The State of Commenting

by pastapadre
Posted August 28th, 2010 at 9:12 am

Lately I’ve gotten a few requests to moderate the comment section differently due to arguments that have enveloped discussion threads. So I wanted to get some thoughts on what everyone would like to see done and take those into consideration.

This dilemma seems to be primarily restricted to the NBA Elite and NBA 2K articles which isn’t a surprise. It remains ironic that people clamor for competition yet the one sport that actually has it ends up with everyone taking a side and going at the throats of those supporting the other. The issue isn’t in disagreements or comments towards the games, but in that they get personal and swallow up any decent discussion that might take place. And this isn’t limited to a single poster. While there are certainly a few that get the brunt of the spotlight there are even more that are baiting it to happen.

I’ve always believed the comments should be left wide open (the forum is for more focused discussion) but on rare occasion have had to step in when things crossed the line. To my recollection there have only been two users banned in the 3+ year site history. However in this case it might now require further moderation. Whether that be editing out certain parts of comments or deleting those in question all together. For the time being I’m looking at doing that selectively.

Just to be clear though this won’t represent a change in philosophy. You’ll always have the opportunity to voice your feelings on the games. This goes more to comments that attack a user’s opinion or throw things off the rails. So let me know how what you think could be done to help the comment section!

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Anonymous

Well Juan, how many times have you personally attacked me unsolicited on here. This site is about voicing an opion on games and what have you. There is no rule that says I have to say NBA2k is great. I think 2k sucks as a company and I will say it over and over again.

But how does that give you the right to launch a personal crusade against me. Attack the post not the poster. How many of you commented on the elite threads in the same manner as I do the 2k threads. Everyone of you. That is the nature of the game. Learn how to be a man and talk about the issue and not the poster.

There would be no problems if you showed a bit of class and stay on topic. Hell some of the crap you guys call pasta is friggin rediculous and pasta know exactly what I am talking about. He gets it pretty heavy during baseball season and the majority of it comes from 2k fans.
VoiceInaudible

Arent we all supposed to be mature condescending adults?
Just because its the internet does not mean we forget our values and personally attack people due to their own opinions no matter how standoffish or outrageous they may be.
Pasta should not have to sit here and monitor/ moderate, censor or even keep an eye on the comments. We are not children, Most of us arent anyway, leave all of that for the 360 game chatting.
LETS GET IT TOGETHER PEOPLE
baconfanatic

this is really good, don’t become like operation sports, they ban you if you swear lol
King JuggaNott

Good Luck “trying”…I read mostly…no need to jump into the conversation.
projectkage

Are you done?
Saucemoney01

Your the one who started it with me. With my mother comment. I won’t reply to anymore of your comments. Have a good life, JB.
Dre2778

It may be a public blog but just coming here just to see what a person posts about a game you don’t like or posts bad things about Live then you Troll everybody’s comments with your rude and snide replies.
BAN DALEY7199

Ummmm just 2 articles ago you posted a bunch of ridiculous messages using fake anonymous names.

YOU’RE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITE EVER
BAN DALEY7199

Hahaha yea right. Keep it up with the lies buddy. Nobody believe your bullshit. You instantly start personal attacks on people when they have an opinion which differs from yours.
whitemamba

Here is my stance of what happens:
Daley posts something negative in a 2K comments section
Everyone gets annoyed because they think that’s the only section he comments in
Daley answers back
Everyone gets pissed
We all start throwing around racist, homophobic, degrading names at each other
whitemamba

I ended up going with 2k10 but I played both demos. I felt the 2K demo was atrocious, like I was able to alley-oop as the Lakers for the whole game and win but since the patches and even in the final build alley-ooping is way hard.
But I think the best advice is just to play both demos, and don’t listen to the haters
Floridagatorfan

Personally, if it were up to me, I would just ban anybody that acts like an idiot in the comments. Too many people post to hate on a game rather than adding anything constructive at all. Just wastes space IMO.
X2KFootballG0dX

Pasta, you don’t want to be like OperationEASports, do you?

