NBA Elite 11 Officially Canceled

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Posted November 2nd, 2010 at 3:30 pm

It was only a matter of time before it was made official and today EA Sports announced that NBA Elite 11 has been completely canceled. Originally framed as a “delay” it was obvious the game would never see the light of day despite the company reportedly not having made any final decisions on its fate. When the news hit that the franchise was being shifted to the Tiburon studio it only cemented further that it was finished.

The question now arises as to what will be the future of NBA from EA Sports. There is a chance, one that would not surprise me at all, that there will be no NBA game released next year either. Also expect a name change to come. There is no way they can stick with NBA Elite.

It would be a mistake to assume that the new team housed at Tiburon is just going to polish up NBA Elite 11 and release it as NBA 12. That the studio move was made is an indication that the series is going to get a fresh start. That can’t be done in less than a year. Certainly a sub-par effort is not going to gain any ground in the market with the NBA 2K series the monster that it has become.

EA Sports is in a tough spot because they have completely lost consumer confidence and scrapped all brand loyalty and recognition in the process. It is going to take a long time for that to be rebuilt and rushing to do so won’t do any good.

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  • Richie

    pack it in ea and come back with nba live 13

  • http://twitter.com/Bgamer90 Bgamer90

    All of this because of hard8times lol…

    What a great example of the power of the internet.

    • Anonymous

      GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT!!!! I HOPE OTHER DEVELOPERS TAKE THE HINT AND STOP DROPPING THIS TRASH

  • aaand1

    can thank jesus bynum and pasta for forcing ea to deal with the piece of crap they were ready to rip people off with.

  • aaand1

    can thank jesus bynum and pasta for forcing ea to deal with the piece of crap they were ready to rip people off with.

  • Anonymous

    according to the article i read on G4’s site. The Tiburon team is supposed to “continue” where EA Canada left off. To me that would spell “Phase 2″ of the three phase plan. Also with having no elite 11 that means no support to have to worry about so quite possibly they could get into phase 3 stuff as well.

    In Peter Moores explanation about the game delay he referenced that the game wasn’t polished enough and that came straight from the fans as well as there own internal studies.

    I am pretty sure that RTP is the future of gaming and they will simply continue to further the tech along. There is no way they would go back to canned annimations. Even 2k fans are beginning to see the short comings of have “too many” canned annimation sequences. 2k11 is chock full of them and they can be a nuisance at times.

    • Bongo

      HAHA. EA starts from 0 – ZERO…. 2K will definetely own the next decade…

      Damn, cmon man, you’re still making 2K’s game bad…. Look, EA wasnt evev able to release a game because it was that fucking horrible. Please, why dont you get it man?

      2K is not perfect, but still a thousand times better than the crappy games that EA (has) produced since 06… Even 2K7 owns Elite 11 and Live 10 together…

      • LIVE235

        nba live 09 is the best basketball game ever made….choppy as 2k with it stop and go turbo button ,double step so you back court, have to watch ever stupid cut scene sucks and it sucks bad the only reason it sold well again this year was cuz of Jordan… the only thing 2k does well is baseball. again nba live 09 best basketball game ever made period

        • Nphillyk

          HA The fact that you said that Live 09 was the best basketball game ever made, and that the only thing 2K does well is baseball has destroyed whatever credibility you once had on this site. lmao @ you man.

        • Nphillyk

          HA The fact that you said that Live 09 was the best basketball game ever made, and that the only thing 2K does well is baseball has destroyed whatever credibility you once had on this site. lmao @ you man.

        • Bongo

          Live 09 best bball game ever made??? Are you serious????

          Only Live 10 was a playable game because they had the 2K Guru Mike Wang…

          EA’s basketball days are over man. I dont see how they should overcome this desastrous year…

        • http://www.facebook.com/inkpimp Jonathan Glapion

          yeah you just lost any credibility you may have had. You might want to do your homework, bro.

    • Bongo

      By the way, how are your ROSTER UPDATES going???? EA’s only improvment (if u can call it like that) made this year…

      • Anonymous

        Wow dude you are pretty dim aren’t you. If you took your head out of your ass you would know that I have been playing 2k11 and quite frankly I hate the controls of this game. This game is decent but the controls are overdone and not very user friendly. Gameplay wise I don’t see a whole lot of difference from 2k7,8,9,10.

