Maroney and Loeffler Upset With Their Representation in Madden 11

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Posted August 27th, 2010 at 3:35 pm

It never fails that there will be players that publicly speak out against their Madden ratings. Many go about contacting EA behind the scenes in an attempt to get their ratings boosted but others aren’t shy to go on record about it. Two as of late have cropped up. New England Patriots RB Laurence Maroney is one while Minnesota Vikings long-snapper Cullen Loeffler has a completely different gripe.

In Maroney’s case his gripe seems to be centered on his speed rating, something that seems to be a point of contention more than any other category among players as evidenced last year when TJ Houshmandzadeh made a big deal out of it. Ironically Maroney has been absent from the last two preseason games leading to speculation he has fallen way down the depth chart.

“They got me terrible on Madden, man. I wanna tell Madden that too… You know what’s crazy? When I had my little shoulder problem (in 2008), I was 93, 94 speed on Madden. After my shoulder, I came back at about 88. What’s my shoulder got to do with my feet? I know I ain’t that slow…Madden trippin’ on my speed, you know I’m not an 88. He got Fred and them faster than me. I know they ain’t faster than me.”

Cullen Loeffler though is upset that he isn’t even included on the Madden rosters. The long-time Viking is entering his seventh season and has never once appeared in a Madden game.

I don’t even play it, mainly for the reason I’m not in it,” he admitted. “I feel disrespected.” Though Brett Favre jokingly exclaimed “I think it probably makes the game better…Who the fuck is Cullen Loeffler?”

The problem of course is that EA has hamstrung themselves by including only 53 man rosters with some of those slots ending up being taken by players on IR. That has always meant that specialists get shafted in favor of players that can better contribute in the game. It’s why there are sometimes starters playing special teams and long-snappers, such as Loeffler, are omitted because they would essentially be inconsequential. Pretty much any player can snap in Madden with no difference in the result.

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  • Allmaddenking

    will the update include adding the sprint button online?

  • BCKixAzz

    I’ve always hated those roster requirements. They don’t have that in football, so they shouldn’t have it in the game (or just leave it in year after year). A funny thing is that when EA updates the rosters, sometimes they have less than ten OL. But we can’t update it ourselves to have less than ten. And I want long snappers, too. They may be the least glamorous players in the game, but they do exist. Hopefully they fix this some year (it’s a minor annoyance but shouldn’t be too hard to fix).

  • X2KFootballG0dX

    Who cares!!! Good news is Madden 11 sales have dropped around 70% from the first week……I LOVE IT!!!!!!!

    The sheep are starting to stray from the herder :)

    Pasta,

    Please do another story on Madden sales……..or lack thereof lol

  • Schoenzilla

    1 starter, 2 on the roster. that is what he meant….. dude.

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  • death 2 shitty games

    YES MADDEN SALES ARE IN THE DUMPER. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PEOPLE THIS IS CAUSE FOR CELEBRATION. IF WE STAY STRONG WE CAN GET RID OF THE NFL EXCLUSIVE LICENSE AND THEN SOMEONE WILL MAKE US A REAL FOOTBALL GAME IN A FEW YEARS!!! FINALLY!!!

  • death 2 fake football

    KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK PEOPLE LET’S FINISH OFF THIS EMBARRASSMENT OF A GAME ONCE AND FOR ALL UNTIL THEY TREAT US WITH SOME RESPECT AND GIVE US A REAL FOOTBALL GAME

  • jkaisen41

    Absolutely, absolutely dude…

    You see and take notes EA, there is a game called Pro Evolution Soccer (it’s from Konami) and they did it ever since – they simple have an offense skill and defensive skill rating – and that stays it doesn’t matter if you change Speed, Acceleration, Awareness – the skill level stays – if you play a career or whatever of course the skill level can climb…

    I agree that if they want to decrease or increase a player they simply play with speed and and and… and that’s wrong!!! It has the feel that the ratings system is just there to have an overall rating and not that the ratings have an actual meaning for the game itself…

    If you simply can give a guy an overall rating you can really put emphasis on what he really does good… without increasing awareness, speed or whatever

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  • http://twitter.com/Mason_drews Mason Drews

    well Dallas has 10 OL but only has one center?

  • X2KFootballG0dX

    Yes, my friend , the end of EA and it’s disgusting exclusive license crusade is nearing its end :)

    EA has destroyed quality licensed football games this generation…smh

    Let them ROT!!!

    Bring back 2K Football!!!!!!