What is up with this PC crusade in sports gaming? In the old days if you encounter trash online(Cheeser) or skilless peons you exposed their sorry asses on the forums. Now you got all these “goody two shoes” HOMOderators acting like gods in sports forums banning people for simply exposing the truth about certain gamers, games or developers…ITS PATHETIC.
All these sorry ass HOMOderators all suck online, so most of them are just TARDchisers offline. Plus their all cheesers and don’t know the first thing about SIM SPORTS GAMING. They’re just peons you would probably just bitch slap if you met them in person lol

You are an EA Puppet Pasta, but I congratulate your bashing of Madden this year, the check must’ve bounced from EA this year, huh. lol You really made me proud this year.
I say you don’t ban or moderate anybody. I say also, let little GAYLEY take his jabs at 2K here on this blog.
Without this blog GAYLEY has nothing else.

Have some compassion for “SPECIAL” people like GAYLEY7199.

Thank you
IIII 47 IIII

If you have a problem with another user, just ignore them. I dont get why this is even a topic of discussion, anywhere. People just refuse to take responsibility for their own actions, they always want someone else to step in and save the day. NO one forces you to reply to some jerks outrageous remarks. Thats on the INDIVIDUAL. Someone posts that you have a fat mom, you have 2 options, ignore it and continue posting or respond and derail the topic of discussion, hm which one sounds better and is less likely to cause a problem? This stuff isn’t hard people. Stop being a bunch of pansies, grow a sack and move the eff on.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Shawn-Martin/1009860037 Shawn Martin

Daley man, I hear your 35 correct? Is this all there is to your life..Bashing people through comments trying to make yourself look tough..well it’s not tough man..It’s childish and a immature as it can get
Anonymous

MAn don’t start turning into OS around here…
http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

Thats not whats on the table here. I dont care if people post that Madden sucks. Or that 2K sucks. Whatever. What is troubling is comment threads going off topic due to insults of one user to another.

And BTW love the “puppet” stuff. Just hilarious to me. You wont find any site that is as independent as this one. I dont even get the games from the companies which is something that pretty much every coverage site in any industry gets (copies of products for review).
X2KFootballG0dX

But Pasta, supporting a company that forced the competition out with money shows me lack of integrity.

You’ve got people fooled saying it was the NFL who approached EA about the exclusive, but only a gullible puppet would believe such nonsense. I mean lets break it down, shall we?

EA Exclusive deals all in a span of two years

NFL
NCAA Football
PGA
NASCAR
ARENA FOOTBALL
FIFA
NCAA Basketball(Influenced them to raise the price of the license fee knowing 2K would not renew )
Approached the NBA on numerous occasions to secure exclusive license deal
Attempted a Hostile take over of TAKE TWO, which would’ve killed the 2K Sports competition all together.
EA called MMA a joke, but saw how successful UFC was and now they’re making a game to compete with UFC….smh

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence, right? All these orginizations just happen to wake up and decide LETS GO EXCLUSIVE WITH EA…SMH wake up, man
EA is trash…bottom line.

That is why I call them puppets, because somewhere down the line, these EA consumers have lost their humanity and look the other way when cheating and criminality is occurring…smh NOT ME! I may be an asshole online(sometimes lol) but when I see wrongdoing I do something about it.

I’ve been exposing Madden Mediocrity for 6 years now and finally the sheep herding off the conveyor belt. These are good times.

Exclusives will END..The consumer demands it.
http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

Care to explain how I’m “supporting” them? I don’t tell anyone to buy any particular game. I just provide news and analysis.
come on son

You give overly good reviews of EA games and I would say sometimes even so much so that it completely misrepresents the games as something much better than they really are.

Games that aren’t made by EA (except of course The Show which you LOVE, oddly enough it is the only direct competitor to 2k baseball, coincidence i think not) you make take jabs at in your articles about them and make snide remarks and cast them in a negative light even if they are a consensus top 3 sports game like NBA2k

Your Top 10 sports games of the year article you did was downright embarrassing. YOU HAD MADDEN ARCADE AS THE 7TH BEST GAME OF THE YEAR, LOLOLOL NBA LIVE AT 6TH LOLOLOLOL and NBA2k ALL THE WAY DOWN AT 9TH. Let that marinate for awhile. Come on son, you’re better than this.

Your EA dickriding reputation is well deserved IMO. If you want to shed it you should be more impartial and unbiased about the games.
Hey Pasta

Hahah I love it when i he says it in the prison and the other inmates are repeating what he says.

