look some crime scene tape
    And Neg-A-ros everywhere I go
    trying to sell some blow
    in there dodge neon yo
    Oh, silly Neg-A-ro's

    Oh, Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

    ——-OH!
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

    There's Neg-A-ro's in the streets
    and they got their heat
    someone's going to get robbed and beat
    Wow I dont feel safe on Wilson St
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    there's Neg-A-ro's

    Oh, Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah Mad Neg-A-ro's

    ——-OH!
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

  • AAA

    Merry Christmas!
    Dashing through the snow
    In my shitty Ford Escape
    oh look some crime scene tape
    And Neg-A-ros everywhere I go
    trying to sell some blow
    in there dodge neon yo
    Oh, silly Neg-A-ro's

    Oh, Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

    ——-OH!
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

    There's Neg-A-ro's in the streets
    and they got their heat
    someone's going to get robbed and beat
    Wow I dont feel safe on Wilson St
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    there's Neg-A-ro's

    Oh, Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah Mad Neg-A-ro's

    ——-OH!
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    Everywhere I go
    Neg-A-ro's Neg-A-ro's
    WHoah there's Mad Neg-A-ro's

  • lonnie

    oh geez ,,here we go again

  • lonnie

    oh geez ,,here we go again

  • lonnie

    oh geez ,,here we go again

  • t. daley

    The only reason why Live 10 would lose ground financially is due to the overwhelming stupidity of the 2kfanboy. They are so brainwashed into thinking that 2k basketball is better even when they haven’t had a decent basketball game in 2 years.

    Lets face it. 2kfanboy is so stupid that they would rather purchase a game that doesn’t even work online than to purchase the much improved Live 10. Like the saying goes, “There is just no accounting for poor taste.”

    When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug.

  • t. daley

    The only reason why Live 10 would lose ground financially is due to the overwhelming stupidity of the 2kfanboy. They are so brainwashed into thinking that 2k basketball is better even when they haven’t had a decent basketball game in 2 years.

    Lets face it. 2kfanboy is so stupid that they would rather purchase a game that doesn’t even work online than to purchase the much improved Live 10. Like the saying goes, “There is just no accounting for poor taste.”

    When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug.

  • t. daley

    The only reason why Live 10 would lose ground financially is due to the overwhelming stupidity of the 2kfanboy. They are so brainwashed into thinking that 2k basketball is better even when they haven’t had a decent basketball game in 2 years.

    Lets face it. 2kfanboy is so stupid that they would rather purchase a game that doesn’t even work online than to purchase the much improved Live 10. Like the saying goes, “There is just no accounting for poor taste.”

    When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug.

  • Quilly

    Im So High I Can Bite A Star

  • Quilly

    Im So High I Can Bite A Star

  • t. daley

    I disagree with you whole heartedly. You cant recycle the same game year in and year out and claim to be the best. In fact with each passing year 2k basketball has gotten progressively WORSE. The Last 2k basketball game that was decent was 2k8, but even that was just a rehash of 2k7. Only the live series has made a monumental leap forward with each passing year with both Live 09 and Live 10 showing the greatest leap forward. It is clear that Live is on the move where 2k is just treading water at this point. IMHO Live 10 is far better over all than both 2k9 or 2k10. As a matter of fact I haven’t played any basketball game i have owned more than Live 10 and I have owned 2k7, 2k8, Live08, Live 09, Live10.

  • t. daley

    I disagree with you whole heartedly. You cant recycle the same game year in and year out and claim to be the best. In fact with each passing year 2k basketball has gotten progressively WORSE. The Last 2k basketball game that was decent was 2k8, but even that was just a rehash of 2k7. Only the live series has made a monumental leap forward with each passing year with both Live 09 and Live 10 showing the greatest leap forward. It is clear that Live is on the move where 2k is just treading water at this point. IMHO Live 10 is far better over all than both 2k9 or 2k10. As a matter of fact I haven’t played any basketball game i have owned more than Live 10 and I have owned 2k7, 2k8, Live08, Live 09, Live10.

  • IM @ YA MOMZZ HOUSE

    i kinda agree wit u but then i don't. i think live was better that 2k this year but i don't think it deserves the #6 spot.

  • IM @ YA MOMZZ HOUSE

    i kinda agree wit u but then i don't. i think live was better that 2k this year but i don't think it deserves the #6 spot.

  • t. daley

    I disagree with you whole heartedly. You cant recycle the same game year in and year out and claim to be the best. In fact with each passing year 2k basketball has gotten progressively WORSE. The Last 2k basketball game that was decent was 2k8, but even that was just a rehash of 2k7. Only the live series has made a monumental leap forward with each passing year with both Live 09 and Live 10 showing the greatest leap forward. It is clear that Live is on the move where 2k is just treading water at this point. IMHO Live 10 is far better over all than both 2k9 or 2k10. As a matter of fact I haven’t played any basketball game i have owned more than Live 10 and I have owned 2k7, 2k8, Live08, Live 09, Live10.

  • IM @ YA MOMZZ HOUSE

    i kinda agree wit u but then i don't. i think live was better that 2k this year but i don't think it deserves the #6 spot.

  • killu4what

    Lol
    If u played live from 04 to 09 what does that make you.
    2k10=best 2k to date
    After the patch of course
    Live is solid though good game

  • killu4what

    Lol
    If u played live from 04 to 09 what does that make you.
    2k10=best 2k to date
    After the patch of course
    Live is solid though good game

  • killu4what

    Lol
    If u played live from 04 to 09 what does that make you.
    2k10=best 2k to date
    After the patch of course
    Live is solid though good game

  • Busty Buffet

    It has more potential because EA is probably going to exist longer than 2k

  • Busty Buffet

    It has more potential because EA is probably going to exist longer than 2k

  • Busty Buffet

    It has more potential because EA is probably going to exist longer than 2k

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JawnMurray JawnMurray

    lol t daley you kill me..

