Thoughts on the Final Madden Roster Update

by pastapadre
Posted February 11th, 2010 at 11:32 am

When the final roster update for Madden 10 was released one change caught everyone by surprise. Players who had retired in the time between the end of their season and when the update arrived were removed, most notable of them being Kurt Warner. Upon discovering this I posted the article on the subject and hoped to get a comment on why the action was taken. As far as I know their removal represented the only time that off-season transactions were made in the game for a season that had just completed.

The response I got back was that the decision to remove the players in question was made because they retired before the end of the season. This being the first time it was ever done it feels like an opportunity to get feedback on the subject. Whether it could ultimately result in those players being brought back or if it would be used just for consideration in the future appears up in the air right now.

Do you feel that transactions that take place after the season is over for a player/team but before the final Super Bowl update arrives should be included? Or should players that spent the season with a team stay on that particular roster regardless of what happens in that time period? Leave your thoughts in the comments and vote in the poll below.

  • okafor43

    Pasta that is Bull… they played this season! That should be taken effect next season! If thats the case rookies are drafted this year and they are not gonna add them till next year!

  • Mykal94

    I dont think its fair to remove them, especially if a guy in the Super Bowl retired after the game. Would he still be in the game, when others were removed? It seems ridiculous that some retired players would still be in the game while others were not.

  • 5Two7

    Still cant believe they took him out. Now Cardinals fans are stuck with Matt Leinart for the next six months while facing teams who'll have guys that end up leaving teams in just a few weeks. Can we get some consistency from EA please? Damn

  • WurlBFree

    I think you only care because it's Kurt Warner that was taken out. If it was a 3rd stringer that barely played and retired, you would not care.

    Nevertheless, I voted that “players that retired following completion of their season” should be removed.

  • Allan

    Imagine if Brett Favre had said he was retiring right after that game. EA would have removed him? Something tells me they wouldn't have. You just cant take something that happens during the beginning of the offseason and apply it to the game that is for the past year. EA wouldn't add Kurt Warner back in come March if he changed his mind…

  • Aaron Rodgers

    They should not do this. Madden 10 represents THIS season under which Kurt Warner was the QB. Was it Matt Leinart throwing crazy stats in the Wild Card round? No…that was Kurt Warner, THIS season. I understand Madden 11 should have it. But if they are going to remove Kurt Warner for Madden 10 then they should do all other moves this offseason in this game.

    ALSO, there needs to be an online franchise roster update. It's rediculous, guys like Chris Johnson/Mike Sims-Walker/Brett Favre/Miles Austin/Aaron Rodgers are all very underrated.

  • BGotEm

    What are you all crying about? 25% of y'all agree with the change so where r the posts to support it. Stop being swayed by Pasta and make your own fair vote. We all want realistic rosters and complain they aren't done enough. Warner is retired take him off the damn game.

  • rudy109

    Perhaps they should have removed Favre last season, or the Bus in 05 after the SB….Yeah, they just lost their damn minds this year, but that's par for course. If they're gonna start removing players who retire AFTER the season, maybe they should just add all the offseason free agent moves, as well as the draft, then I won't have to buy next year's Madden!!

  • http://twitter.com/BigTwits2010 Jarren Thomas

    i say keep em in just because when im playing against friends offline, no one wants to use the cards with Leinhart

  • Kevin

    I have no problems with them taking guys out of the game who have retired IF we have the option to download previous updated rosters. I don't have Madden anymore but I don't believe they have this option.

  • Kevin

    Already gave my thoughts on the situation but heres a quick question Pasta, what is EA going to for the next couple of NFL years that are in question. Obviously I'm talking about the uncapped year and also a year in which the NFL season might not even happen. If there is no season is EA just not going to make the game? I assume Madden is one of the big money makers and if there is no NFL, they could take a financial hit no?

  • Jono

    “they retired before the end of the season” WTF EA, are you f*cking kidding me? Are they telling me if those retired players had the chance to “complete” the season they wouldnt? What a fucking joke, if those who retired made the Super Bowl I'm sure they would have played it therefore finishing the full season.

  • OEO

    he is retired for the 2010-2011 season. he played the full 2009-2010 season which is what Madden 10 is about.

  • Kris

    Torry Holt was released today. So why do Jags fans have him on the team for the next six months but Cardinals fans don't have Warner?

  • ninfreak

    This is complete nonsense i mean EA Sports was freaking lazy enough making so little updates this year it was pitiful now to do this why are people at madden such lazy bastards

  • Mykal94

    I agree and I think that EA doesn't want to admit to making a mistake, so they're sticking with it. If you make a mistake don't try to play it off, fix it.

