IGN Calls NBA Elite Cancellation Courageous

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Posted November 20th, 2010 at 6:00 pm

Typically I don’t bother with articles written about developments in the sports gaming world from the mainstream media sites, however this instance just couldn’t be ignored in its audacity. It appears IGN is trying to assist EA Sports in the image rebuilding process of their NBA franchise. It reads like a PR piece prompted by EA and ends up doing readers a disservice.

I caught up with Andrew Wilson, head of worldwide development for EA Sports to talk about the decision to cancel NBA Elite. Wilson told me, “We’re proud that we made the choice to not just put something out there that wasn’t good.”….”Ultimately,” Wilson admits, “it was just going to be a bad game.”

It is interesting to see how openly they admit that Elite was going to be a “bad game”, after having touted it for months on end all the way up to the day it was pulled. The community was told to just wait and play it, that the greatness couldn’t be discovered just from watching videos. All of that is being admitted as a lie here.

Rarely do we celebrate a publisher’s nobility. But EA should be commended, not mocked, for pulling the plug on NBA Elite 11. I am certain there was a lot more to the decision than just wanting to avoid releasing a bad game, but there’s little doubt that quality matters to some of the decision-makers at EA Sports.

Bullshit. EA knew what they had on their hands. They had been shielding it from the public for a reason. Despite that the game went gold and copies were being produced. They were fully planning to release the game. It wasn’t until the demo arrived and the wave of negativity and glitch videos became overwhelming to where they were forced to make the dramatic decision. At that point EA realized they’d be doing more long term harm to themselves if they released it. Purely a business decision. It was not done to ‘save’ consumers from purchasing a sub-par product. Framing it that way is absurd.

Not many companies would have pulled the plug. After signing Kevin Durant as its cover athlete, investing considerable money and resources into building a brand new NBA title, and already investing in marketing buys, it couldn’t have been cheap to axe NBA Elite.

Releasing a sub-par product, particularly against an excellent competitor, would have damaged the brand beyond repair. Elite was never going to sell many copies anyway…we’re talking maybe 10% of what NBA 2K11 sold. However what it would have made back pales in comparison to what would be lost if the NBA franchise had to be scrapped completely. More money was on the line in the future than immediately.

Regardless of the outcome, EA should be commended for holding back something that wasn’t going to be any good. I don’t say it often, but these guys did right by gamers and ate the loss. If only more companies had that kind of courage, this industry might continue to see real progress towards being more than just a revenue driver.

Sigh…

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  • It took EA a lot of guts to not release a game that would get a score of less than 60 on metacritic!

    /sarcasm

  • It took EA a lot of guts to not release a game that would get a score of less than 60 on metacritic!

    /sarcasm

    • Anonymous

      Yeah this obviously a paid article by EA

      • Sdot

        DAM PASTA KEPT IT 100

        DIDN’T KNO U HAD A TRILL SIDE LOL

  • Nos

    IGN, what do you expect, theyve always been paid off by gaming companies.

  • Nos

    IGN, what do you expect, theyve always been paid off by gaming companies.

  • Eatshit

    At least EA had the balls to cancel it, before this year 2K has been releasing the same damn game every year…

    • Rockchisler2000

      If they canceled it BEFORE the demo then that would have been impressive.

  • Eatshit

    At least EA had the balls to cancel it, before this year 2K has been releasing the same damn game every year…

  • CMU Chips

    One of the worst articles I’ve ever seen. I don’t normally hold IGN to a high standard, but this is ridiculous even for them.

  • CMU Chips

    One of the worst articles I’ve ever seen. I don’t normally hold IGN to a high standard, but this is ridiculous even for them.

  • Bongo

    Now they celebrate themselves for canceling the game? Poor EA dudes…

  • Bongo

    Now they celebrate themselves for canceling the game? Poor EA dudes…

  • Rich

    I like how they admit they were going to release a bad game and charge $60 for it. If they were canceling it because it was a bad game they wouldnt have waited until the last minute.