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JawnMurray JawnMurray

    lol t daley you kill me..

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/JawnMurray JawnMurray

    lol t daley you kill me..

  • Keith.

    t. daley, you're an idiot for posting this: "When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug."

    Did you know that EA reported a $1 BILLION DOLLAR LOSS on May 5, 2009?

    http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/46803/EA-Report...

    Did you know that EA announced another LOSS of $391 MILLION on November 9, 2009, which was up from the loss of $310 million a year earlier?

    http://gadgetophilia.com/electronic-arts-posts-2n...

    Did you know EA laid off close to 20% of its work force the same date?

    I don't think EA is going to be buying 2k anytime soon. EA needs to worry about picking up its own pieces, I'd say.

  • Keith.

    t. daley, you're an idiot for posting this: "When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug."

    Did you know that EA reported a $1 BILLION DOLLAR LOSS on May 5, 2009?

    http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/46803/EA-Report...

    Did you know that EA announced another LOSS of $391 MILLION on November 9, 2009, which was up from the loss of $310 million a year earlier?

    http://gadgetophilia.com/electronic-arts-posts-2n...

    Did you know EA laid off close to 20% of its work force the same date?

    I don't think EA is going to be buying 2k anytime soon. EA needs to worry about picking up its own pieces, I'd say.

  • Keith.

    t. daley, you're an idiot for posting this: "When all is said and done, 2k is just a shell of sports franchise, and as each property fails one by one, EA will be there to pick up the pieces. 2k is on life support and its time to pull the plug."

    Did you know that EA reported a $1 BILLION DOLLAR LOSS on May 5, 2009?

    http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/46803/EA-Report...

    Did you know that EA announced another LOSS of $391 MILLION on November 9, 2009, which was up from the loss of $310 million a year earlier?

    http://gadgetophilia.com/electronic-arts-posts-2n...

    Did you know EA laid off close to 20% of its work force the same date?

    I don't think EA is going to be buying 2k anytime soon. EA needs to worry about picking up its own pieces, I'd say.

  • King206

    Your kidding me right pasta? I owned both games and Live is garbage. Sold it after a week of play. 2K10 isn't great and I even barely play that game too but it is better than Live. WTF are you smoking Pasta? How much is EA paying you?

  • King206

    Your kidding me right pasta? I owned both games and Live is garbage. Sold it after a week of play. 2K10 isn't great and I even barely play that game too but it is better than Live. WTF are you smoking Pasta? How much is EA paying you?

  • King206

    Your kidding me right pasta? I owned both games and Live is garbage. Sold it after a week of play. 2K10 isn't great and I even barely play that game too but it is better than Live. WTF are you smoking Pasta? How much is EA paying you?

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/4YM3R1C 4YM3R1C

    See pal, that's the problem. I'm not a fanboy. I'm a sports videogame lover. So I buy what I consider to be the best game. I used to buy Pro Evolution Soccer, but I was so disappointed that I switched back to FiFA.
    Even though we can all agree on the fact that 2k10 is not really different from 2k9 and still has some important issues, Live isn't playing in the same balllpark. Period. I got to borrow the game from a friend and play with it and I really didn't enjoy that experience.
    Merry Xmas blind fanboy !

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/4YM3R1C 4YM3R1C

    See pal, that's the problem. I'm not a fanboy. I'm a sports videogame lover. So I buy what I consider to be the best game. I used to buy Pro Evolution Soccer, but I was so disappointed that I switched back to FiFA.
    Even though we can all agree on the fact that 2k10 is not really different from 2k9 and still has some important issues, Live isn't playing in the same balllpark. Period. I got to borrow the game from a friend and play with it and I really didn't enjoy that experience.
    Merry Xmas blind fanboy !

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/4YM3R1C 4YM3R1C

    See pal, that's the problem. I'm not a fanboy. I'm a sports videogame lover. So I buy what I consider to be the best game. I used to buy Pro Evolution Soccer, but I was so disappointed that I switched back to FiFA.
    Even though we can all agree on the fact that 2k10 is not really different from 2k9 and still has some important issues, Live isn't playing in the same balllpark. Period. I got to borrow the game from a friend and play with it and I really didn't enjoy that experience.
    Merry Xmas blind fanboy !

  • Franklin

    Whats funny about this is you're are no doubt some scared white boy hiding behind your computer, if you dislike blacks so much then go and tell one of them to the're face like a man. I happen to be hispanic and know most of you guys all to well, if you catch one of you in the streets with that same bullshit, its a whole new ballgame. I expect some of your white buddies to reply to this, but then again its always talk with you guys. PEACE!

  • Franklin

    Whats funny about this is you're are no doubt some scared white boy hiding behind your computer, if you dislike blacks so much then go and tell one of them to the're face like a man. I happen to be hispanic and know most of you guys all to well, if you catch one of you in the streets with that same bullshit, its a whole new ballgame. I expect some of your white buddies to reply to this, but then again its always talk with you guys. PEACE!

  • Franklin

    Whats funny about this is you're are no doubt some scared white boy hiding behind your computer, if you dislike blacks so much then go and tell one of them to the're face like a man. I happen to be hispanic and know most of you guys all to well, if you catch one of you in the streets with that same bullshit, its a whole new ballgame. I expect some of your white buddies to reply to this, but then again its always talk with you guys. PEACE!