  • juan deleon

    MAJOR B.S. ea needs to fix this with a real roster update. or at least put the retired players in the fa pool.

  • juan deleon

    i hope someone at ea has the sack to correct this screwup.

  • GOTTEM

    I'm glad something is done correctly besides the thrown ball not spinning in the air!!!
    Where were yall when i was crying about T.O getting Hit every week. He ran the fastest 40 yard reverse i ever seen.(self explanatory) i didn't see a lost of step.
    And i seen the whole game when the jets lost to them cause of T.O.while everyone was getting the lube ready for Revis-he blew that game cause of pass interferences(plural)which is all he ever does.
    And to get a TD's from Fitzpatrick is downright spectacular. I Think!
    So like you all told me i will gladly type to you
    He's old, get over it, and never coming back!!
    I expect you to bring Kurt back like T.O to get his 93 OvR back!! LOL 90+speed at least
    dont even worry about Kurt if you are not going to fix the spinning ball!!!!!!!!!!THANX

  • Angry Guy

    “What are you all crying about? 25% of y'all agree with the change so where r the posts to support it. Stop being swayed by Pasta and make your own fair vote. We all want realistic rosters and complain they aren't done enough. Warner is retired take him off the damn game.”

    I think those 25% misread the question. Complete bullshit by the way. Ive been waiting a while for the last update to start a new franchise, but between this and the rediculous sim stats(1000X better before last patch i didn't see why it neeeded tweaked) i don't really care to

  • Wozza

    One thing i did notice, by removing Warner from the game, it basically makes it impossible to get all the trophies in the game now, as there is a specific one for picking off Warner….. will the trophies be updated to reflect the fact he is no longer “in the game”??? poor form again EA!!!

  • Angry Guy

    btw thanks you pasta for bringing this up again hopefully they correct their mistake

  • Badluck

    its bull, now when i start a franchise matt leinart is the starter for the start of the season which is not true, and i dont even have the option of putting warner back on the team

  • Kevin

    This is a good point and I think your the first to bring it up here. Knowing EA they will probably tell you, you can “create” Kurt Warner and get the trophy. I think the trophy thing alone shows that EA wasnt thinking when they did it.

  • raydelizo35

    Padre,

    Makes completely NO SENSE. The players who retired should still be in the game even as FA's. Their retirement should only be felt starting in Madden '11. Also, if EA never did this before, why now?

  • Ryan

    Honestly I think they should just release them to free agency. Then you can do whatever you want with them.

  • angrymadden10fan

    I don't care about what you're all whining about. WHAT ABOUT THE ONLINE FRANCHISE ROSTER UPDATE? We all payed 10 bucks for that SHIT!

  • Jason

    It's Madden 10 not madden 10 and a half or 11… Players that played in that season should stay in the game. The teams should be complete. It's not like you can replace Warner with a Free agent or a drafted player that would be taking his place at this point. The team is literally incomplete

  • JeSTeR

    I'm fine with it if it means they will continue to update rosters until 11 comes out. We all know that won't happen, though.

  • http://www.camelclutchblog.com/ Eric

    For a second I thought this had something to do with the NFLPA. Now knowing this was done by choice, I am completely irate about it as a longtime Madden fan. I bought a game with 2009-10 rosters that aren't there. What is the point about buying the DLC to use a Hometown Hero or Unretire if the retired players will be pulled immediately?

  • tunes522

    i think people are trying to get their cake and eat it too…

    if a player is suspended for 4 games…or the season…or whatever…

    they are removed from the game and no one bats an eye…

    even though they MAY have started the season with that team…

    retirements are being handled correctly…

    they are no longer in the league…and therefore can't be on the roster…

  • tunes522

    you guys are also missing the most important issue here…

    ITS NOT THE OFF-SEASON…

    the off-season starts AFTER the Super Bowl…

    Warner retired BEFORE the Super Bowl…

  • tunes522

    because its NOW the off-season…those were off-season moves made by a team…

    Warner was a personal decision made during current season according to the league calendar…

  • tunes522

    are you serious…its called a DEFAULT roster…delete the downloaded roster and SURPRISE you have Kurt Warner again…

  • wepaidforonline

    Any word on the online franchise roster update… if they dont its pretty much time to trade this game in get as much money for it as possible.. I want to play a season with friends not the cpu.

  • garbage game

    but still if you started a new season with the cardinals, with the new rosters.. you would not have Warner for the 09-10 season… Wich doesnt make sense.. he played the 09-10 season in real life but now he wont play in your season.

    The Smartest thing they Could have done.. is make it so warner retires after the first season no matter what.

  • garbage game

    but still if you started a new season with the cardinals, with the new rosters.. you would not have Warner for the 09-10 season… Wich doesnt make sense.. he played the 09-10 season in real life but now he wont play in your season.

