Initial Kinect for Xbox 360 Impressions

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Posted November 5th, 2010 at 4:40 pm

Only one day in with Kinect and it has been a surprisingly enjoyable experience. This comes from someone who has not bought into the concept of motion-based gaming previously. The question certainly remains whether it will have the desired replayability factor but I’m confident enough at this point to have decided to sell my Wii. I’ve kept that console around just in case a compelling game comes along but having Kinect makes it feel unnecessary and obsolete.

I know the price has been a point of contention at $150 but I don’t find that to be so bad. Especially when you consider a full setup for Rock Band or Guitar Hero (amongst other peripherals) have cost more and they only function for a single game series. Kinect has a ton of potential going forward. I feel pretty confident in saying that a baseball game could be a big success but as of now there are no dedicated traditional sports games available.

The hardware was easy to set up and the process only took a few minutes. The biggest thing to consider with Kinect is the amount of space available. If two people are going to play at the same time that means about eight feet of clear space in front of the TV will be necessary. I had to rearrange things a bit but I have things situated well now. If it is just one person playing about six feet is probably sufficient. Also if you live in an apartment that isn’t ground floor you can pretty much forget about Kinect because you’ll be making too much noise jumping around.

Activating Kinect at start up requires either a waving motion or the use of the voice command “Xbox – Kinect”. The Kinect Hub then opens up and this is where the motion can be utilized. Kinect does not allow for you to navigate the regular Xbox 360 dashboard at this time.

The responsiveness is quite good and the camera tracks impressively well. This is the case in the Kinect areas and in the games so far. My arm did start to get tired though given that any selections made through navigation have to be held in place for a few seconds so it knows that’s what you want to do.

Better than the motion navigation though is the use of the voice commands. Kinect has several microphones which do an excellent job of picking up sound. Simply saying Xbox will pull up a list of options for what can be said. For example, in the Kinect Hub, saying “Xbox – Next” will move it to the next screen or “Xbox – ESPN” will open up the ESPN3 feature. Even within those areas the voice commands can continue to be utilized. Netflix is missing from the Kinect Hub but my understanding is they’re working on getting that in there soon.

One disappointment though is that the voice commands can’t be used like that within a game. Several times now I’ve wanted to go to the dashboard from in-game and had to grab a controller to do so. It would also be nice to pause the games or pull up the Xbox Guide just through voice commands. I suspect that will be something that gets added in at a later date.

I’ve been impressed at how the camera recognizes me when I walk in front of it and automatically pulls up my personal profile. If someone else walks up it either will recognize them if they’ve played and set up a profile or assume it is someone new. In games that allow it a second person can just jump in at any time and start playing which is pretty neat. I have not tried the video chat feature yet but have heard that the video and audio quality are quite good.

Thought I’d drop a few thoughts on two games I’ve been spending time with, Kinect Adventures and Kinectimals. I’ll be doing detailed write-ups in the coming days for Kinect Sports and MotionSports.

Kinect Adventures is the game that comes packed in with the hardware making it basically the “Wii Sports” of Kinect in that regard. There are five different mini-games. All have initial appeal and are quite fun especially when played by more than one person or spectated in person. Kinect Adventures even has online play which I have yet to attempt. Overall it seems to provide a good demonstration of different things the games can do with the hardware.

That being said I can’t speak to whether the fun will last. I suspect like Wii Sports it will fade with Kinect Adventures and possibly quickly. It is essentially just a collection of mini-games. However I think Kinect Adventures will have some lasting appeal at least in group situations.

The favorite mini-games seem to be Rallyball and River Rush. Rallyball is fast paced which means it ends up being frantic and in many cases more about luck than anything. But because of the pace that gets overlooked and it remains fun. River Rush is the river rafting that has been seen in a lot of videos promoting Kinect.

The 1st party games offer uploading to the Kinect Share website. Right now those are Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports. At various points the camera will take pictures of the game being played or record portions to put together for highlight videos. They are low quality captures but as they are just meant to be shared as a social feature that isn’t a big deal.

Living Statues can be pretty hilarious too, they are offered as sort of a reward after completing each adventure mode. They are wacky looking animals that you record voice and movement too and then the voice playback is distorted for the character.Those videos can then be watched and even uploaded to the Kinect Share website as well.

Kinectimals is a game more intended for kids, and I can say from experience that it is a huge hit with the intended age range. I watched an eight year old girl play that for three hours straight last night before forcing her off. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her be captivated on one single thing for that long a time plus she was burning off a ton of energy int he process.

The game opens with the adopting of a cat and then it basically becomes just playing with the cat and completing different tasks along the way to gain points and discover new areas of the island. I was surprised at how the various tasks were expanding, such as using a toy car that the cat is sitting on to knock over certain things that have been set up. It basically turned into a racing game for that with the steering wheel on screen to turn and pushing the wheel forward to accelerate and pulling it back to go backwards.