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/BeasleyFan Beasley30

    LIVE IS BULLSHIT

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/BeasleyFan Beasley30

    LIVE IS BULLSHIT

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/BeasleyFan Beasley30

    LIVE IS BULLSHIT

  • Young Weezy

    Me 2, he talks on and on about fanboy this and fanboy that, but in reality he sounds pissed that not everyone is a EA fanboy(like himself). The guy practically has a saddle to pastas nuts that he just keeps riding and riding. I say let him keep talking while nba 2k keeps selling, after all numbers don't lie, cause when it comes to bball, no one does it better. Of course EA is supposed to be the king of games, THE'VE BEEN DOING IT LONGER, so for 2k to even compete with games like live or madden(and yes they had EA nervous with nfl 2k) is amazing. If your'e running damn near 90% of the gaming industry you're suppose to destroy the competition(not happening in basketball), and in some cases(madden), THERE IS NO COMPETITION, If you can prove to me that live is outselling 2k then I will keep quiet. Better yet prove to me that live is rated higher in five or more top tier websites. In this case, I'll be waiting a long time……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

  • Young Weezy

    Me 2, he talks on and on about fanboy this and fanboy that, but in reality he sounds pissed that not everyone is a EA fanboy(like himself). The guy practically has a saddle to pastas nuts that he just keeps riding and riding. I say let him keep talking while nba 2k keeps selling, after all numbers don't lie, cause when it comes to bball, no one does it better. Of course EA is supposed to be the king of games, THE'VE BEEN DOING IT LONGER, so for 2k to even compete with games like live or madden(and yes they had EA nervous with nfl 2k) is amazing. If your'e running damn near 90% of the gaming industry you're suppose to destroy the competition(not happening in basketball), and in some cases(madden), THERE IS NO COMPETITION, If you can prove to me that live is outselling 2k then I will keep quiet. Better yet prove to me that live is rated higher in five or more top tier websites. In this case, I'll be waiting a long time……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

  • Young Weezy

    Me 2, he talks on and on about fanboy this and fanboy that, but in reality he sounds pissed that not everyone is a EA fanboy(like himself). The guy practically has a saddle to pastas nuts that he just keeps riding and riding. I say let him keep talking while nba 2k keeps selling, after all numbers don't lie, cause when it comes to bball, no one does it better. Of course EA is supposed to be the king of games, THE'VE BEEN DOING IT LONGER, so for 2k to even compete with games like live or madden(and yes they had EA nervous with nfl 2k) is amazing. If your'e running damn near 90% of the gaming industry you're suppose to destroy the competition(not happening in basketball), and in some cases(madden), THERE IS NO COMPETITION, If you can prove to me that live is outselling 2k then I will keep quiet. Better yet prove to me that live is rated higher in five or more top tier websites. In this case, I'll be waiting a long time……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

  • Young Weezy

    Me 2, he talks on and on about fanboy this and fanboy that, but in reality he sounds pissed that not everyone is a EA fanboy(like himself). The guy practically has a saddle to pastas nuts that he just keeps riding and riding. I say let him keep talking while nba 2k keeps selling, after all numbers don't lie, cause when it comes to bball, no one does it better. Of course EA is supposed to be the king of games, THE'VE BEEN DOING IT LONGER, so for 2k to even compete with games like live or madden(and yes they had EA nervous with nfl 2k) is amazing. If your'e running damn near 90% of the gaming industry you're suppose to destroy the competition(not happening in basketball), and in some cases(madden), THERE IS NO COMPETITION, If you can prove to me that live is outselling 2k then I will keep quiet. Better yet prove to me that live is rated higher in five or more top tier websites. In this case, I'll be waiting a long time……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

  • NoFro904

    i wish i knew what u saw in any LIVE game that made it better than any 2k game.
    2k has way better graphics and gameplay, player models etc.

  • NoFro904

    i wish i knew what u saw in any LIVE game that made it better than any 2k game.
    2k has way better graphics and gameplay, player models etc.

  • NoFro904

    i wish i knew what u saw in any LIVE game that made it better than any 2k game.
    2k has way better graphics and gameplay, player models etc.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/AfroMANIA NoFro904 (Theron)

    i wish i knew what u saw in any LIVE game that made it better than any 2k game.
    2k has way better graphics and gameplay, player models etc.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/gantous gantous

    i like how he says its hard to play 1 on 1 defense. When in reality its impossible to play any kind of defense in this bullshit game.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/gantous gantous

    i like how he says its hard to play 1 on 1 defense. When in reality its impossible to play any kind of defense in this bullshit game.

  • Live since Nine Five

    I still love NBA Live but only when playing with someone who is committed to sim basketball experience. Here are some of my thought on the game overall

    The defensive mechanics need some serious attention because user vs. user play always heavily favors the offense in most all aspects. The cpu seems to be a bit too powerful almost all the time. They grab most every rebound and rarely get caught out of position defensively. Players should value stopping the ball on defense more than getting into the correct sets, often when the cpu is in transition and I have a man back he will not guard the offensive player attacking the rim if he is not his assignment basically ignoring him and giving up a bucket.

    Fatiuge should tie into shooting freuency as well to help curb 3 point spamming. I lost online to Cleveland with Mo Williams shooting close to 60 3 pointers and single handedly outscoring my whole team post patch. Dynasty mode is a non factor now and needs something special from here on out to really make it worthwhile again.

    More later.

  • Live since Nine Five

    I still love NBA Live but only when playing with someone who is committed to sim basketball experience. Here are some of my thought on the game overall

    The defensive mechanics need some serious attention because user vs. user play always heavily favors the offense in most all aspects. The cpu seems to be a bit too powerful almost all the time. They grab most every rebound and rarely get caught out of position defensively. Players should value stopping the ball on defense more than getting into the correct sets, often when the cpu is in transition and I have a man back he will not guard the offensive player attacking the rim if he is not his assignment basically ignoring him and giving up a bucket.