    The Smartest thing they Could have done.. is make it so warner retires after the first season no matter what.

  • tunes522

    counter-point…Chris Henry started the season with the Bengals…but he is no longer in the game…

  • bkbroiler9000

    true, but he was a third receiver who passed away in the middle of the season. Bengals fans still get to use Palmer and Ocho. Removing Kurt Warner from the Cards is like removing Peyton from the Colts. I'd be pissed too if i was a Cards fan.

  • tunes522

    so it only matters if it is a quality player or not?
    so the argument shouldn't be whether EA should remove players who retire before the end of the league calendar year…
    but rather EA shouldn't be allowed to remove good players from teams period?
    if the Cardinals had a suitable backup, then no one would be complaining?
    i'm just trying to look at this from EA's perspective…people complain when a player is left on a roster that shouldn't be…but if the player is a good player, even though he left the roster during the league calendar year…now people want to complain…
    its a tough balancing act…

  • bkbroiler9000

    i understand what you are saying, and i wouldn't have a problem with EA doing this if they had been consistent with these updates all year, which they weren't. They had no interest in making accurate rosters during the season, why after the super bowl is this now the case? At this point they should just leave the rosters alone since the season is over. Now they release yet another half ass sham of an update and remove one of the best players from the game. Are you kidding me? EA has no clue what they doing, but what else is new. They should have at least left Warner on the FA list.

  • 26 g

    How the hell is randy moss rated 95 but yet reggie wayne is rated 96,and moss had a better season and he was injuried as well.he dislocated his shoulder week 5.reggie wayne couldnt even catch the touchdown at the end of the superbowl game,he dropped it and manning put it right on the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THIS SHOULD BE THE RATINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A.Johnson-99.L.Fitzgerald-98.R.Moss-97.R.Wayne-95

  • Anonymous

    This is Madden 2010 not 2011. Kurt Warner should still be in the game. Its weak.

  • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

    Dont have a definitive answer on that yet. I’m not sure if they know what they’re going to do (if anything)

  • …..

    antonio pierce was also released from the Giants recently

  • smokez4dayz

    but they would in the next update. there are no March updates. Crybabies getting upset with a correct move. damn.

  • smokez4dayz

    You want fluid rosters. you have to accept that he isn't in the NFL anymore. Mike Vick was removed and returned on the closest update to the news. Yes the coaches who got fired should be removed to. Mike Shannahan should be washingtons coach, chan gailey with the Bills.
    Online franchise shouldnt replica real life updates because your franchise is separate season from the real nfl. You may have made trades, so how should a guy get an upgrade when he didnt excel with the team you might have him on. Online Franchise should have player progression.

  • smokez4dayz

    kurt warner retired before the final roster update. The BUS retired after the SB and the final roster was already out that year. In the offseason most madden gamers do the trades anyway or make a few rookies, just see what next year's players gonna looklike. Thats offseason. They dont update the rosters in the offseason. so stop making excuses and going in circles about nothing gripe. Authentic shit going on here. deal with it. stop with the “i wish, and they shoulds” they didnt, they removed retired players. who the hell uses the Cards anyway. What player would you care if they removed. Not even Brady, No one player is above the NFL. I faced the Lienart led Cards alot, because I always pop Kurt Warner out the game. anyone that plays madden knows Warner is an easy injury.

  • smokez4dayz

    fool please, YOU dont admit if you made a mistake, don't come on here all holy talking about a billion dollar company should admit something to you…Furthermore, suck it up, its the right thing to do. Go play Madden09 if you love Kurt Warner so much. Or play without the roster update. But I love the idea, its shows they are getting it. we want accurate at the day roster updates. Stop crying about progress, get used to it.

  • smokez4dayz

    if you are starting a franchise, your franchise will not mimic the nfl's standings. futhermore. Matt Lienart is infact the starting qb for the Cards RIGHT NOW.

  • michael

    kurt warner needs to be readded. the cardinals 09-10 team is the team represented in the game. the cardinals never played a game without him this year, so there is no reason for him to no longer be in the game. its bs that if i feel like starting a new franchise this offseason the cardinals wont have a qb

  • Jones

    You may just well be the definition of the ideal Madden homo.

  • smokez4dayz

    lol…even I had to laugh at that…Jones you're an asshole, lmao

  • Anonymous

    updated roster should be as accurate as possible. so he should be gone. and he is. dont get excited by the name. follow the rule. you want authentic rosters? He retired. What are you all crying and asking for? He retired before the Super Bowl. You idiots cried for a FINAL ROSTER BEFORE THE SUPERBOWL SO YOU GOT A VERY AUTHENTIC ONE. How do you find a way to bitch about that to? Losers who dont get their way, making up rules and crying when someone makes a bold move. You pansies. I cant believe you are all the MEN of the future…you all are idiots.