  • Rich

    I like how they admit they were going to release a bad game and charge $60 for it. If they were canceling it because it was a bad game they wouldnt have waited until the last minute.

  • Will

    Great post Pasta, I like how you are know starting to post how you really feel about EA’s games. Because lately they have been putting out crap.

    • I enjoy many EA Sports games, though some have definitely fallen flat as of late. Ive always felt I held all the games to a similar standard. I just cant stand PR spin, and in this case that is coming from what is supposed to be an independent gaming source.

  • Anonymous

    Well well well EA admitted there f–k up and they should and be completely ashamed of themselves for this. So ya’ll lied to the Live fans and you expect us to come back to yall sense 2k put 2k11 out do yall really think us the fans are that stupid opps sorry let me take that back there are some dummys who will get Madden still but the basketball i dont think so and i am a Live person for life but ya’ll hurt the Live community badly so good luck cause EA is going to need it this is your boy Prime.

    • Anonymous

      You make it sound like 2k11 is great.

    • Anonymous

      You make it sound like 2k11 is great.

      • Hahaohwow

        You sound like you’re enjoying Elite on the iPhone.

        • Anonymous

          Not at all. I don’t even have an iPhone, and even if I did, I wouldn’t have bought Elite.

      • Anonymous

        2K11 is great big guy………best sports game ever made last time I checked.

        • Anonymous

          You must have very low standards. 2k11 is riddled with problems.

          • Bongo

            Which game is not riddled with problems??? Whats your problem with 2K? The fact, that NBA TODAY 2.0 didnt work well or what???

          • Anonymous

            I know other games have problems, but not ones that are as detrimental to gameplay and presentation both as 2k11.
            http://www.youtube.com/user/HABI7A7
            There are several videos posted on this channel that show examples of the problems I have with 2k11.

          • Anonymous

            2k11 has its shares of problems & without looking at any videos, my current list is:

            1. A.I. – It is very frustrating to play nba 2k nd know that any minute the computer is gonna start a run and become invincible. Also your A.I. teamates can’t do anything. its like the lack footwork, a soul, everything…I do have to say they improved on it this year but still they’re not the greatest in help support.

            2. Passing – The passing is very high risk this year because of all the steals nd tipped pass but what gets me mad about it is that even the simplest passes get deflected. It’s they made it this year that you HAVE to use the icon & right stick passing. I’ve learned to get better at passing & make smarter passes but still. c’mon 2k!

            3. Shooting – This has been a problem for years. Pretty simple actually. You get wide open or have a defender about 10 – 15 ft. away from you & you still miss the shoot.I pretty much gave up on complaining on this, im just waiting for the developers to fix this problem.

            4. My Player – Don’t know what to say about this. It seems like it got worse & better at the same time. lol. You start off with a 36/37 overall player which is a far cry from last year’s. The development progress with your player is crazy slow. But they added features such as request trades, pick who you think should get traded, endorsements, sneaker deals & press conferences.

            5. NBA Blacktop – Seriously?

            6. Spacing – The player spacing in this game is horrible. Players get way too close with each other, thus, leading to lots of “bumping” & a lot of contested shots from the A.I.

            7. Player customization – Jeez louise are we ever gonna get free control of our players? Tattoos, hair types, headbands (multiple colors & placements such as the side, the back, & the front of the head & also for the love of god can we do something about this awful face models? lol i swear these are some of the worst face models for created players that i have ever seen.

            Other than that thats about it in my eyes as far as problems with the game goes. The gameplay is greatly improved, the presentation is top notch, the commentary really sounds in snyc this year. The Jordan Challenges were a nice breath of fresh air. The franchise looks improved also but i still think they need to fix up a couple things & add just a couple more lil things into it. And I would love for them to do something about the create a team. It’s been in a comatose state for years.

          • do you still feel that way after the patch

          • Anonymous

            i havent gotten the chance to try it out yet. still at work. smh..

          • Anonymous

            i havent gotten the chance to try it out yet. still at work. smh..