    Fatiuge should tie into shooting freuency as well to help curb 3 point spamming. I lost online to Cleveland with Mo Williams shooting close to 60 3 pointers and single handedly outscoring my whole team post patch. Dynasty mode is a non factor now and needs something special from here on out to really make it worthwhile again.

    More later.

  • Live since Nine Five

    I still love NBA Live but only when playing with someone who is committed to sim basketball experience. Here are some of my thought on the game overall

    The defensive mechanics need some serious attention because user vs. user play always heavily favors the offense in most all aspects. The cpu seems to be a bit too powerful almost all the time. They grab most every rebound and rarely get caught out of position defensively. Players should value stopping the ball on defense more than getting into the correct sets, often when the cpu is in transition and I have a man back he will not guard the offensive player attacking the rim if he is not his assignment basically ignoring him and giving up a bucket.

    Fatiuge should tie into shooting freuency as well to help curb 3 point spamming. I lost online to Cleveland with Mo Williams shooting close to 60 3 pointers and single handedly outscoring my whole team post patch. Dynasty mode is a non factor now and needs something special from here on out to really make it worthwhile again.

    More later.

  • Live since Nine Five

    I still love NBA Live but only when playing with someone who is committed to sim basketball experience. Here are some of my thought on the game overall

    The defensive mechanics need some serious attention because user vs. user play always heavily favors the offense in most all aspects. The cpu seems to be a bit too powerful almost all the time. They grab most every rebound and rarely get caught out of position defensively. Players should value stopping the ball on defense more than getting into the correct sets, often when the cpu is in transition and I have a man back he will not guard the offensive player attacking the rim if he is not his assignment basically ignoring him and giving up a bucket.

    Fatiuge should tie into shooting freuency as well to help curb 3 point spamming. I lost online to Cleveland with Mo Williams shooting close to 60 3 pointers and single handedly outscoring my whole team post patch. Dynasty mode is a non factor now and needs something special from here on out to really make it worthwhile again.

    More later.

  • Sean

    I played live for 8 years unitl I played 2k9 and just felt like it played better than live. Especially on the 360. It has its online problems and they DO NEED to be addressed, but the single player game mode plays just fine for my taste. As far as I am concerned, I was done with live when I played 2k9. Bough 2k10 for 25 bucks on Black Friday and am happy with it….despite it flaws.

  • Sean

    I played live for 8 years unitl I played 2k9 and just felt like it played better than live. Especially on the 360. It has its online problems and they DO NEED to be addressed, but the single player game mode plays just fine for my taste. As far as I am concerned, I was done with live when I played 2k9. Bough 2k10 for 25 bucks on Black Friday and am happy with it….despite it flaws.

  • Sean

    Can't we all just get along….

  • Sean

    Can't we all just get along….

  • Sean

    Can't we all just get along….

  • Sean

    Can't we all just get along….

  • nphillyk

    Let's not forget that the this country was once "live nation." lol Now it's all about 2k. Why you ask? It's because 2K came in as the new kid on the block in 1999 and challenged the incumbent basketball champion. It took years and years of hard work but they did it. First being recognized for it's superior and more authentic gameplay, and then finally just flat out outselling what had been the top selling basketball franchise. I say all of this to say that there is a very very good reason that 2K is so popular and Live has lost favor. And that reason is simply because 2K delivers a more authentic basketball experience.

  • nphillyk

    Let's not forget that the this country was once "live nation." lol Now it's all about 2k. Why you ask? It's because 2K came in as the new kid on the block in 1999 and challenged the incumbent basketball champion. It took years and years of hard work but they did it. First being recognized for it's superior and more authentic gameplay, and then finally just flat out outselling what had been the top selling basketball franchise. I say all of this to say that there is a very very good reason that 2K is so popular and Live has lost favor. And that reason is simply because 2K delivers a more authentic basketball experience.

  • nphillyk

    Let's not forget that the this country was once "live nation." lol Now it's all about 2k. Why you ask? It's because 2K came in as the new kid on the block in 1999 and challenged the incumbent basketball champion. It took years and years of hard work but they did it. First being recognized for it's superior and more authentic gameplay, and then finally just flat out outselling what had been the top selling basketball franchise. I say all of this to say that there is a very very good reason that 2K is so popular and Live has lost favor. And that reason is simply because 2K delivers a more authentic basketball experience.

  • nphillyk

    Let's not forget that the this country was once "live nation." lol Now it's all about 2k. Why you ask? It's because 2K came in as the new kid on the block in 1999 and challenged the incumbent basketball champion. It took years and years of hard work but they did it. First being recognized for it's superior and more authentic gameplay, and then finally just flat out outselling what had been the top selling basketball franchise. I say all of this to say that there is a very very good reason that 2K is so popular and Live has lost favor. And that reason is simply because 2K delivers a more authentic basketball experience.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    Pasta, you forgot to mention the commentary for me. I really enjoyed playing this game and the sliders, but the commentary is so repetitive and limited that I can't really play this game anymore. One more "jelly bean bryant" comment or "now even Kobe Bryant is a believer" and I'm really going to chuck this game out the window, lol. The commentary is what absolutely murders this game for me, otherwise I'm very happy with it….

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    Pasta, you forgot to mention the commentary for me. I really enjoyed playing this game and the sliders, but the commentary is so repetitive and limited that I can't really play this game anymore. One more "jelly bean bryant" comment or "now even Kobe Bryant is a believer" and I'm really going to chuck this game out the window, lol. The commentary is what absolutely murders this game for me, otherwise I'm very happy with it….

