MLB 11: The Show Pitching Controls Tutorial; 2K Sports Not Impressed

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Posted February 15th, 2011 at 11:30 am

The big new feature for MLB 11: The Show comes with the implementation of analog controls. In regards to the pitching mechanic it involves what is essentially a meter like years past however utilizing the right analog stick to determine strength and accuracy based on the down-up motion and release point. To show off the new system SCEA has released a tutorial video going over how the analog pitching works which can be viewed on the Gamestop page (scroll down and select ‘Pure Pitching Tutorial Video’ in the right column).

Meanwhile MLB 2K11 designer Sean Bailey has expressed his thoughts on The Show’s pitching mechanic during an interview with Destructoid. One could point to the MLB 2K series in its adaption of analog-heavy controls three years ago as the reason why The Show would feel the need to make a similar change now. Despite 2K’s struggles that has been how they have best differentiated from the competition so understandably they may feel a bit threatened.

Every single one of their pitches is going to be down-up. Well, you know, as a 2K player, that’s going to get boring to me, because that’s a four-seam fastball — that’s the easiest pitch in our game.

It’ll be especially important to have a pre-release demo considering it will take some time to adapt to the new analog pitching, hitting, and fielding controls. Unfortunately there has still been no word on when to expect a demo. Last year SCEA chose not to put one out pre-release. Also make sure check out 36 brand new screenshots that were added today in the gallery!

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  • Anonymous

    LOL. So the 2K dev is complaining about SCEA not stealing 2K’s feature? C’mon man.

  • KinnRR

    i am completely shocked that it wasnt that jackass ronnie2k that said it lol

    • Sdot

      LMAO!!!!!!!

  • http://www.thematuregamer.blogspot.com MattColby

    Gotta love the developer of a far inferior game in 2K baseball knocking The Show series. Really? Do you really want to go there 2K?

    I don’t care what button I have to press or what analog stick I have to move any which way to pitch or hit, MLB:The Show has been one of the best sports series of all time and the last thing 2K needs to be doing is making negative comments about it. Fix your own house first before you start knocking your far superior big brother.

    It’s like the ugly girl with the red lipstick making fun of the pretty girl who is now wearing red lipstick instead of pink. The ugly girl is still ugly, and the pretty girl is still pretty no matter what lipstick she puts on.

    And 2K baseball has been ugly for a long time, inside and out.

    • Anonymous

      But is he lying though?

      It still amazes me that people give certain games a “free pass” to make lackluster improvements and immediately start dick-riding whatever enhancements the game produces.

      People are acting like a change in control scheme is a major upgrade. When Elite and Fight Night did the same thing everyone was here crying about it (in the case of Fight Night) or minimizing it (in the case of Elite). So now the Show does it and we are supposed to be impressed?!?!?

      Madden drops the same game every year except for a few graphical upgrades and animations and we call them the evil empire. The Show does the exact same thing and we call it the best. Well not me! This is one gamer who refuses to settle for less.

      Minimal improvement is cool if the prior year saw huge upgrades, like The Show ’09, but 10 didn’t produce shit, so please tell what HUGE upgrade were they working on the last 2 years?!? Had this been any other game, clowns would be flooding the board with vitriol.

      • Anonymous

        yet you continue to purchase the game lol

      • HR

        You’re such a fuckin’ hater. Go get some trim, you loser.

        • Anonymous

          LOL, you don’t even justify a response.

          • Anonymous

            The problem with you RA is that your a hypocrite. You ramble on and on about how every sports game is a disappointment, yet you continue to support such games by purchasing them.

          • Anonymous

            Actually I did not say every sports game is a disappointment. I don’t consider NCAA football, 2k basketball or The Show ’09 and ’10 disappointing. These are the only games I purchase. The jury is still out on MLB ’11, (hell no one can have a copy atm).

            I am consistent with my criticisms. I hardly ever clown people for purchasing games. I clon the games themselves. Trust me homey, I don’t buy Madden, Elite, 2k hockey or baseball

          • Anonymous

            The jury is out on MLB11 yet every year you ramble on and on about how great NBA2k is and you do this by only reading promo hype from 2k.

            MLB is such a good game that they don’t have to do much and the game will be great. Anything they do decide to do will only enhance the game. You see the MLB franchise is a continuous building process that expands upon what is already there, unlike 2k who keeps tearing apart and redoing aspects of there games. This is why MLB2k is a complete failure. MLB2k7 was the highest rated baseball game of 2007 and look what they have done to the series since. It’s an embarassment.

          • Anonymous

            The jury is out on MLB11 yet every year you ramble on and on about how great NBA2k is and you do this by only reading promo hype from 2k.

            MLB is such a good game that they don’t have to do much and the game will be great. Anything they do decide to do will only enhance the game. You see the MLB franchise is a continuous building process that expands upon what is already there, unlike 2k who keeps tearing apart and redoing aspects of there games. This is why MLB2k is a complete failure. MLB2k7 was the highest rated baseball game of 2007 and look what they have done to the series since. It’s an embarassment.

      • Benny

        The Show definitely gets a pass. Maybe they are deserving of it to an extent but very few upgrades, lying about and then not releasing a demo, having broken franchise until a patch last year, having shitty online play every single year. Somehow the hardcore fans just overlook those things.

        • Anonymous

          That’s all I’m saying mayne…

        • Tyrone

          The Show gets a pass because it’s gameplay is so phenomenal. All the problems you mentioned are not gameplay related. The problem with most other games is that the gameplay is so flawed that most of the improvements fail to address the core problems. The Show has gotten to a place where it represents baseball more than any other game represents its sport. I want The Show to be perfect and it’s obvious that the developers want it to be too.