        • Anonymous

          I can deal with the controls, but my biggest frustration is the several issues from past games that have not been addressed. The animations still lock me in, albeit not quite as much as last year, but it is still a problem. The commentary is still worse than Jim Carrey’s rendition of the most annoying sound in the world. And the morphing/clipping is just as bad as it ever was. The last one is the most game breaking of all, especially in My Player.

          • Anonymous

            Skopin, the lockin animations cant be dealt with, that is why EA went to RTP. If you are going to use canned animations then this is what you are going to get. You want all this “realistic looking” game play well 2k has given it to you but it comes at a price.

            You are going to have to put up with all these canned annimation sequences playing out in order for you to get the realistic look you want.

            If you take Elite, the complaints weren’t coming from the control aspect of the game. By and large it was coming from the “LOOKS” of the game. It EA had taken the time to polish up the game in addition to implementing the new control scheme, we would be playing Elite 11 right now.

          • http://www.facebook.com/inkpimp Jonathan Glapion

            I’d have to disagree about the “LOOKS” comment. It went deeper than that, bro. You are correct about the control scheme, kinda. People were VERY pappy with NBA LIVE 10’s controls but you can here it in damn near every video the complaints about why they were even tampered with from live 10. Elits shooting was a mess, you know the whole “user skill based.” SO what was that going to do for player DNA. This game fought against it’s self since conception. Plain and simple EA can’t do hoops and this attempt drove that home.

          • Anonymous

            You definitely have a point, but at the same time, ratings become frustrating at times. One of the most irritating things for me in previous games (both Live and 2k) are when I shoot an open shot and miss, even though I didn’t do anything wrong. It’s a crap shoot whether or not shots go in, and I actually liked what they wanted to do. I think they made it too easy though, and it turned a lot of people off to the idea. As far as dribbling, Elite’s dribble controls are much better than anything I’ve seen in 2k or past Live games.

          • Anonymous

            I completely agree. I’m sick of animations. Technology is evolving, and the consoles are capable of so much more. The only animations I want to see in a basketball game are jump shots and free throw routines. When it comes to player interaction and motion, they need to go, as they are too limiting. I would like to see what Natural Motion can do with basketball. They have their player physics/collision detection system, so if they could implement solid gameplay and AI to go along, it would be a real contender.

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ABLC757UG25E6RN7OECFE57JLA Daniel

            Funny, considering all EA did was stuff a physics scripting engine to the backend, and called it “physics”.

            Unless you can dynamically create new animations on the fly (Backbreaker), all you really have is a really advanced branching animation system that seemlessly pulls lots of animations together. Thats what EA has implemented.

          • Anonymous

            Um, that’s pretty much what I said. EA’s “physics” were clearly an unfinished product in the demo of Elite (at least I would hope they were unfinished), and 2k’s animations don’t even always flow seamlessly. In any case, I’m tired of scripted animations.

        • Anonymous

          I thought you were never going to buy any of 2K’s games ever ever ever?

          • Anonymous

            I say alot of things. I actually was playing Live 10 again, but playing the same game 2 years in a row got boring. I had a bunch of trades so i used them to get the game.

            I will admit that the game is better than in previous iterations but the controls still suck. Isomotion sucks huge balls. If 2k adapted to EA’s philosophy that the feet are controlled on the left stick and the ball is controlled on the right stick, then this game would be great.

            The controls are my biggest sticking point with this game. There are other issues in the game but by and large its the controls that I don’t like.

          • grf445

            You play the same game 2 years in a row several times. NBA live 09 and 10, Maddens 06-09,etc. Playing Live 10 again should not feel any different

          • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ABLC757UG25E6RN7OECFE57JLA Daniel

            I used to feel the same way about Isomotion, but after doing My Player as a PG, I’ve gotten pretty good at it. Its different, but has its advantages. [Hint: Use Absolute controls, that helps so bloody much its not funny they didn't add it as an option sooner]

        • Daley dumbest of the fan boys

          couldnt help myself just like you cant help yourself from being an arrogant idiot, as usual you are clueless thats pretty much it you post like a clueless fool over and over and over again thanks for the laughs

          • Anonymous

            Children will be children. Try being a man and post under your actual screen name you coward.

          • Classic!

            LOL so he replies like… wait for it… an arrogant idiot who is clueless damn this shit is hilarious!!!! like daley7199 is his full real name or something you cant make this shit up keep the laughs coming

        • Bongo

          WOOOOW. No differnce in gameplay between 2K8, 9, 10 and 2K11???

          Well, in your opinion there is no difference because you have neverplayed 2K7 and so on….