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    Pasta, you forgot to mention the commentary for me. I really enjoyed playing this game and the sliders, but the commentary is so repetitive and limited that I can't really play this game anymore. One more "jelly bean bryant" comment or "now even Kobe Bryant is a believer" and I'm really going to chuck this game out the window, lol. The commentary is what absolutely murders this game for me, otherwise I'm very happy with it….

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/cabrillo24 cabrillo24

    Pasta, you forgot to mention the commentary for me. I really enjoyed playing this game and the sliders, but the commentary is so repetitive and limited that I can't really play this game anymore. One more "jelly bean bryant" comment or "now even Kobe Bryant is a believer" and I'm really going to chuck this game out the window, lol. The commentary is what absolutely murders this game for me, otherwise I'm very happy with it….

  • AAA

    A spic named Franklin that wierd

  • AAA

    A spic named Franklin that wierd

  • AAA

    A spic named Franklin that wierd

  • AAA

    A spic named Franklin that wierd

  • Daville

    NBA 2k10 has a few flaws but imo it's the best off-line basketballball game in awhile and it still has one patch left. Live 10 has made a some great strides with adidas live run but 2k's franchise mode with the D-League is still superior. And add the fact that 2k has a Superstar mode with the D-League improves its stock. People's problem with 2k10 is the akward feel, on-line problems, and iso-motion & shot stick (which I have no problem with because it takes practice to control move and shot. There are more dribbles and shots than people know to use). Which are a big problem to most but they still have one patch left.

  • Daville

    NBA 2k10 has a few flaws but imo it's the best off-line basketballball game in awhile and it still has one patch left. Live 10 has made a some great strides with adidas live run but 2k's franchise mode with the D-League is still superior. And add the fact that 2k has a Superstar mode with the D-League improves its stock. People's problem with 2k10 is the akward feel, on-line problems, and iso-motion & shot stick (which I have no problem with because it takes practice to control move and shot. There are more dribbles and shots than people know to use). Which are a big problem to most but they still have one patch left.

  • Daville

    NBA 2k10 has a few flaws but imo it's the best off-line basketballball game in awhile and it still has one patch left. Live 10 has made a some great strides with adidas live run but 2k's franchise mode with the D-League is still superior. And add the fact that 2k has a Superstar mode with the D-League improves its stock. People's problem with 2k10 is the akward feel, on-line problems, and iso-motion & shot stick (which I have no problem with because it takes practice to control move and shot. There are more dribbles and shots than people know to use). Which are a big problem to most but they still have one patch left.

  • Daville

    NBA 2k10 has a few flaws but imo it's the best off-line basketballball game in awhile and it still has one patch left. Live 10 has made a some great strides with adidas live run but 2k's franchise mode with the D-League is still superior. And add the fact that 2k has a Superstar mode with the D-League improves its stock. People's problem with 2k10 is the akward feel, on-line problems, and iso-motion & shot stick (which I have no problem with because it takes practice to control move and shot. There are more dribbles and shots than people know to use). Which are a big problem to most but they still have one patch left.

  • CLEfan

    they pay him surely and give him blow jobs on the side.

  • CLEfan

    they pay him surely and give him blow jobs on the side.

  • CLEfan

    they pay him surely and give him blow jobs on the side.

  • CLEfan

    they pay him surely and give him blow jobs on the side.

  • objective reader

    wait…" In terms of quality NBA Live 10 was good enough that many took notice but in terms of sales it lost even more ground." " Just getting bumped down low meant losing control of the ball. It was nearly impossible to drive the lane and get a shot off without being drawn into a contact animation." ."Attempting penetration basically felt like wasting a possession and that severely altered how I could play the game." I also found it really difficult to play one-on-one defense. There was no mechanic to really stabilize position so any movement in one direction resulted in giving the opposing player an opening. Damn so what was good about this game? the stadium atmosphere? are u kidding me?…

  • objective reader

    wait…" In terms of quality NBA Live 10 was good enough that many took notice but in terms of sales it lost even more ground." " Just getting bumped down low meant losing control of the ball. It was nearly impossible to drive the lane and get a shot off without being drawn into a contact animation." ."Attempting penetration basically felt like wasting a possession and that severely altered how I could play the game." I also found it really difficult to play one-on-one defense. There was no mechanic to really stabilize position so any movement in one direction resulted in giving the opposing player an opening. Damn so what was good about this game? the stadium atmosphere? are u kidding me?…

  • objective reader

    wait…" In terms of quality NBA Live 10 was good enough that many took notice but in terms of sales it lost even more ground." " Just getting bumped down low meant losing control of the ball. It was nearly impossible to drive the lane and get a shot off without being drawn into a contact animation." ."Attempting penetration basically felt like wasting a possession and that severely altered how I could play the game." I also found it really difficult to play one-on-one defense. There was no mechanic to really stabilize position so any movement in one direction resulted in giving the opposing player an opening. Damn so what was good about this game? the stadium atmosphere? are u kidding me?…

  • objective reader

    wait…" In terms of quality NBA Live 10 was good enough that many took notice but in terms of sales it lost even more ground." " Just getting bumped down low meant losing control of the ball. It was nearly impossible to drive the lane and get a shot off without being drawn into a contact animation." ."Attempting penetration basically felt like wasting a possession and that severely altered how I could play the game." I also found it really difficult to play one-on-one defense. There was no mechanic to really stabilize position so any movement in one direction resulted in giving the opposing player an opening. Damn so what was good about this game? the stadium atmosphere? are u kidding me?…

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  • CLEfan

    They pay him surely and give him blow jobs on the side. NBA is a slap in the face to the game of basketball. This game has NO DEFENSE involved, and represents the NBA terribly. They say you win championships with defense, and Im sorry but this is not the champion of the basketball sim games. EA, get some friggin defense in your game, untill then i will continue to play 2k, and not even give live a chance. Ive played this at my friends, and he literally takes the dumbest shots and they happen to go in, there is no logic displayed in this game, you can shoot from anywhere within a 30ft radius of the hoop and it will most likely go in, no matter how good you guard the guy. Its as if its all based on percentages.

