MLB 2K10 Removes Check Swings

by pastapadre
Posted January 22nd, 2010 at 11:34 am

With just over five weeks until release there isn’t a great deal of detail out there on MLB 2K10 other than the vague features list and a couple previews based on very limited exposure with the game. That makes the Q&A from Chase at Operation Sports that much more revealing. After checking out the game yesterday he is responding to questions while preparing a full preview for Monday.

There is a lot of good info to be had from reading through but the thing getting the most attention is that there will be no ability to check swing in MLB 2K10. This is a critical element of baseball and even more so in a video game where players are eager to jump on most pitches. This is especially ironic given how the “pitchers vs hitters” battle is the focus for the year yet something so integral to each at bat is taken away. Meanwhile the competing product has enhanced a check swing system that was already very natural and responsive.

On a personal level this is a huge deal as I tend to rely on check swings for when I get over-anxious at the plate. This is maybe less of a problem for MLB 2K10 though given the right stick swing mechanic. One of the major downsides to that is there is no natural way to pull off a check swing using the right stick. You either commit or you don’t despite various ways that have been implemented before such as letting go of the stick early or using a trigger. Regardless, while doing so was less prevalent in previous years that still doesn’t excuse the complete absence of the check swing in 2K10.

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  • Brian
    WHATS NEXT? ARE THEY GONNA GET RID OF BATS TOO?
  • ricky
    bob suck dick, bob suck dick.
  • Jamin
    real mature choice of words. Why should you care if someone thinks 2k is better than the show if he really does. He's probably just doing it to make everyone mad and it's working.
  • !!!
    Next year next year next year.. That's all I've ever heard about MLB 2K. Fuck this series. It has failed. It's through.
  • nwostar
    How do you know check swing is taken out of the game for sure? Why make speculative articles when not knowing the whole story? If you don't like the right stick for batting, use the buttons instead.
  • Uh...because the DEVELOPERS OF THE GAME told someone from the site Operation Sports in a Q&A that check swings are out.

    If they are wrong, then the people making the game have no clue what they are and are not putting in the game! So either way, 2K is having some issues.
  • No check swings...Thats it how in the hell can you have no check swing in baseball, I guess 2k is readying up the excuse of why soo many swings again.
  • Hey Pasta,

    Not sure if you noticed or not, but you were mentioned as a source in GameInformer this month regarding 2K not continuing its hockey franchise.

    Pretty cool, eh?
  • Yeah someone mentioned that to me either on Twitter or through email. I personally haven't seen it though!
  • Ozmosis
    2k is losing so much money on this exclusive rights deal..beacuse SCEA is making them look really bad. I almost think 2k figured it wouldnt get the competition it did from the show when they over paid for the rights. If the Show is such a terrible game why does it blow 2k away in sales and its single playform release? didnt see anyone saying 2k baseball rocked the fing world..I think 2k cut its budget to try and minimize their loss and since the contract is up in 2012..all you xbox fans might get to have the show sooner than you think..I cant wait till the exclusive licenses is gone or given to the show..then we can see SCEA go into high gear and just knock one out of the park. there is not much to defend here...all you 2k guys are defending your game..not very honorably because you have an emotional attachment to it..but realistically 2k is dropping the ball in almost every way. its not just check swings theyre getting rid of..we just dont know what else because they're afraid to release info during SCEA's big info release. and if you have to stick up for developers and their cronies about wrong info or not knowing..the info should have been released..this is a case of a company bombing and doing all kinds of behind the scenes scheming to keep their jobs..this is an embarrassment to MLB and they wont like it...
  • you've said nothing but pure unfiltered truth right here...how on earth do people play 2k baseball, seriously.
  • SDwinder
    Let's face it, 2K's swing stick batting has never worked for people that actually know how to play the game of baseball. The check swing hasn't worked since at least 2K7, that was the first one I bought. So really there is no loss here for 2K10 fans.

    The design and implementation of the swing stick batting is flawed and does not mimic the thought process and physical execution of what an educated, experienced batter does in real life. The Show's method does this about as well as can be done so far. 2K's game is not targeted at real baseball players, but at arcade people who wouldn't know the difference. This is the opinion of many of my former college and pro baseball teammates. We go back to the days of Earl Weaver Baseball on the Amiga and the original Hardball on the C64.
  • ...
    yup check swing never really worked anyways
  • Philly
    Just read the Q&A. If there's one thing I can say about this, it's that the MLB 2K crew obviously isn't in any kind of ALERT stage. Maybe they didn't get the message that they're COSTING THE COMPANY MONEY! I don't know, but it sounds like (from what I got from reading) they've fixed some CORE issues (those that should've been fixed years ago OR never should've been a problem in the first place OR those they had in 2K7 and then for no reason got rid of), but in doing so are leaving the little things of the game bare. How can you not have a check swing? Defensive swing is nice, but games can be over because of a check swing. Not just that, but stadiums STILL not having specific traditions/fan chants etc., player faces not being up to par with the rest of the graphics in the game, and other things don't sound like they'll be included. Yea some of that isn't needed to make a baseball GAME, but go to a real game, and little things make up a baseball EXPERIENCE. Yet, it seems like 2K just doesn't get it. They say they want to add these things in future games. This might be the last game they get to make with the money they're costing 2K Sports. And if so, good flippin riddance.
  • people...do what I did, get you a PS3. I took my xbox and all my games, traded it in, and got me a PS3 a year ago.
  • ...
    way to rip yourself off, bet you didnt get half what you spent originally on all your stuff, better of just keeping the 360 and getting the ps3
  • oh i got ripped off like something you wouldn't even imagine. I had a few games, a wireless controller and my xbox with the hard drive, I still came out of pocket some 150+ dollars including MLB 09...

    and I couldn't have been happier. i've been 100% satisfied with my PS3 and then some...and knowing that every year I can play a good baseball game is priceless. notice i said GOOD - I will settle for GOOD just so happens that MLB is GREAT...2k sports can't even do just a "good" baseball game...i couldn't take it anymore.
  • SDwinder
    Hey Bob, listen to Mister Woods. He was pulling a Bob last year at this time, too. Come to the light Bob.
  • Jamin
    No need to rip 2k yet. Ronnie said that they are going to clear this up in an upcoming blog.
  • To me, it's pretty simple.