          The controlls are userfriendly…

    • http://www.facebook.com/inkpimp Jonathan Glapion

      It’s funny Peter Moore says it’s because the game wasn’t “polished.” There isn’t enough wax in the world to polish any aspect or even concept in direction they were going with this game. No one has a problem with real RTP, but as you see that does not an will not save a game. I’m okay with animations as long as they add something to the experience which it does in 2K11. In the PAST it has been a issue in 2K but now being able to branch out things are a nice balance…. in short, where Elite didn’t remotely resemble the NBA experience 2K11 NAILED it.

      It would be yet another mistake for the new studio to act as if they can take this on as the 2nd phase. If anything they need to reference the game they got right in many respects NBA LIVE 10, not Elite. Sure work on RTP but actually make it feel like RTP…. go back to animations, yes i said it. The problem with EA’s animation weren’t the simple fact of them being canned they didn’t have a large enough library of them…. like 2K.

      If this game isn’t rebuilt from the ground up then whats the point of moving the title in the first place. As a consumer I don’t want to hear anymore Phase 1,2,3 or anything from EA. Take two years to build a SERIOUS simulation basketball game. Stop acting like face can’t and won’t figure out complex controls (ie. take advantage of all those buttons on the controller) we really aren’t that stupid. I’m all for simplicity but layering is whats needed.

      They need to make NEW player models with a variety of posters (not the constipation stance they’ve had for far to long). and realize all the little things matter. He’ll talk to the Fifa team for god sake.

      • Nphillyk

        You’re absolutely right, but other thing they need to do is actually hire real basketball people. And I’m not speaking of developers either. They need people that can come in and give information on player tendencies, basketball fundamentals, etc, etc. This in my opinion is the area in which 2K has the bigger lead. Not graphics, or polish, or animations, but actually understanding the game of basketball. Essentially, all of the little things that add up to a more authentic product. Hopefully somehow EA can get back on track, though it looks to be quite the uphill climb

  • Anonymous

    according to the article i read on G4’s site. The Tiburon team is supposed to “continue” where EA Canada left off. To me that would spell “Phase 2″ of the three phase plan. Also with having no elite 11 that means no support to have to worry about so quite possibly they could get into phase 3 stuff as well.

    In Peter Moores explanation about the game delay he referenced that the game wasn’t polished enough and that came straight from the fans as well as there own internal studies.

    I am pretty sure that RTP is the future of gaming and they will simply continue to further the tech along. There is no way they would go back to canned annimations. Even 2k fans are beginning to see the short comings of have “too many” canned annimation sequences. 2k11 is chock full of them and they can be a nuisance at times.

  • Shaquille_shaw

    Lemme hear it Pasta! I wana hear you say it!!!

  • Anonymous

    lol EA

  • Saucemoney01

    HAHA.

  • joel0078

    You know, it really irks me that the whole time elite 11 was in development, the development team repeatedly deflected all criticism and went back to the same old “just wait and see what we’re talking about, it can’t be understood w/out playing the game” crap. They were arrogant and over confident. It was obvious to me as soon as I saw lead developers always manipulating critiques to make it all about these “revolutionary controls” that were gonna blow our minds. Well guess what? You failed. This team needs to be totally overhauled. Go back to the Live 10 engine, change the damn name back to NBA LIVE and pick up where Live 10 left off. That’s your best bet. Good luck with Live 12. Although now that 2K has combined the best parts of live with the best parts of 2k, I don’t think EA stands much a chance in ever catching up, unless 2K takes a giant step in the wrong direction.

    • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

      Yep, rubbed me the wrong way from the beginning and definitely set off red flags.

      • Hungryandrew

        Which way did you prefer him to rubb you? lol

  • JB4lif23

    smh they should’ve never tried to fix sumthing that wasnt broken….now look where it lead them….i wish that franchise the best of luck….

  • http://twitter.com/AtomicGeekBoy The Atomic Geek Boy

    Padre,

    Not surprising that Elite ’11 was canceled. The move to Tiburon hopefully will infuse some life into EA’s NBA franchise which has been slipping further down the drain for several years now. Moving to a completely overhauled control scheme after Live ’10 showed some signs of progress was, in my humble opinion, a bad move.

    However, EA has done the right thing by killing Elite ’11. Maybe by focusing on making a game that is less about flash and hype (read: gimmicks) and more about getting the game to play right, EA would be on the right track. As it stands, they have gone back to the drawing board yet again and desperately need to focus on delivering an NBA game rooted in quality rather than settling for quantity.