    Mo Williams might miss 2 jumpshots, but since his shooting ratings are good, he can come down the court and just launch and make the next 3 no matter how well guared, it makes no sense. Atleast if your going to make a shot with a guy all over you, it should be in a fluid motion after a nice dribble move or something! This is what 2k does well, and you can actually play defense. One thing i will say about 2k tho is the alley oops look rediculous and the CPU does them way too much. EA get a clue your product sucks DI*K

  • CLEfan

    They pay him surely and give him blow jobs on the side. NBA is a slap in the face to the game of basketball. This game has NO DEFENSE involved, and represents the NBA terribly. They say you win championships with defense, and Im sorry but this is not the champion of the basketball sim games. EA, get some friggin defense in your game, untill then i will continue to play 2k, and not even give live a chance. Ive played this at my friends, and he literally takes the dumbest shots and they happen to go in, there is no logic displayed in this game, you can shoot from anywhere within a 30ft radius of the hoop and it will most likely go in, no matter how good you guard the guy. Its as if its all based on percentages.

    Mo Williams might miss 2 jumpshots, but since his shooting ratings are good, he can come down the court and just launch and make the next 3 no matter how well guared, it makes no sense. Atleast if your going to make a shot with a guy all over you, it should be in a fluid motion after a nice dribble move or something! This is what 2k does well, and you can actually play defense. One thing i will say about 2k tho is the alley oops look rediculous and the CPU does them way too much. EA get a clue your product sucks DI*K

  • CLEfan

    They pay him surely and give him blow jobs on the side. NBA is a slap in the face to the game of basketball. This game has NO DEFENSE involved, and represents the NBA terribly. They say you win championships with defense, and Im sorry but this is not the champion of the basketball sim games. EA, get some friggin defense in your game, untill then i will continue to play 2k, and not even give live a chance. Ive played this at my friends, and he literally takes the dumbest shots and they happen to go in, there is no logic displayed in this game, you can shoot from anywhere within a 30ft radius of the hoop and it will most likely go in, no matter how good you guard the guy. Its as if its all based on percentages.

    Mo Williams might miss 2 jumpshots, but since his shooting ratings are good, he can come down the court and just launch and make the next 3 no matter how well guared, it makes no sense. Atleast if your going to make a shot with a guy all over you, it should be in a fluid motion after a nice dribble move or something! This is what 2k does well, and you can actually play defense. One thing i will say about 2k tho is the alley oops look rediculous and the CPU does them way too much. EA get a clue your product sucks DI*K

  • CLEfan

    Although i do believe Live will continue to progress and get better, because Mike Wang is with EA now, but this will not be close to 2k untill probably the 2012 or 2013 season. There are improvements in the game, but it is still just terrible. There is no way, and i mean NO WAY! this can be rated higher than 2k i dont care how bad the online is for 2k or if some shit doesnt work, atleast the offline play is an accurate simulation. Live is a disgrace. If i were an NBA player and played Live, i would be like, "what are we retarded or something, we dont know how to play defense?"

    Altough i think pasta is paid by EA, and he probably is, I still enjoy coming to your site because you do a good job of covering the sport gaming news. One thing I ask you is I hope you dont try and ruin the sales of Backbreaker, because Michael Moore is paying you inorder to keep a game like madden alive, which every year improves a little just to make sale pitches to us consumers, when it can be on the level that Backbreaker is going to be. Because i damn well know EA has the money and technology to do so.

  • CLEfan

    Although i do believe Live will continue to progress and get better, because Mike Wang is with EA now, but this will not be close to 2k untill probably the 2012 or 2013 season. There are improvements in the game, but it is still just terrible. There is no way, and i mean NO WAY! this can be rated higher than 2k i dont care how bad the online is for 2k or if some shit doesnt work, atleast the offline play is an accurate simulation. Live is a disgrace. If i were an NBA player and played Live, i would be like, "what are we retarded or something, we dont know how to play defense?"

    Altough i think pasta is paid by EA, and he probably is, I still enjoy coming to your site because you do a good job of covering the sport gaming news. One thing I ask you is I hope you dont try and ruin the sales of Backbreaker, because Michael Moore is paying you inorder to keep a game like madden alive, which every year improves a little just to make sale pitches to us consumers, when it can be on the level that Backbreaker is going to be. Because i damn well know EA has the money and technology to do so.

  • CLEfan

    Although i do believe Live will continue to progress and get better, because Mike Wang is with EA now, but this will not be close to 2k untill probably the 2012 or 2013 season. There are improvements in the game, but it is still just terrible. There is no way, and i mean NO WAY! this can be rated higher than 2k i dont care how bad the online is for 2k or if some shit doesnt work, atleast the offline play is an accurate simulation. Live is a disgrace. If i were an NBA player and played Live, i would be like, "what are we retarded or something, we dont know how to play defense?"

    Altough i think pasta is paid by EA, and he probably is, I still enjoy coming to your site because you do a good job of covering the sport gaming news. One thing I ask you is I hope you dont try and ruin the sales of Backbreaker, because Michael Moore is paying you inorder to keep a game like madden alive, which every year improves a little just to make sale pitches to us consumers, when it can be on the level that Backbreaker is going to be. Because i damn well know EA has the money and technology to do so.