Haven’t really gotten far enough with it yet to say how solid it is as a game (I’ve read it actually gets fleshed out as progression takes place) but it definitely has charm. Kinectimals along with Kinect Sports and Dance Central seem to be the consensus for best launch games.

Overall I still need to spend more time experimenting with Kinect but I’m impressed. I went in having decided to keep an open mind and not really have certain expectations whether they be low or high. The fun being had right now is something that can’t be overlooked, but whether Kinect lasts will depend on the software that comes out. The hardware though is very intriguing and hopefully improvements are rolled out in the future that take advantage of it even further outside of games.

  • double b’s

    I feel as tho it wont have a long lasting appeal. Kinda like the wii was to me. Its a very cool system and i see where they are headed, i just dont believe the games create a fixation, that would make you want to stay playing for a long period of time as a MLB the show or NCAA football would. It seems that you could mess around for a month maybe, but would would fade back to the old basic style of gaming.

  • http://twitter.com/mattdabearsfan Matthew Duncan

    seems like something i would try at one of my friends houses or something but other than that i really play games to sit down and relax, thats why i didnt get the wii but it looks like it can be fun

  • http://twitter.com/mattdabearsfan Matthew Duncan

    seems like something i would try at one of my friends houses or something but other than that i really play games to sit down and relax, thats why i didnt get the wii but it looks like it can be fun

  • http://twitter.com/mattdabearsfan Matthew Duncan

    seems like something i would try at one of my friends houses or something but other than that i really play games to sit down and relax, thats why i didnt get the wii but it looks like it can be fun

  • JoeCB91

    I’m not impressed by the games on it.

  • JoeCB91

    I’m not impressed by the games on it.

  • Quan

    Naw Wii is the originator of motion this gen.

  • Quan

    Naw Wii is the originator of motion this gen.

  • Lds188

    You can pause games by placing your right arm at your side and your left arm at about 8:00. It will bring up a Kinect pause menu where you can go to the Kinect hub and eventually the dashboard.

    • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

      Thanks, I knew about the pausing method but didn’t go deep enough to find the dashboard option.

  • Anonymous

    I think where Kinect will retain its value is through its multiple uses. As a gaming device, it will be a relief to play a game without the fear of having a controller slip from your hand and wreck your 50″ HD TV.

    Kinect offers so much possibility that the Wii never did. To increase the Wii’s replayability Nintendo had to add another add-on (balance board). With Kinect, the ability to communicate, scan items and do other things besides play games will expand the life of Kinect and the 360.

    I agree that the launch titles are a little thin but if the next wave of games rumored to have Kinect-ability then I believe that playing games in alternate ways without a controller will be limitless…

  • Anonymous

    I think where Kinect will retain its value is through its multiple uses. As a gaming device, it will be a relief to play a game without the fear of having a controller slip from your hand and wreck your 50″ HD TV.

    Kinect offers so much possibility that the Wii never did. To increase the Wii’s replayability Nintendo had to add another add-on (balance board). With Kinect, the ability to communicate, scan items and do other things besides play games will expand the life of Kinect and the 360.

    I agree that the launch titles are a little thin but if the next wave of games rumored to have Kinect-ability then I believe that playing games in alternate ways without a controller will be limitless…

    • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

      Watching my brother play bowling and beach volleyball, I’ll say it is a big relief to not be worrying about something flying out of his hand into my TV lol.

  • Anonymous

    Pasta,

    I failed to mention or ask. How is the response? Many of the stories leading up to Kinect’s release was the issue with lag. Any issues?

    • http://twitter.com/BryQan BryanSimek

      I’ve had almost no lag. The only time I have lag is when my 2 year old son runs in front of me. But even then it’s not enough to hurt gameplay so far.

      Let me add the love for Kinectimals for children. I bought the LE version that comes with a stuffed animal you can scan into the game and my son loves that he can play with Kitty on TV and snuggle up with Kitty in bed. The joy he’s gotten from this game alone is worth the 200 I spent on the Kinect and Kinectimals.

      • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

        Damn I missed out on the LE, that would’ve worked out well.

        Definitely agree on your last point. I never saw a response like that to any Wii game.

        • http://twitter.com/BryQan BryanSimek

          Pasta – FYI Burger King is also having a deal where if you buy a kids meal, you get a Kinectimal toy that you can scan into the game and then your child and the Kinectimal in the game can play with the same toy. Again MS just needs to keep pumping out Kinectimal stuff and they’ll make a mint off of me alone at this rate

    • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

      Very slight to the point where its practically not noticeable. Adjusted to that quickly, basically like playing an online game that is smooth but there is still that initial feeling out of it. Though it can vary from game to game (from what I’ve read avoid Sonic).