          • Bongo

            You know what the difference is between a great game and a average game?? Great games have thousands of haters, just like you… Thats why it seems like the game isnt great, but acutally it is of course…

          • Anonymous

            Please explain what makes NBA 2k11 great.

          • Anonymous

            And yet not one of these post includes a sports game thats better then NBA 2K11……..how convenient………….so if you can’t name a better sports game, doesn’t that make it the “greatest”???……………………and no, NHL 11, FIFA 11, and MLB 10 are not BETTER then NBA 2K11.

            Here’s why:

            FIFA 11 – Manager mode is brutally generic

            MLB 10 – Online is dare I say, worse then 2K

            NHL 11 – It’s hockey. sorry. not really though.

            Everything in LIFE is FLAWED in one way or another. I feel bad for those of you that can’t enjoy things for what they are. Be reasonable, (everyone’s doing it) and consider that we’re talking about a pre-patch game developed on a 1 year dev cycle here.

          • Anonymous

            The Show’s online is one single mode of the game that doesn’t work well. It doesn’t directly effect the gameplay of every mode. NBA 2k11’s problems are evident in every single mode because they are in the actual game. The morphing/clipping, the lack of ball awareness, the bad AI, it has an impact on every game in every mode. Again, I haven’t played FIFA, so I can’t comment on whether it’s good or bad, but you mentioned a single mode, which is, again, not an impact on every game.

          • Anonymous

            I love the gameplay in NBA 2K11 so I guess our opinions cancel each other out in the universe……. Again, do you know of a basketball video game thats got better gameplay….or controls……or presentation………or retro teams………..or an association mode………..or a my player mode……………..or online functionality Mr programmer, huh, do you (*slamming a fist on table)?

          • I watched all of your videos and with the exception of one, they are nitpicking, whiny, and in some cases a result of you not knowing how to play the game. There are instances of hands going through objects in almost every single game in any genre. It is impossible to make a perfect game and I just feel what you complain about is not much of an issue.

            We need to stop nitpicking about gameplay and really point the most glaring issue with this game. The online is STILL an absolute disgrace and I’m fed up with it. Team Up and Crew barely work, glitch 99’s all over the place, no lobbies, no online presentation, etc. Innovation in this area is greatly needed to catch up with what otherwise is a phenomenal game.

          • Anonymous

            How is it nitpicking when it’s something that makes the game? Imagine if you were playing a football video game, and your wide receiver has a pass thrown to him and just runs in the opposite direction as soon as its thrown. Or you’re playing a baseball game, and you try to make a diving catch and the fielder dives in the wrong direction, or better yet, the ball just goes through his glove. Or a fly ball just falls to your feet even though you were standing in the spot where it’s coming down. In NBA 2k11, those things happen several times a game, and it completely ruins the game. The game is so fast paced, one miscue can make the difference between a win and a loss.

            Also, which ones are me not knowing how to play? When I play NBA 2k11, I attempt to play real basketball, meaning if the ball handler is exposing the ball with his back to me, I’m going to try to steal it. If I have an open lane to the basket, I am going to take it. When someone telegraphs a pass, I am going to jump the passing lane, and I expect the player I’m controlling to use his hands to catch/swat the ball instead of his face.

          • Nphillyk

            At this point you just sound like a complete hater. Some of your issues are legit, but the vast majority are just you complaining about the game not being perfect. Get real man, this is easily the best NBA game ever made. Flaws and all. At least 2K are improving on a solid foundation every year. Can’t say that about certain other companies.

          • marvolous24

            All sports games have problems, the ? is, which one can you deal with

        • Nick

          really? best sports game? Is everyone that replies to pasta’s articles 2K fanboys? I swear, everything is either about how Madden sucks, how Elite was canceled, or how much 2k11 gives them a boner.

      • Anonymous

        2K11 is great big guy………best sports game ever made last time I checked.

      • Anonymous

        2K11 is great big guy………best sports game ever made last time I checked.