  • CLEfan

    ONe last thing is how pasta raves about the "crowd atmosphere" sorry but 2k has had that shit in its game for the past friggin 3 yrs. That should knock the game down since it is only its first year in the game. With the technology these days that should be a given. Along with the Plastic looking players, and the way defense is represented this game blows. Online play might work but the game sucks, so when the game sucks you cant enjoy the online play. Id rather have an accurate sim basketball game that doesnt work online, then a shit representation that does work. Idk thats just my opinion and im sure many other ppl have the same.

  • CLEfan

    ONe last thing is how pasta raves about the "crowd atmosphere" sorry but 2k has had that shit in its game for the past friggin 3 yrs. That should knock the game down since it is only its first year in the game. With the technology these days that should be a given. Along with the Plastic looking players, and the way defense is represented this game blows. Online play might work but the game sucks, so when the game sucks you cant enjoy the online play. Id rather have an accurate sim basketball game that doesnt work online, then a shit representation that does work. Idk thats just my opinion and im sure many other ppl have the same.

  • CLEfan

    ONe last thing is how pasta raves about the "crowd atmosphere" sorry but 2k has had that shit in its game for the past friggin 3 yrs. That should knock the game down since it is only its first year in the game. With the technology these days that should be a given. Along with the Plastic looking players, and the way defense is represented this game blows. Online play might work but the game sucks, so when the game sucks you cant enjoy the online play. Id rather have an accurate sim basketball game that doesnt work online, then a shit representation that does work. Idk thats just my opinion and im sure many other ppl have the same.

  • CLEfan

    The commentary will come in time, new commentary will be added year by year. For the time being they have to have the commentary very stale.

  • CLEfan

    The commentary will come in time, new commentary will be added year by year. For the time being they have to have the commentary very stale.

  • CLEfan

    The commentary will come in time, new commentary will be added year by year. For the time being they have to have the commentary very stale.

  • CLEfan

    Agreed. 2k takes a lot more skill and time to master, where as the controls r nice in Live, but there are only a select few animations of crossovers and dribble moves which make it very unrealistic. 2k s controls frustrate people. Honestly they really arent that hard tho. The shot stick in my opinion is fantastic especially when your taking it to the hole. You move it in one direction away from the guys and your player finishes at the cup with a nice looking layup. 2k has all the animations that are represented in the real game which makes it the best sim on the market.

  • CLEfan

    Agreed. 2k takes a lot more skill and time to master, where as the controls r nice in Live, but there are only a select few animations of crossovers and dribble moves which make it very unrealistic. 2k s controls frustrate people. Honestly they really arent that hard tho. The shot stick in my opinion is fantastic especially when your taking it to the hole. You move it in one direction away from the guys and your player finishes at the cup with a nice looking layup. 2k has all the animations that are represented in the real game which makes it the best sim on the market.

  • CLEfan

    Agreed. 2k takes a lot more skill and time to master, where as the controls r nice in Live, but there are only a select few animations of crossovers and dribble moves which make it very unrealistic. 2k s controls frustrate people. Honestly they really arent that hard tho. The shot stick in my opinion is fantastic especially when your taking it to the hole. You move it in one direction away from the guys and your player finishes at the cup with a nice looking layup. 2k has all the animations that are represented in the real game which makes it the best sim on the market.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

    Why Pasta why every year you rank this game soo high and it sells soo low, Live 10 sucks, I gave it a try and didnt like it at all, Ill give it kudos on dna 365 and thats about it, they seem to focus more on headbands and shoes than actual player models, just look at poor O.J. Mayo, looks like something out of DC comic book. While 2k10 has its fair share of problems. live wont sell again next year and they year after that, and poor Mike Wang will be wondering why did he make a move from first to worst.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/okafor43 okafor43

    Why Pasta why every year you rank this game soo high and it sells soo low, Live 10 sucks, I gave it a try and didnt like it at all, Ill give it kudos on dna 365 and thats about it, they seem to focus more on headbands and shoes than actual player models, just look at poor O.J. Mayo, looks like something out of DC comic book. While 2k10 has its fair share of problems. live wont sell again next year and they year after that, and poor Mike Wang will be wondering why did he make a move from first to worst.

  • jusmegamer

    Live has better online play other than that 2K dominates. 2K totally dominates with more realistic graphics and gameplay. 2K is a great game. Pasta should be ashamed, what a joke you are Pasta

  • jusmegamer

    Live has better online play other than that 2K dominates. 2K totally dominates with more realistic graphics and gameplay. 2K is a great game. Pasta should be ashamed, what a joke you are Pasta

  • jusmegamer

    Live has better online play other than that 2K dominates. 2K totally dominates with more realistic graphics and gameplay. 2K is a great game. Pasta should be ashamed, what a joke you are Pasta

  • http://www.shorthandedstudio.com/ John Wayne H.

    I would have sold my copy of Live too after a week, but I kept tweaking it and struggling with it and hating on it, then all of a sudden it became the best basketball game I have ever bought. It just took a few weeks for me to "get it" I guess. It does have flaw though, this is true.

  • http://www.shorthandedstudio.com/ John Wayne H.

    I would have sold my copy of Live too after a week, but I kept tweaking it and struggling with it and hating on it, then all of a sudden it became the best basketball game I have ever bought. It just took a few weeks for me to "get it" I guess. It does have flaw though, this is true.

  • http://www.shorthandedstudio.com John Wayne H.

    I would have sold my copy of Live too after a week, but I kept tweaking it and struggling with it and hating on it, then all of a sudden it became the best basketball game I have ever bought. It just took a few weeks for me to "get it" I guess. It does have flaw though, this is true.