  • Vlpmonty

    They should release it on PS4 and XBOX 720. Spend the next 4 or 5 years developing an NBA game on the next consoles… get the leg up on the competition.

    Or make a NCAA basketball game… ow how I miss taking Temple to the Final 4.

    • Nphillyk

      Really? I am a TU alum. Though I must admit there were a few years that I played with….eh hem…St. Joes.

      • Vlpmonty

        you sold out, homie :(

    • Nphillyk

      Really? I am a TU alum. Though I must admit there were a few years that I played with….eh hem…St. Joes.

  • Lonnie

    the best thing for EA to do is make another ncaa game…take a few years and make the best collage hoops game they can..it will sell because right now 2k is not making any and there is a void there,with 3 or 4 years passing with no collage hoops game,i think gamers would be ready to buy one and if it gets good reviews they could tweak the problems with it and re-enter the nba..that’s what i would do if i was running EA sports..that’s their only hope the way i see things..

  • Vlpmonty

    NBA Elite got Shanahaned :)

    my poor Skins, will they ever put it together…

  • Anonymous

    EA has killed basketball all together first NCAA and now the NBA. F-off

  • Saucemoney01

    EA makes crappy basketball games.

  • Gamerz

    Not a bad take but i respectfully disagree about it taking a long time to rebuild. This is video games…make one great game and all is forgiven and gamers will take notice. Then the year after they can be at top again…who knows.

    But just look at Need for Speed. That was pretty much dead like what? 2-3 years ago? Now Im frothing at the mouth waiting for HP this month.

    Not incredibly optimistic but it is possible. We’ll see……….

  • NoFro904

    Daley needs to be on Suicide Watch

    • Daleydeathwatch

      Boozergate!!!! Jesus Bynum!!! Canned animations (voice sounding like dude from Backbreaker)!!!

    • Daleydeathwatch

      Boozergate!!!! Jesus Bynum!!! Canned animations (voice sounding like dude from Backbreaker)!!!

    • Daleydeathwatch

      Boozergate!!!! Jesus Bynum!!! Canned animations (voice sounding like dude from Backbreaker)!!!

  • sheredia

    releasing nba elite 11 would have lost them money…..that’s the bottom line. now they are just cutting their losses. they had a good thing going with nba live 10. why they just didn’t build off of that, i have no idea…..now it’s back to the drawing board.

    • sheredia

      we all knew it was going to be cancelled, so too surprising. they lost too much ground. diehard fans should be upset to be lead to believe otherwise. releasing free updates for nba live 10 along with uniform updates and arena updates wouldn’t be a bad move at this point……

  • http://twitter.com/shogunoflive Wynston Williams

    The licensing deal with dictate whether or not they release a game next year, however I hope they don’t It going to take a least 18 month of development to get that series on track in the hands of a new dev team. People do need to keep in mind everything will not be thrown away regardless of when the next game comes out. Live 10 had some good things going for it, and the series needed to build on those things as well as add more depth.

    Also I thought it was a horrible decision from the very start to change the name of the series. Love or Hate the Live series over the last few years, the name recognition can’t be disputed.

    The next game needs to focus on 5 on 5 SIM gameplay, with DEEP animation branches.

  • Daley SHOULD commit suicide

    without wasting my time responding to daley’s delusional arrogant idiotic comments, how is this news? I’m pretty sure everybody knew when they called off the initial release this game was toast… not only that 2k has been repeatedly reviewed as one of the best sports game of this generation…?

  • Rob

    if only this was madden

  • LIVE235

    nba live 09 is the best basketball game ever made….choppy as 2k with it stop and go turbo button ,double step so you back court, have to watch ever stupid cut scene sucks and it sucks bad the only reason it sold well again this year was cuz of Jordan… the only thing 2k does well is baseball. again nba live 09 best basketball game ever made period

    • Saucemoney01

      Daley is that you?

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  • Nphillyk

    You were spot on with your analysis and predictions of NBA Elite from the very start. I applaud your efforts on this one Pasta. You were 100% right.

  • GTH

    Pasta, how about doing a story on EA’s financials and investor conference call yesterday? Lots of juicy information there.

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/234244-electronic-arts-q2-2011-earnings-call-transcript

    http://seekingalpha.com/article/234244-electronic-arts-q2-2011-earnings-call-transcript?part=qanda

  • Hungryandrew

    Icalled this months ago….NBA…..DELETE!!! Elite 11, is finally taking its long overdue DIRT NAP!!