  • Hungryandrew

    It took alot of courage to attempt to release such a piece of crap to video gamers. Also the article proved my point about either around after the release of live 07 or live 08, that EA Sports had gone to the NBA and tried talk the nba into giving them exclusive license like the nfl. Good thing it was David Stern who objected, if that deal went through, Elite 11, would of been released. Never heard of 2k talking to the NBA about exclusivity.

    • I believe both companies inquired at the time. The NBA didn’t want to do an exclusive license though regardless.

      • Nphillyk

        They might at as well now. I see NBA 2K11 logos all over anything that has to do with the NBA. Though I will say that I’m not a fan of exclusitivity, it defeats the purpose of the American dream.

        • Theres no reason for 2K to pay for an exclusive license. They already own the market.

  • I don’t agree with IGN that EA should be commended. Far from it.

    However … they are right on one angle. After the amount of investment that they had made, I am surprised, nay shocked, that they didn’t release it. The vast majority of companies (regardless of industry) would prefer to get some kind of return on investment, long term effects be damned.

    I don’t agree with commended, courage, nobility, or any of those words that, honestly, don’t belong in an article about a company’s decision to not release a product. Courage and nobility should be reserved for far greater pursuits.

    Maybe a nod of recognition? Yes, it was a business decision. But no matter how much logic you throw at it, Pasta, it was a business decision that a lot of companies wouldn’t have made.

  • I don’t agree with IGN that EA should be commended. Far from it.

    However … they are right on one angle. After the amount of investment that they had made, I am surprised, nay shocked, that they didn’t release it. The vast majority of companies (regardless of industry) would prefer to get some kind of return on investment, long term effects be damned.

    I don’t agree with commended, courage, nobility, or any of those words that, honestly, don’t belong in an article about a company’s decision to not release a product. Courage and nobility should be reserved for far greater pursuits.

    Maybe a nod of recognition? Yes, it was a business decision. But no matter how much logic you throw at it, Pasta, it was a business decision that a lot of companies wouldn’t have made.

  • Anonymous

    Great Article Pasta, agree completely.

  • Anonymous

    Great Article Pasta, agree completely.

  • PJV

    Don’t you people get it? EA can do no wrong. They almost put out a basketball game that was on par with with NBA Shootout 2001. Yet its all about how their tough decisions. How they had to agonize of this. Give me a damn break. Madden sales are down almost 20% and I am sure they are already briefing the talking heads at EA with all the excuses they are going to use. Whats more, EA will probably continue to dumb down Madden. When in reality they should be looking at games like the Show and NBA 2k11 which prove that total sim is what sports gamers want.

    • Anonymous

      2k11 is so far from sim it’s not even funny.

      • Anonymous

        notice how your the last hater standing………must be gettin lonely

        • Anonymous

          I’m not hating. 2k11 isn’t a terrible game, but I don’t believe it deserves nearly the amount of praise its getting. It’s just not as true to the sport as so many people make it out to be.

          • Bongo

            Nevertheless you sound like a hater. I have no problem with dat. Be a hater if you want to be hater. But I can tell you: You’re wrong…

          • Anonymous

            What am I wrong about?

          • tish

            There’s a reason that you’re the only person here trashing 2k11. Because it’s a great game and you obviously don’t have any clue what real basketball is. 2k11 has it’s problems, but they are more than cancelled out by everything that they did right and the depth and attention to detail in the game.

          • Anonymous

            Trust me, I know plenty about basketball. I also know about programming. The fact that you are praising 2k tells me that you don’t know much about either. The morphing and clipping has been a huge game breaker for years, yet it has not been addressed in the least. Most likely because in order to fix it, they would have to either scrap or revamp their animation system, and that would require effort. The lack of ball awareness is worse in this game than any other game I’ve played. Why is it that I can go for a rebound, and the ball simply falls to the ground while my player is holding his hands straight in the air? Why is it that I can try to steal a bad pass and the ball hits my player in the face and bounces back to the other team? Why is it that my hand goes through the ball when I try to steal from a big man backing down a teammate, or exposing the ball to the point where its asking to be stolen? Why is it that a perfect release on a wide open shot with a good shooter doesn’t fall, but I can technically shoot 100% from the line with Shaq in a season? And why does Clark Kellogg have to remind me that it’s not endearing to your opponent when you hang on the rim 10 times a game? The attention to detail is laughable. Have you seen the Cavs court in 2k11? Have you seen it in real life? You would think that the huge logo in the middle of the court would be pretty easy to make out. I don’t know, maybe I just got a beta copy or something, but I’m not seeing what makes this the best sports game ever.