  • rell

    Live is a good game, i prefer 2k over it becus 2k actually lets me play defense…..(altho its starting 2 slip away from that) but live is better then i thought it would be, my only problem is when i played my dynasty mode the comp made some of the dumbest trades ever…..Kobe for VC? Dwight for Amare? seriously? lmao and andrew bynum hit a fadeaway 3pter BULLSH**. Also there lack of a defense stance button is trash! holding R1 i think? just 2 follow ur man around is terrible and i hate the free throw its next gen lets get away from the meter bar thing thats current gen and thats where it should stay at

  • rell

    Live is a good game, i prefer 2k over it becus 2k actually lets me play defense…..(altho its starting 2 slip away from that) but live is better then i thought it would be, my only problem is when i played my dynasty mode the comp made some of the dumbest trades ever…..Kobe for VC? Dwight for Amare? seriously? lmao and andrew bynum hit a fadeaway 3pter BULLSH**. Also there lack of a defense stance button is trash! holding R1 i think? just 2 follow ur man around is terrible and i hate the free throw its next gen lets get away from the meter bar thing thats current gen and thats where it should stay at

  • rell

    Live is a good game, i prefer 2k over it becus 2k actually lets me play defense…..(altho its starting 2 slip away from that) but live is better then i thought it would be, my only problem is when i played my dynasty mode the comp made some of the dumbest trades ever…..Kobe for VC? Dwight for Amare? seriously? lmao and andrew bynum hit a fadeaway 3pter BULLSH**. Also there lack of a defense stance button is trash! holding R1 i think? just 2 follow ur man around is terrible and i hate the free throw its next gen lets get away from the meter bar thing thats current gen and thats where it should stay at

  • Sharksbreath

    2k is really there own victim. With 2k8 they showed they can get close to perfection.

    Anything less will be met with scorn.

    2k10 is close to 2k8. If they get the online portion completely fixed you can put this game in the top 3.

  • Sharksbreath

    2k is really there own victim. With 2k8 they showed they can get close to perfection.

    Anything less will be met with scorn.

    2k10 is close to 2k8. If they get the online portion completely fixed you can put this game in the top 3.

  • Sharksbreath

    2k is really there own victim. With 2k8 they showed they can get close to perfection.

    Anything less will be met with scorn.

    2k10 is close to 2k8. If they get the online portion completely fixed you can put this game in the top 3.

  • Wes

    Yeah you have to give both games a chance. I prefer nba live at the moment, but it took me a couple of weeks to get used to it.

  • Wes

    Yeah you have to give both games a chance. I prefer nba live at the moment, but it took me a couple of weeks to get used to it.

  • Wes

    Yeah you have to give both games a chance. I prefer nba live at the moment, but it took me a couple of weeks to get used to it.

  • idontcarewhatyousay

    you guys are funny…..come on man you will neva see a real baller play nba jam oops i mean nba live over 2k any year…..unless he wants to dribble with shaq and throw a three point shot with yao ming wich will neva happen in 2k but seen it happen 2million times on live……i dont know about fun but the most realistic basketball game is made by 2k hands down…

  • idontcarewhatyousay

    you guys are funny…..come on man you will neva see a real baller play nba jam oops i mean nba live over 2k any year…..unless he wants to dribble with shaq and throw a three point shot with yao ming wich will neva happen in 2k but seen it happen 2million times on live……i dont know about fun but the most realistic basketball game is made by 2k hands down…

  • idontcarewhatyousay

    you guys are funny…..come on man you will neva see a real baller play nba jam oops i mean nba live over 2k any year…..unless he wants to dribble with shaq and throw a three point shot with yao ming wich will neva happen in 2k but seen it happen 2million times on live……i dont know about fun but the most realistic basketball game is made by 2k hands down…

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/kgingreen kgingreen

    all of you guys riding ea's jock here and over at OS just to get paid are laughable. It's sad really. This game is garbage and EA lied.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/kgingreen kgingreen

    all of you guys riding ea's jock here and over at OS just to get paid are laughable. It's sad really. This game is garbage and EA lied.

  • http://intensedebate.com/people/kgingreen kgingreen

    all of you guys riding ea's jock here and over at OS just to get paid are laughable. It's sad really. This game is garbage and EA lied.

  • smokez4dayz

    Live doesnt even play a good game of basketball, and you detail it in your own words. It doesnt play right. doesnt feel like the real thing. Yet you claim you had the most fun with it? I doesnt pass well, doesnt let you successfully drive the lane, and you claim that the arena atmosphere was enough to keep you playing a broken coded game? lol. lmao. Furthermore, a broken coded game, that looked cartoonish, with bad animation was fun to you? Lets hope you have illiterate or young visitors to your site. any one with half a brain can see that you are missing more than half of yours

  • smokez4dayz

    So the only game my 2k dudes focused on was 2k10bb and 2k9baseball. And their two products were the worst products compared to all the shovelware you have listed from EA. Baseball Manager isn't even a game and you tried to rate it. You must amuse yourself at the backward rhetoric you produce. How do you look yourself in the mirror, knowing you are an asshole

  • smokez4dayz

    Live doesnt even play a good game of basketball, and you detail it in your own words. It doesnt play right. doesnt feel like the real thing. Yet you claim you had the most fun with it? I doesnt pass well, doesnt let you successfully drive the lane, and you claim that the arena atmosphere was enough to keep you playing a broken coded game? lol. lmao. Furthermore, a broken coded game, that looked cartoonish, with bad animation was fun to you? Lets hope you have illiterate or young visitors to your site. any one with half a brain can see that you are missing more than half of yours

  • smokez4dayz

    So the only game my 2k dudes focused on was 2k10bb and 2k9baseball. And their two products were the worst products compared to all the shovelware you have listed from EA. Baseball Manager isn't even a game and you tried to rate it. You must amuse yourself at the backward rhetoric you produce. How do you look yourself in the mirror, knowing you are an asshole

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