  • Anonymous

    EA should just quit making Basketball games period it’s a wrap by the time they get something 2k will be to far ahead period!

  • Buck_Foston_

    How do you know Pasta they can’t make this game in a year ?

    EA barely has a conscience I still can’t believe they want us to pay $50 for NBA Jam after they were going to give it to us free, regardless if they added some fluff to the game. The game has what 5 players per team weak. To me that is another kick to the groin. Elite’s failure is just sad and embarrasing.

  • NELL86

    they need to canceled madden too

  • http://www.facebook.com/inkpimp Jonathan Glapion

    This is proof it’s not enough for a lead producer to surround himself with people that have so called knowledge of the game. EA needs a producer who have the knowledge and passion for the game they are trying to produce, then a team who share the same passion. I’ve been saying it for years now that EA Canada would never pull this game out of the hole they put it in.

    Hopefully the higher ups at EA see the power of community now.

    • Keith.

      The higher ups at EA only see the power of paid DLC and other Digital Growth. Don’t kid yourself.

  • jusmegamer

    EA and 2K need to sit down like men and come to a decision good for all gamers. 2K gives up the MLB license and lets EA get back to making MVP Baseball and EA give up making NBA games. EA could then practice there basketball game making skills with NCAA hoops if they care to. I know this will never happen though because both companies are made up of too many men not just one man.

  • joe/mike

    just like they updated the the xbox360 desktop nov 1st two days ago.they should update the graphics ex with NBA LIVE 10 ,achievements as well.I bought 2k11 ,the control’s suck i dont care what control setting you have it on.you in the game n the ontrols dont feel right so you go back in then change them again.its dissapointing great graphics but contols suck.I still like NBA LIVE 10.contols are comfortable nore suitable n make sense.

  • joe/mike

    2k 11 contols are very,very,very irritating no matter what control setting its on.seems like when your on offence the defence is like practically glued to you.and the off ball control sucks ,very slow .its right about the off part.

  • joe/mike

    nba live 10 controls was the total package(they made sense)if they wanted to do something new add photo gamer face,add yourself in the game ,get drafted to a team.bring back the 3point shoot out,dunk contest.if you can do it in tiger woods 8,9,10,11 .you should be able to do that in live.instead of using their faces they have ex to create a player.a change would to have yourself in the game.and no other basketball game has that feature .come on Ea you did it golf ,so why not basketball?

  • Joeyland

    When the going gets tough….EA bags it, or buys the exclusive, but never battles.

  • Joeyland

    When the going gets tough….EA bags it, or buys the exclusive, but never battles.

  • mike

    So when 2K was making a great NFL game, EA’s idea was to secure the license since they knew 2K would only get better as years went on. With this news 2K should do what EA did and lock them out of making any NBA games by securing the license like EA did with the NFL License, and let’s see how EA Sports would feel, oh wait since they are the ones being locked out of a license they would probably sue since it’s not them locking out someone else.

    • Nphillyk

      They can’t, unlike the greedy No Fun League the NBA won’t allow an exclusivity deal. Which in turn is actually better for gamers because we get more options with the added competition. I hate the fact that 2K can’t at least try to make an NFL game, though I am hearing some rumors about them purchasing the license in 2013. I know that they will at least make an attempt at doing so.

  • Shaquille_shaw

    How do you feel about this Pasta??

  • Giantjedi

    Good thing EA didn’t buy the NBA license or else it would be like Madden…

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  • 2K Football God

    The same would’ve happen to Madden if not for the criminal exclusive license…Fuck EA!!!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ABLC757UG25E6RN7OECFE57JLA Daniel

    “It would be a mistake to assume that the new team housed at Tiburon is just going to polish up NBA Elite 11 and release it as NBA 12.”

    I laughed; this IS the same studio which has added…what…to Madden over the past 5 years?

    I promise, there will be some form of NBA 12. Its EA after all.

  • joe/mike

    couldn’t take nba 2k11 had to trade in for Monopoly Streets.

  • St3pheN

    so will the soundtrack leak? thats the only reason i wanted the game to come out

  • Aldhksg

    ea give up basketball you made it big w/ baseball get the baseball rights back!

  • BringBackCollegeVideoGame

    Make a god dam college game ea.

  • Davelane

    damn now we gotta stick with 2k i want elite

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