          • Nick

            Agreed, you guys nit pick every single little thing you can about Madden, but then when it comes to 2K, little things don’t make a difference. Sure, 2K looks great, but the gameplay is far from perfect. I swear, the only thing important to people anymore is halftime shows and cheerleaders.

          • Anonymous

            Because it’s a $60 (pre-patch) VIDEO GAME and NOT REAL LIFE smh…..

            If you answer two questions for me I’ll let you live (J/K you can live regardless)….

            1. What sports game is better then NBA 2K11?
            2. Whats always bound to happen when you compare a $60 VIDEO GAME to real life?

          • Anonymous

            1. MLB 10 The Show is a better representation of its sport than NBA 2k11.
            2. I don’t really know how to answer that. NBA 2k11 is touted for being a realistic simulation of basketball, and it is far from it. Those things I mentioned are huge issues, especially in an NBA game. They have been issues in 2k basketball games for years, and ruin the entire experience when it affects game after game after game.

            I wouldn’t be nearly as critical if 2k itself hadn’t bragged so much about it being the best game ever. Also, yes, it is on a one year development cycle, but these problems aren’t new to this year’s iteration. They have had years to work on them.

        • Nphillyk

          lol Exactly. The dude acts as if the CEO from 2K slapped his mom. This dude is the worst!!!

        • Nphillyk

          lol Exactly. The dude acts as if the CEO from 2K slapped his mom. This dude is the worst!!!

      • Anonymous

        LOL you and Daley still carrying the torch of hate, FAce it man 2k11 is the sahit, maybe not the best sports game ever but surely the best basketball game. Go away with Live homey you might get another chance next year

  • Anonymous

    Took the words right out of my mouth.

  • Joe

    Wow. So IGN is owned by EA or just loves sucking some big EA c**k. One the more interesting things in my opinion is that no one has stated the poor decision by EA to hand a basketball over to a guy who played professional hockey. If that was discussed sorry I must’ve missed it.

    • Joe

      Sorry I left the word “game” out of the above comment. Should read “hand a basketball game over”. Sorry.

      • Nick

        Before you talk about sucking, why don’t you watch the 2k review. In no way, shape or form did 2k11 deserve a 9.5, and the guy doing the review is pretty much having sex with his copy as he talks. If they were pro EA, they would have said the truth, that its basically the same game, with a few extra blonde highlights to make it look better. Dont get me wrong, Im no EA supporter, in fact I love my 2k game, it’s just the truth. IGN was probably just saying good things because Wilson ok’d a interview.

        • tish

          IGN isn’t an EA fanboy that blindly supports them and trashes 2k, IGN supports EVERYONE AS LONG AS THEY GET PAID. If you remember, IGN gave Grand Theft Auto 4 a perfect 10/10 even though it is a weaker game than both San Andreas and Vice City. IGN is in bed with every company as long as they fork over the cash. Good reviews sell games to the mass idiots.

    • Definitely was a questionable decision and backfired.

    • Anonymous

      I don’t see what the problem is with that. They had the right ideas. They were just executed poorly. 1:1 dribbling control is absolutely necessary in a basketball game, as is some sort of skill based shooting. Obviously they failed miserably on the physics aspect in the first attempt, no question about that. But animations are too limiting, especially in a basketball game. They have the right idea; they just need to find a way to make it work. Elite was clearly a failed first effort, but it’s still a step in the right direction.

      • Prince Oochie

        You are correct in one stating one thing “….it’s still a step in the right direction.” However it’s very unfortunate that 2K will get it correct before EA does whenever they decide to implement it. I’m sorry, but when it comes to football and basketball games, EA is increasingly becoming synonymous with giving a half-assed approach. 2K11 is far from greatness and/or perfection, but it is the most ambituous basketball title to date. No game will ever be perfect, but all the gaming community ask is that we detect a great deal of effort being placed in a title year in and year out.