  • Anonymous

    Pasta,

    I failed to mention or ask. How is the response? Many of the stories leading up to Kinect’s release was the issue with lag. Any issues?

  • Anonymous

    Good thoughts, I agree with you on almost everything!

  • Riley Johnson

    The games coming out for this DO NOT make it worth the $150 price tag.

  • NoFro904

    The only bad things ive seen about the Kinect is from people that havent played it…

    • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

      Yeah, though it still won’t be for everybody, I don’t think it can be judged by just watching videos or other people play it. Have to try it out to understand its appeal.

      • Dbowden

        Pasta I really enjoy playing Kinect its the best motion gaming experience.

  • Moneymayweather

    Fail! No video of pasta using kinect.

  • BIG DADDY LANE

    I LIKE IT ALOT

  • TIMtationX

    I agree that the voice recognition/ dashboard operations are pretty neat, and if they do manage to implement the object scanning that will be a big step forward, but my question about Kinect is how they plan to make other games besides the “stand in front and wave your arms around” type.
    Even the “hardcore” games that were shown in Japan awhile back will probably be on rails, because there’s no way to move your character forward/backwards because you’re just standing there. In Kinect Sports where you’re doing hurdles and running track is almost exactly like the NES Powerpad games. Adrenaline Misfits and the Sonic Riders game are basically the same, because again, there won’t be many ways you can control Kinect games. And once the hype fades on the casual games, there won’t be any other types of games to fall back on. The Wii had that luxury (Mario, Zelda, etc) Because of that I feel that the games will eventually take a backseat to the other Kinect functions.

    • Anonymous

      Forza 4 will be Kinect-ready where you use your arms to steer and accelerate. Also, there is a Star Wars game on the horizon. A number of developers, from what I read, are looking into utilizing this add-on. I wouldn’t expect to see any big franchises using this (COD, Halo, etc.) but you never know.

      Again, I think Kinect will expand far beyond the use for games…And, as I have stated several times, the ability to play familiar games without having to hold or stand on a controller is a huge bonus…

      • Timtationx

        If people a choice in Forza to drive using Kinect or a standard controller, nobody would choose holding their arms out to steer trust me. And yes there’s a star wars game coming, but it will be an on rails game, which means you wont be controlling where your character goes.

      • Timtationx

        If people a choice in Forza to drive using Kinect or a standard controller, nobody would choose holding their arms out to steer trust me. And yes there’s a star wars game coming, but it will be an on rails game, which means you wont be controlling where your character goes.

  • http://www.freexboxconsole.co.uk Free xbox 360

    It looks good, don’t know if I’ll be getting it though..

  • Joeyland

    just go outside and have a catch, why game if u gotta move?

  • Sweetsauce01

    I have no desire for camera based games. No Kinect for me. I’m sure it’s cool for the casual gamers. Or people that really don’t play games. It is targeted for those folks.

    • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

      I would’ve said the same thing before I started playing it. It may be intended for those people but even for more experienced gamers it seems impressions have been very positive.

      • Dbowden

        Indeed Pasta and Im a 300 pound hardcore gamer. If you trully love gaming you should welcome this genre and accept it for what it is.If its not for you dont play it but dont hate on it because its Sony MS or Nintendo. I am enjoying the Kinect and I wish it success.New technology ensures new gaming expeiences.

  • Mykal94

    These things are more like party games to me, which is why I never bought a Wii. I would feel like such a tool hopping around in front of my TV alone. It’s great to entertain, but other than that I don’t see much use or value.

    If I were to buy a motion-gaming system, the Playstation Move looks like the way to go for me at least. It looks like the most serious and least novelty of the three (Wii, Move, and Kinect) and I can see it being the most well developed in the future (ie. for sports, shooters, racing….)

    • cabrillo24

      So you don’t have any of these motion based systems, yet you want to comment on what appears to be the best? I have all 3, I can tell you, the Kinect has taken this to a whole new level.

      • Anonymous

        i think he’s saying that Move adapts the best to the “hardcore” games. If you think kinect has taken it to a “whole new level” you’re fooling yourself. How would you play a shooter without buttons? The kinect is fun as hell right now, but It gets boring pretty quickly unless you have a bunch of people. I don’t see me playing this alone. I’m sure there will be some really fun games for it, but it will all be party games.

  • Def

    I don’t want to run in place… this is not for me

  • Def

    I don’t want to run in place… this is not for me

  • Sean

    The games are OK, but I am simply blown away by the technology behind the Kinect. This coming from someone who has never really gotten into peripherals. It’s intuitive and amazingly responsive. I truly feel like the person in the game. If they can put together some good games for it, it will be a blast.

  • Abpats

    yes a baseball game would be a major hit.

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