  • Buc

    The Franchise has long needed a “Practice Squad” or reserve list of players, above and beyond the limit of 53. It’s been one of the dumbest things they’ve left out of the game. Each team has “X” number of PSquad players that no other team can sign, and they are free to promote up to the roster incase of injury.

    That’s what madden needs to implement. Then problem solved.

  • N/A

    I’ve played and owned every Madden since Madden ’89 on Sega. This is by far the BEST Madden ever made. I thought Madden 10 was one of the worst. Therefore, I believe Madden has made huge strides with Madden ’11 and actually thought to myself, what will people complain about this year?

    I CANNOT BELIEVE YOU PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT HAVING PRACTICE SQUADS OR LONG SNAPPERS! REALLY?!

    Admit it, Madden ’11 has finally found the mesh between fun and realistic, the hardest thing to do. If the game was 100% realistic you wouldn’t play it! You’d be bored; scoring less, and punting more. Once Madden adds long snappers and practice squads what will your next gripe be? It’s a simulation, not reality. If you want reality, get outside and go play football. Instead you’re all getting fat and wanting to vicariously live your football dreams through cyber space.

  • Abc

    Huge difference. Some players simply don’t perform well when testing their 40 times (i.e. there is a lot of pressure when going to test this) but they run like deers on the football field under the lights. Terrell Davis, Larry Fitzgerald, and Wes Welker all come to mind.

  • Mellyfresh

    N/A you are a complete moron if you think this game the best Madden of all let alone better than Madden 10 where defense actually mattered

  • Vaporub83

    A lot of people want to talk about practice squad, let that crap go. Can you name the 8 players on your favorite teams practice squad from last year? If not stop asking for something you don’t even care about.

  • Vaporub83

    53 man rosters themselves are a joke. Everyone who wants realism should be yelling for 45 man game day rosters since that is all who can actually dress per game. I’m willing to bet all NFL teams go 2 deep in every position except for K & P on the 53 man roster. They only dress about 7 OL on the game day rosters.

  • Anonymous

    Madden is arcade football. There is no need for simulation aspects such as a long snapper…something that is very important for every NFL team.

  • Mellyfresh

    yea this years madden is very arcadey in aspects. like when the camera zoome in on the rb’s after they break past the linebackers. when the zoom occurs the defensive player is automatically out of position and by the time you take control of the guy closest to the ball it makes them a full step slower than the running back. sooooooo lame

  • Rude Boy

    I’ve always thought speed ratings were off & I think its the easiest thing to get right. A clear foundation can be set with 40 times & changed after a player performs. For example, I am a 49ers fan Anthony Dixon is a 82 spd which is fair IMO bc of his 40 time however he’s shown he has a burst when in game so with the abundance of roster updates he can get a speed adjustment if he continues to show speed but sadly thats not how EA or Czar Tard do it. But in the end you can blame the Madden community for speed being messed up too many ppl complained “everyone is fast its a stupid game” it is the NFL everyone is fast now EA tries to hold back on the speed which hurts the game

  • Donegan582000

    Donny Moore should follow in the footsteps of his namesake, former MLB Reliever Donnie Moore.

  • Lilfelix114

    (at Pr1mo) Maybe because there is nothing else, so people have a right to complain. I was very disappointed in this years madden. The new feature this year is a total waste, I dont want the computer picking the play 4 me or running fast 4 me. They totally dumbed down the gameplan. We need 2k back and other new brands to make NFL games, competition breeds excellence. There is no competition so EA can basicly coast 4rm year to year cause they know every 1 is still gona bye it. I hope there NFL License runs up soon.

  • Rude Boy

    Rating isn’t speculative. I guarantee someone who knows the NFL could rate players accordingly a scout or team of scouts for each division would do the job but EA doesn’t wanna spend the money they have the ESPN license but what do they do with it???

  • JCAZ Sr

    Not really. Reggie Bush is still a 97 speed and has never really justified that in real life. I’d say 93 because he is fast. But c’mon 97, really.

  • JCAZ SR

    I just wish the helmets would pop off again sometimes. That would be so awesome to cream a dude with Adrian Wilson and his helmet pop off.

  • JCAZ SR

    ITS JUST A FUCKING LONG SNAPPER. WHO CARES. I SNAP WITH MY TE TO GET MORE SPEED ON THE FIELD.

  • madden suckz

    Actually other teams can sign players off your practice squad, it just rarely happens. But yea I agree with everything you said.