    Check swing is in, or check swing is out.

    Why the need to clear it up in a blog?
  • Jamin
    Ronnie is just the messenger. Maybe the developers can't answer because they are working on the game. It may be something that Ronnie can't answer.
  • If he's the messenger, it would be beneficial if he actually knew what he was talking about...
  • thaSLAB®
    "I can't access OS at work..."

    Have you tried www.osatwork.com? LOL, sounds like I'm joking, but I'm serious.
  • Jamin
    Yes it was with the developers.
  • Thanks for the info, Jamin.

    So the devs say check swings are out, yet the apparently they made mistakes regarding editing of stances, etc. in their Q&A with OS. In other words, they have no idea what's in their own game?

    Ronnie doesn't know any info, yet keeps people's hopes up...

    Meanwhile, consumers are left wondering who's telling the truth and if 2K will actually deliver this year.

    Not the way 2K should start the baseball season after last year's mess.
  • Jamin
    Here's what Ronnie said:

    OK, I talked to the dev guys about this. This is not Chase's fault. Regardless, the ability to edit stances is in the game along with the ability to remove visual aids. Carry on.

    I don't know what is going on with check swings or how to do them (or at worst, why they were removed). I'll make sure this is brought up during the Pitcher Batter Insight in the future.

    and than later on he said:

    Read what I said about check swings. I am going to leave that to the dev team to explain. Maybe there's a way to do it, I am not sure. I haven't figured out how on my behalf though. That doesn't mean it's not in there. But I will let dev talk about the full interface when it's time.
  • 2kdissapointsme
    no check swing in baseball is like not being able to pull out during intercourse.
  • Graphic....
  • Adam
    That's f-ing weak on 2K's part, but it's not like EA really has all aspects of football in Madden either. Anyone ever blocked a punt or had a defender catch your FG attempt right as it leaves your kickers foot, which is then inexplicably whistled as a dead ball? Or tried to throw a pass to a WR who's cutting to the sideline only to have your QB lead the pass 15 yards out of bounds?It sucks, it doesn't kill the whole game but it sure as hell takes the air out of it a bit.
  • I think its one thing to be lacking in certain areas, and another to take out a critical element of every at bat that has been the baseball games as long as I can remember.
  • Ozmosis
    I think what might be happening this year is a push by Sony to get MLB to reconsider their contract with MLB 2k. 2k underestimated the shows release this year and decided to lay back..maybe thinking if MLB breaks the contract they'll get a bigger pay out than what they make in sales...its bad when a ps3 exclusive blows away a game on both consoles..mlb..wanting to build its popularity again will want to be as well promoted as it can and cant keep the MLB from grabbing on to the best baseball game being made instead of this drowning mess of a game as 2k
  • bob
    boo hoo pasta cries about 2k. What else is new around here?
  • SDwinder
    The only one crying is you Bob. Everyone else has moved on from 2K. You would too if you didnt get a paycheck from 2K.......and you know it!
  • ricky
    bob suck dick
  • Wookie48
    Well heres a post not biased...Here we are on a friday night and the "developer insight"" that was promised every weds, or thurs, or friday LOL; has yet to be released and looks to not be released. I mean how hard is it to be accountable to the community project THEY imposed?! This company has have some of the weakest leadership I have ever seen! LOL John Maxwell needs to be in there...like yesterday. Its like they let their kids run that company. The fact that ronnie says the reason nothing has been released because of a rejected screen HE submitted is proof that the company is ran by idiots. If they want every one else to market their product for them (seems to be negative marketing with no public rebuttle) then thats on them and they can try to figure out why they suck again this year. Its ok...WE KNOW WHY!
  • 2k? Hell naw!
    I can't believe the balls on these 2K guys.
    While the show is actually releasing info and screens, 2K is acting all holier than thou and keeping a ton of features a secret.
    Uh, hello! You guys just released THE WORST game of the year, and you think people give a flying f*ck about your game? Not only do you stall and stall and stall, you don't include CHECK SWINGS!?!
    What. The. Hell?
    It's time for a full on BOYCOTT. Don't even rent or borrow it. Make 2K sell the MLB rights to EA, so they can only make NBA(Good) and NHL(Ewwww) titles.
  • grbrown4
    Once again 2k pulls a plaxico buress and shoots themselves in the foot , just stick with basketball. or wait until the nfl is available mlb the show wins again
  • Ozmosis
    I like 2k's method of marketing...tell people what they're scrapping that they should be keeping..the show keeps releasing info about the things the added and 2k is telling us what they take out..if it isnt taken out..its even worse marketing..lets make up crap to create fake hype over a bad game
  • This is a valid point. As a fact, the features list for 2K appeared to be the same as last year.
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