“And I give it to em like this…I likes ya (HE LIKES YOU!) And I want ya (AND HE WANTS YOU) And we can do this the easy way or we can do it the hard way (WHAT IT GONNA BE TOM??) hahaha

Tom Dubois

“aw naw i knows who you are chris hanson. but see i calls ya chris handsome. i came here lookin for booty. a man’s butt.” LMAO

Hey Pasta

Naw…Naw you ain’t finished….I been watchin you…you didn’t wash behind your ears or nothing…NOW PICK UP THE SOAP!”

hahaha
Hey Pasta

Pasta..you don’t even need to dignify that post with a response. It’s just pure ignorance, homophobic and everyone knows that. You shouldn’t need to respond to a guy who immediately invalidates the integrity and intelligence of his argument by bashing political correctness and adding things like “HOMOderator” and “GAYLEY.” I mean for real? You are above that man.

X2KFootballG0dX

Look man, the truth is never pretty. You cannot just go around sugar coating everything.

1.Madden is trash. It’s a dumbed down kiddie sports game for the masses of shallow gamers whom care not for the actual sport of football, but for logos and teams displayed on a tv screen ..smh
2.HOMOderators are little geeks projecting their god complexes. They know they suck at sports gaming and at life.
btw I stated I was proud of Pasta this year.

Hey Pasta

These are all valid points…but Pasta provides info and analysis for the majority of sports games no matter the company. At what point does he lean and “support” one game over another?? If anything..the exclusive licenses secured by EA only allow him to review (and in your eyes endorse) ONE game for a particular sport. You are just paranoid man.
philly

Daley, if you’re banned, buddy I’ll miss ya. Not that you’re my actual bud(because I don’t know you), and I won’t totally miss the over-the-top sarcasm/name calling etc., but I do think you have good points. Sometimes biased points, haha but good points.
philly

No no. I didn’t say you deserved to be banned. What I tried to say was that most everyone is going to point the finger at you for this article. You’ve pissed a bunch of people off with your comments. Not me, but others (I mean it seems that way). I mean it’s not just you, and I tried to say that in my above post as well. I agree that I’ve said some stuff. I apologize for that. I hold nothing against you, and hopefully that’s equal.
X2KFootballG0dX

I bet you bought Madden and have Elite pre-ordered, huh? lol

Funding a criminal company is not very ethical, don’t you think?

Paranoid, no, pissed off they took my game away, yes.
Pissed at the sports community who would rather buy a shitty game with NFL logos and teams, then a pure football simulation as in APF 2K8, yes.
These Madden Sheep, these supposed “FOOTBALL” gamers, fans…whatever…..Caused 2K to pull the plug on APF 2K9. I hate this generation of gamers….I hate EA….Bottom line.
Call me an asshole…but I will continue to play 2K8 until another 2K Football game comes my way.

Hey Pasta

Dude…. I boycotted Madden and just got done playing 2K10 “My Player” mode for a couple of hours…I have only ever owned one NBA live title..2005. Check my previous comments. I boycotted Madden and explained how un- innovative EA sports is. I am as upset with EA sports and their lack of touch with the community as anyone else. Once again..you are paranoid to the point of over- assumption.

For some reason you associate a simple REVIEW of the ONLY NFL title in gaming with some supposed endorsement of the game. Perhaps you confuse the ideas of comprehensiveness and endorsement. Just because Pasta posts a long review on Madden does NOT mean he is endorsing the game in any way.

You obviously have an agenda which is fine…but you are letting it get into your mind man. Just take a step back and analyze before you post.

http://twitter.com/alvie78 ALeX Cote

I have really been turned off from reading the comments recently due to all the shit going down in there. The original comment can easily be ignored regardless of how fanboyish it is but when a comment section basically become either 1- a flaming war between two or three people, or 2- one person answering every comment made in the thread, it defeats the purpose of commenting on the actual story.

I think a one comment per story per 24 hours is the way to go (if you can prevent multiple accounts). That keeps the focus on the story itself, there is no long-ass meaningless argument between two people… and it may even make some people think before they post one word useless comments.
BigDaneAyMane

Pasta, the problem is there are a few people here that don’t care about what game they support, they care about their “persona” they’ve built. If you read his posts, you can tell Daley doesn’t care for the game he staunchly defends as much as he enjoys being the guy that makes it all about himself and flaming the other side.