        • Anonymous

          If 2k can do it, then great. I have no loyalty to one company or another. I just want a game that plays like real basketball, or at least close, and to have control over what I do in the game.

  • Hungryandrew

    Please tell IGN to get rid of their EA SPorts kneepads and dildos. what a bunch of tools, commending and giving praise to EA for cancelling Elite.

  • Reign

    You know pasta, I’ve seen you stay impartial and diplomatic in the face of some pretty arrogant bullshit from EA (and others) in the past. It’s good to see you vent and call it what it is.

  • Reign

    You know pasta, I’ve seen you stay impartial and diplomatic in the face of some pretty arrogant bullshit from EA (and others) in the past. It’s good to see you vent and call it what it is.

  • Reign

    You know pasta, I’ve seen you stay impartial and diplomatic in the face of some pretty arrogant bullshit from EA (and others) in the past. It’s good to see you vent and call it what it is.

  • Reign

    You know pasta, I’ve seen you stay impartial and diplomatic in the face of some pretty arrogant bullshit from EA (and others) in the past. It’s good to see you vent and call it what it is.

  • Griswald34

    Great article Pasta. IGN should feel dirty.

  • Timmy458

    I had to read the article after Pasta talked about it on Twitter, and I almost had to quit reading half way thru cause it was just too ridiculous to believe. What EA did wasn’t courageous it was what needed to be done or lose all credibility in the NBA video game market. Great post Pasta.

  • Bob

    Pasta, I’ve ripped you in the past, but I appreciate your writeup on this story.

  • im so appalled… (kanye voice)

  • Who else thinks EA should just take ANOTHER year and get it done right?

    Like that will ever happen…

    • I actually believe there is a good chance there will be no NBA 12 from EA.

  • Lonnie

    so EA made a bad game and they realize it and pulled the plug on it..that’s all their saying and that’s what happened..don’t know why anyone would get upset over it..geez get a life people.

    • Anonymous

      I agree. I think Pasta’s point is the fact that EA is making it sound as if they didn’t know it was going to be a poorly received game.

      I somewhat agree with the article in that although the game was terrible, having to pull it completely is something that I guarantee was not an easy decision especially with the amount of money poured into it. Remember, we aren’t just talking costs of development, licensing and production, but also advertising.

      I don’t agree that IGN was trying to help EA save face. I think the person who wrote the article was trying to provide an alternate perspective. It is easy to be an EA hater because it is the thing to do but EA’s games are still, in my opinion, are on the upswing.

      The NCAA, FIFA, MMA, NHL and Fight Night franchises are solid and improving. NBA Jam has turned out to be a pleasant surprise as well. The Madden franchise needs more PR help than anything. It is sad, however, that one of its proudest franchises has pretty much crashed and burned and it was caused not by Elite, but the decision to try to make the game something it didn’t need to be.

  • DanielOkrent

    This company of EA Sports is absolutely corrupt at the core. I think we will look back at these years as the years they crumbled.

  • DanielOkrent

    This company of EA Sports is absolutely corrupt at the core. I think we will look back at these years as the years they crumbled.

  • GlockGidoens

    ………………………HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..*BREATHING HEAVILY*…..COURAGEOUS COURA-WHA!!!! HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahaahHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA calls 911 reports broken laugh box, and can’t breath ( during 31 mins to being picked up) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA…I GUESS IF ITS NOT IN THE GAME THEY MOTION SHIFT IT IN HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHA I LOVE A GOOD PR CAMPAIGN HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA BUT DAMN IGN AT LEAST TRY TO keep it a secret they they didn’t offer you a lil change on the side for this article man talk about coming from left field was anyone else even thinking about NBA Elite, prior to finding out about hahahahahahahahaahahahahaha…….dies. Diagnosis: heart couldn’t take that much bullshit aka Overload Bullshit Syndrome aka OBS or better know as by the street name Ole Bullshit