  • death 2 fake football

    No, Montes is right. It’s about damn time they implement 3-4 defense into the game. When you are playing a team that runs a 3-4 some DTs would be better at NT than others but in Madden they are all the same. For instance, a 3-technique DT like Kevin Williams wouldn’t be as good at NT as a space filler like Pat Williams. I think that is what Montes is saying and he is right, this game is severely lacking in so many ways that are crucial to real football.

  • death 2 fake football

    I think you are starting to show signs of having Alzheimer’s disease. You clearly don’t remember all those Maddens you played because THIS GAME IS TRASH. Madden 2001-2005 were all way better than this game for sure and it’s really not even debatable at all. Not to mention the mid 90′s Maddens were way better than this piece of shit when you factor in their respective eras.

  • N/A

    My critique lies squarely with game play and graphics. Player ratings are subjective and the absence of long snappers and practice squads is moot. Gameplay alone, beats any madden ever made. That includes the realism.

    I’m not sure what you are critiquing when you play, but it must not be gameplay.

  • N/A

    It’s unfortunate that your discussion has to lead to the use of personal attacks to make a point. If you want to make an argument, make an argument without including personal attacks. Otherwise, your just opining, which in the end, no one cares about.

    Your statement carries no weight. You didn’t include why you think defense doesn’t matter and back it up with real examples. Defense does matter. The biggest disappointment is in the kick-return game, but other than that, if you are good at the game then you would see Defense matters in this game.

  • Ghu55

    Laurence Maroney is far from a grown man, just saying

  • Ghu55

    Laurence Maroney is far from a grown man, just saying

  • Anonymous

    I actually completely agree with Loeffler here, I don’t understand why they don’t expand the rosters… There are players that are on NFL teams but are sitting in FA in Madden because there isn’t enough room on the roster. Then guys like long snappers are just completely left out, it’s ridiculous.

  • ryan e.

    not entirely true that a sprinter wouldnt be FASTER than a football player, but thats what agility and acceleration are for, for the guys who make better football moves than straight line running

    • woogie boogie

      The problem with that though is Agility and Acceleration either don’t mean shit, or they’re rated right around the same as the speed rating. Whearas on NCAA, accelration makes a big difference. go pick it up, and try doing half the shit on madden with a guy with 98 speed as u can on madden. Why can’t you? because they didn’t botch locomotion, oh, and he probably has 80 acceleration

  • Rob wyatt

    i do agree with daley that ratings are speculative, and that a lot of players are rated pretty high based off of hype or playing against a weak division (cough cough ryan grant cough cough). but i do belive that there are people who can rate this game wayyy better than the guys at ea

  • g-money

    it isnt about that. they obviously DO care about it if they want it in the game, and they just want the realism to be there.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Corey-Ragland/13752595 Corey Ragland

    Because in real football long snappers are Really important. They determine how well your special teams work.

  • coolcam28

    i agree with maroney that his speed should be higher. He’s fast and he’s a great RB. He has an injury problem, not a performance problem. he should be an 84 overall at least and 93 speed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5ATGC6GZYR6JOL2YNMWFFL5SII the juice

    I can actually name 8 players from last year’s practice squad. I can also name the 8 guys I would like to see on the practice squad this year. So yeah, it’s an aspect of NFL football that I would use and like to see. Who wouldn’t want more rosters spots for your franchise mode?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5ATGC6GZYR6JOL2YNMWFFL5SII the juice

    Yep, Madden needs that too. Practice Squad, Injured Reserve that actually frees up a roster spot, long snappers, 45 man game-day rosters, the ability to set my formations and special teams players myself.

    If things like this are too difficult for the casual player, well then give them an option to simplify it.

    It irritates me that Madden has taken a step back from the PS2 days. The older versions had the option to substitute players into formations before you start a game. Why would you take that out? I can’t be the only person who is confused as to why this option is not available anymore.

  • apparently I’m furious

    Oh ok, so unless something is human cloning people aren’t allowed to be upset. That makes sense. You’re a complete and total moron. Stop acting like EA is entitled to gets its ass kissed no matter what it does. If they put out a crappy game people are going to complain. Period. Fanboy rage posts aren’t going to change that.

    You must have a pretty serious crush on Ian & Donny to get this mad that other people have their own opinions. Deal with it, cupcake.

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  • acid

    jerry rice. slow as molasses in the 40. untouchable on the field.

  • LOL

    BOOM Roasted!!!

  • Infemous

    i went from madden 03 to madden 10 and was incensed at that bullshit, the amount of time outs i have wasted making subs at the playcall screen is a joke.

  • Yoyo

    Game is a Turd

  • Joshmclean

    Nothing like 2nd rate NFL players whining about their ratings…

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