People like that ruin comment sections. Enough making it all about you, more discussion please.
Anonymous

Daley one last thing. If you didnt notice before Pasta posted this topic there were certain request from certain ppl on here to get you banned. I am not one of those, personally I love reading your insane comments because they make me laugh, one of the reasons I go on this site daily, that and Pasta has been running an exceptional site. Daley if you could just please gather the common sense and just stop all the hating and bantering on this site, at least just leave to a minimum. I think this is what Pasta was trying to point out to you here with this post.
WEAVER-LYNN03

FIRST OFF, JUST LIKE PASTA SAID HE IS GOING TO START LOOKING AT PEOPLE WHO ARE BAITING THESE ATTACKS LIKE DALEY. HE COMES ON HERE AND TRYS TO MAKE FICTION INTO FACTS. IF U DO A POLL ON HERE OF EVERYBODY INCLUDING ELITE FANS EVEN THEY WANT HIM GONE. HE DOESNT PRODUCE ANY GOOD ARGUMENTS JUST RAMBLING OUT HIS ASS.I MEAN I USE TO PLAY NBA LIVE WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER BUT NOW HAVE GONE TO 2K.BUT DALEY TAKES IT WAYYYYYYY TOO FARRRR. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT HIM AND THEN IT CAN GO BACK TO BEING THE WAY IT USED TO BE ON HERE. AND BY THE WAY I AM MAN ENOUGH THAT I HAVE SAID SOME PRETTY RUDE THINGS TO HIM BUT I FEEL AS THOUGH HE BAITED ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE INTO FIGHTING WITH HIM INSTEAD OF TALKING AND DISCUSSING VIDEO GAMES. I MEAN COME ON WE ARE TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES. THE KID NEEDS TO FIND SOME OTHER OUTLET IN LIFE.
WEAVER-LYNN03

FIRST OFF, JUST LIKE PASTA SAID HE IS GOING TO START LOOKING AT PEOPLE WHO ARE BAITING THESE ATTACKS LIKE DALEY. HE COMES ON HERE AND TRYS TO MAKE FICTION INTO FACTS. IF U DO A POLL ON HERE OF EVERYBODY INCLUDING ELITE FANS EVEN THEY WANT HIM GONE. HE DOESNT PRODUCE ANY GOOD ARGUMENTS JUST RAMBLING OUT HIS ASS.I MEAN I USE TO PLAY NBA LIVE WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER BUT NOW HAVE GONE TO 2K.BUT DALEY TAKES IT WAYYYYYYY TOO FARRRR. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT HIM AND THEN IT CAN GO BACK TO BEING THE WAY IT USED TO BE ON HERE. AND BY THE WAY I AM MAN ENOUGH THAT I HAVE SAID SOME PRETTY RUDE THINGS TO HIM BUT I FEEL AS THOUGH HE BAITED ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE INTO FIGHTING WITH HIM INSTEAD OF TALKING AND DISCUSSING VIDEO GAMES. I MEAN COME ON WE ARE TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES. THE KID NEEDS TO FIND SOME OTHER OUTLET IN LIFE.
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Logic

its pretty simple pasta if you would have gotten rid of daley long ago this post wouldnt have been needed
acid

Yeah it looks to me like daley in generally the focal point of the hate lol I think a large amount of that stems from his inability to let an issue go. While he does have a lot of valid points along the way, his arguments turn into what appears to be a forensics meet, each response from him more and more intense and seemingly never-ending. I think people just get pissed because he cares so much about something as non-substantial as a video game.

I mean we all care more about games than the average reader, if we take the time to comment that it, but this guy posts more words and characters in his comments than all of pasta’s articles combined.

Plus his inability to admit defeat on a certain topic, also causes people to feel antagonized by his brashness, hence leading to more personal attacks.
Hey Pasta

HAHAHA CHRIS HANDSOME!
Luke

hide the replies again.. all of the annoying comments are in the replies so if i don’t have to read those then i would be far more interested in the comment sections. all the annoying comments show up in some kind of reply.. so hiding the reply would at least make me happy, can’t speak for everybody else though. thats just my opinion.

don’t get rid of the reply, just hide them so you can choose to expand it if you like.
Luke

hide the replies again.. all of the annoying comments are in the replies so if i don’t have to read those then i would be far more interested in the comment sections. all the annoying comments show up in some kind of reply.. so hiding the reply would at least make me happy, can’t speak for everybody else though. thats just my opinion.

don’t get rid of the reply, just hide them so you can choose to expand it if you like.