  • GlockGidoens

    Also EA…………………………………………………………………IS A MULTI-FUCKING-BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY……………………………..DON’T GIMME THIS I BET IT WAS A ALOT OF MONEY THEY LOST NOT PUTTING THAT GAME OUT YEAH IF IT WAS CALLED HALO god of war cod gta mgs but at the end of the day it was called NBA Elite (which people which people still called NBA live anyway) OK so lets not try to make EA some victim here ok. EA then came out with NBA jam not to mention the several other FIFA NHL MADDEN sports that were already out also lets be real WE ALL KNEW IT WASN’T GONNA SELL ANYWAY…….CCCCCCCCCCCmon son with that top of the morning buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuulshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. “We’re proud that we made the choice to not just put something out there that wasn’t good.”….”Ultimately,” Wilson admits, “it was just going to be a bad game.”……….*taps shoulder*……..excuse me but uh are you aware of a game your company makes called Madden. I think you should check it out. Oh and Also go fuck yourself….good day to you.

  • Joshtree14

    if ea never released a demo and recieved so much negativity they sure as hell would have released the game in oct, its kind of like the boyfiend who gets caught cheating and says hes sorry after the fact

  • pasta is a fag

    nba 2k11 is the most overrated sports game ever its exactly the same as 2k10 there are many glitches and problems with the game and to be called the best sports game ever is absolutely outrageous.

    • Live10_fan

      wat’s up daley

      that’s what you think. sorry but most ppl won’t agree with your statement.

    • Live10_fan

      wat’s up daley

      that’s what you think. sorry but most ppl won’t agree with your statement.

  • Yosten

    IGN is a joke. How much $ did they take from EA for that puff piece?

  • Guest

    Andrew Wilson could sell ice to the eskimos.

  • Anonymous

    where the fuck is the article about the shit they pulled with NCAA Basketball, the known freezing issues and never release a patch to fix the problem.

  • ClickClackCaos

    Pasta, agree with everything you say here except for the fact that NBA Live was still selling MUCH worse than 2k had for the last 4-5 years. So really by releasing the game, it wouldnt have hurt them anymore than those years. Id say the quality of Elite was around the same as LIVE 07-09.

  • Chill-Bill

    Its all part of the game. They need to continue having the access to these games before they release and articles like this one helps that cause. That is why they pretend like games are so improved from the previous year in all their previews and then wait until the game actually hits the shelves to tell you the whole truth when they can’t fool you anymore.

  • jusmegamer

    First Ron Paul now Pasta. I usually don’t agree with Republicans at all and I use don’t agree with Pasta at all but they both deserve a plaque at the current moment. Ron Paul for speaking out against the TSA in a big way and Pasta for blasting IGN for this. Finally, IGN has always seemed biased towards EA in my personal opinion that’s why I don’t really respect there ratings of any game.

  • Moneymayweather

    courageous! TIGER

  • and this is why EA has very little community respect as a company.

  • Anonymous

    That’s what you get from a Rupert Murdoch media company…

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  • Anonymous

    WOW!!! Pasta what passion you demonstrate against EA. Is this for the benefit of all the 2k fanboys that insist you are a tool for EA. Cut the bullshit grandstanding Pasta.

    Bottom line is that the game wasn’t going to be good and it was pulled. There are no other explanations nor interpretations needed here.

    I do however find it quite interesting that you don’t display this same passion when it comes to MLB2k baseball or to NBA2k10. MLB2k baseball is undoubtedly the worst sports franchise on the market today with MLB2k8 being far more tragic than Elite could ever be and NBA2k10 with its bug laden and broken gameplay modes.

    You never displayed any sort of passion against 2k for this. Clearly 2k should have never released MLB2k8 and NBA2k10 should never have been launched with the enormous problems that game has.

    Seriously Pasta you are steadily losing credibility here. It is pretty clear that objectivity isn’t your strong suit but then again your a blogger so I guess you don’t need to be.