  • RexWechsler

    This is dumb. Every update should improve the realism of the game. This does not do that. In addition, I can imagine that if I were an Arizona Cardinals fan, I would probably be a Kurt Warner fan. If I can’t play with Kurt in March or June, I think it makes it less likely that I play the game at all.

  • Anonymous

    if you start a new season, you might trade for a offensive lineman for the Cards, any trade that didnt happen makes your franchise, yours, dont compare it to the season.

  • Anonymous

    dont get mad at company for finally handling things right. thats like bitching about a problem thats fixed. waste of talk. Warner is retired. Damn, I dont see people asking for Bruce Bowen in 2k10 or sundiata gaines a dleaguer on the Jazz. I betchu if EA gave madden away for free, some of you would make up some conspiracy. to hell with you cry babies.

  • Anonymous

    Smokez4Dayz on xbox live. I have used my NYJ since PS2 and Keyshawn and Vinny. anyone wanna get their ass bust. holla. I pass and pass alot, and I run all over you. enough talk. bring it sissies. Im calling all of you out. Brooklyn NYC stand up.

  • Blair 7

    They Shouldn’t be removed since there respective replacements have not been named on the dept chart. or haven’t been drafted yet. Ok

  • AmenRa

    No one cares about these bums retiring. We want to know about online franchise for 2011

  • Bisett

    If Warner was still on roster

    no one would be bitching.

    point closed

  • Bisett

    If warner wasn;t missing no would care

    point closed

  • garbage game

    anyways asshole.. chris henry passed away.. that’s a completely different story…

  • zzzzzzz

    ok but you still start the season with the 09-10 rosters, an from there yes its your season you do what you want… they removed the starting f**king qb from a playoff team, you cant use him in the season he just played an took his team to the playoffs.. you wonder why madden is a shitty game

  • Alex

    if u want to play with the old rosters that are now out of date and include kurt warner then dont download the current update! if u wana play in the past stay in past. not that hard

  • cory

    to be honest i wish that madden would skip years in between games and only do roster updates, but really stay on top of them. most of the time the game from year to year is just about the same with a few little things thrown in. instead i wish that they would do madden 11 as pure roster updates and patches, like giving you wembly stadium as a playing field or something, and take the time to make madden 12 the best of the franchise.

  • Wozza

    but then that basically defeats the purpose of having any roster updates in the first place…

  • tunes522

    really that was addressed to the people who whine, “now it is impossible to get the Kurt Warner achievement”…

  • JoeCB91

    Like I said before, I’m fine with using Matt Leinart. He does have one of the best ratings for a Backup QB.

    But I don’t like being forced to use him in a game for the season where Warner was the starter for the entire year. Warner should have stayed, they can take him out for Madden 11 but not Madden 10.

  • isiah

    This is madden 10 not Madden 11 !!! give us Kurt Warner!!! bad move by ea sports!!

  • isiah

    I WISH I DIDNT SAVE THE LAST ROSTER UPDATE !!! HOW CAN WE RELIVE THE 09-2010 SEASON NOW!! I HOPE THE GIVE UP A PASS ROSTER DOWNLOAD WHERE KURT WARNER IS IN THE GAME!!!

  • james

    how about startig a poll to see if we want donny moore back next year?

  • james

    how about startig a poll to see if we want donny moore back next year?

  • nally

    i completely agree about the 3rd string thing, your are 100 percent right they would not care or give a damn, no one has said a damn thing about b. berry or j. seau because they are not as good as warner. but i dont think they should have been taken out. people are just bitches. but i do think EA has fucked up major they turned madden 2010 into madden 2009 with the ratings.

    my point is STOP bitching about warner you dumbasses, if you just bitch about warner your an idiot. if you bitch about all the players including warner who were removed then its fine but not just because it makes the cardinals suck.

  • Anonymous

    i completely agree about the 3rd string thing, your are 100 percent right they would not care or give a damn, no one has said a damn thing about b. berry or j. seau because they are not as good as warner. but i dont think they should have been taken out. people are just bitches. but i do think EA has fucked up major they turned madden 2010 into madden 2009 with the ratings.

    my point is STOP bitching about warner you dumbasses, if you just bitch about warner your an idiot. if you bitch about all the players including warner who were removed then its fine but not just because it makes the cardinals suck.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jerry-Valenzuela/100000611846628 Jerry Valenzuela

    One of the things I like about Madden was the fact that I was using the roster from the actual team. If they retire, they should be removed from the roster just like real life.

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