      • http://www.thematuregamer.blogspot.com MattColby

        My comment had nothing to do with “dick riding” any game. The Show is not perfect, and we all know that. But it’s still the best sports franchise going right now (neck and neck with 2K basketball).

        It’s the fact that a developer from 2K baseball would have anything to say about MLB The Show that’s the problem. They need to focus on what they’re doing to improve their weak game before pointing the finger, or analog stick in this case, at a proven winner like The Show.

        • Anonymous

          I wasn’t referring to you. You didn’t praise any new enhancements for The Show in your comment.

          • Anonymous

            So basically anyone who happens to have a differing opinion than the “Omniscient” Amen Ra is a Dick rider. You sir are a complete moron and just for the record you dick ride 2k harder than anyone I have ever known with perhaps the exception of Sdot.

          • Anonymous

            LOL, no they are not “dick riders” but there are pople who “dick ride” improvements. A “liar” is someone who lies all the time. We all tell lies but we are not all “liars”. Surely as an adult you can see the difference?

            You keep saying that I”m a 2k basketball dick rider. Where did you see me say they are the best game ever and the shit etc. I have praised their improvements, just like I did other games, but I haven';t said shit about 2k since release. You are the one who constantly has that game on your mind. Just breathe man

          • Anonymous

            OK then tell me where I have ever written that Elite was the shit then. My biggest complaint about you RA is that you whine way too much about Madden. Get over it. Franchis isn’t what you wanted this past year, but it IS coming so pipe down and be patient.

      • Bostonsports6857

        you must be stuck playing 2k hahahahha

  • Skihawks

    I, for one, am not a fan of analog controls but if a company can get it right then good for gamers.

    As far as 2K commenting on what SCEA is doing, yeah that is a beatdown waiting to happen. 2K’s game has been nothing short of a disaster and because SCEA is utilizing something that 2K implemented, and poorly I might add, a few years ago they feel the need to comment on it? Dudes at 2K need to get their tickets to shutty town…Their game is the third best and #2 isn’t even around anymore (cough…MVP…cough).

    • Anonymous

      I really don’t care if i have to press a button or pull a stick back. Its just not that big a deal and something the doesn’t matter. No matter what the control scheme is, you will adapt to it and it will be come a non factor.

      There was nothing wrong with the pitching scheme in the show and to move it to the stick just for the sake of calling it different is a waste of time. It doesn’t add anything to the game what so ever. Just like in Fight Night, some people prefer buttons and some prefer the stick. As long as both are options, then everyone is happy.

      • Ratedramos

        It’s mainly so you can add the balk rule, seeing as soo many teams are balking now aka the mets

    • Anonymous

      I really don’t care if i have to press a button or pull a stick back. Its just not that big a deal and something the doesn’t matter. No matter what the control scheme is, you will adapt to it and it will be come a non factor.

      There was nothing wrong with the pitching scheme in the show and to move it to the stick just for the sake of calling it different is a waste of time. It doesn’t add anything to the game what so ever. Just like in Fight Night, some people prefer buttons and some prefer the stick. As long as both are options, then everyone is happy.

  • Rockchisler2000

    Yea 2k needs not to comment till there game is upto par..

    • Really

      It won’t be up to par visually since The Show is console exclusive and all 2K baseball goes down to is a xbox 360 port. They have to focus completely on franchise and gameplay.

      I wish SCEA could focus on other PS3 exclusive sports titles again. I know their NBA game looked like crap visually but it wouldn’t hurt to try again with effort.

  • Bubble Gum

    NO 2K, The show didn’t take your idea at all, they took EA’s idea(since it started with EA) short term memory loss, I presume. Being an older gamer, I for one like their rock and fire implementation, its simple and easy to remember, plus its ratings based, not end user getting a gesture right or suffer the 30% miss, equals you’re 30% off, that’s dumb. And judging by that tutorial is implemented pretty damn well with some personal touches on MVP NCAA Rock and Fire.

  • Anonymous

    I am not a huge fan of analog controls and won’t be using them in MLB 11: The Show anyway. But it’s nice to know The Show won’t have the bugs, glitches, etc. that is the norm of a 2K baseball title.

    • Benny

      The Show had a ton of problems last year. Just because 2K is worse off shouldn’t make people ok with that.

      • Anonymous

        I agree, last year’s MLB The Show had issues of that nature. But it was the first time I recall that The Show had problems like this. I also purchased several 2K baseball games in the past and all had freezing problems, Franchise stat issues, players disappearing from rosters, players changing appearance, etc.

        While The Show’s issues were disappointing, they were fixed and taken care of. 2K never seems to fully remedy their game’s problems, year after year.

  • Kbboone19

    I for one like the control scheme. At first I wasn’t sure if I would like the analog controls, but after seeing them in action, I can now say that I will give them a try at least. As for 2K saying they are not impressed, all I can say is I’m not surprised. SCEA has made a analog base system that makes sense, not some convoluted control mechanism remniscent of a bad fighting game. Keep up the good work SCEA!!! Day one purchase for me.

  • Anonymous

    2K baseball is the reason I bought a PS3, so I guess I owe them that much. Thanks for putting out a crappy product so I could switch to The Show!

  • Anonymous

    Just noticing small tidbits from that video, as a Reds fan, I’m glad to see Chapman’s delivery is right, still looks like Brandon Phillips’ stance is off…

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  • Sharp

    Haha, wow. This makes 2k look like the jealous little kid.
    I’m not a 2k hater on anything (I own MLB 2k7/8/9), but this is just sad.

  • Philly

    It’s good to see competition in sports video games… sad that it isn’t the case all across the board.

  • Anonymous

    I thik 2k’s pitching is much better than the show.. it feels much more realistic. So its a good thing they used this for 11.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5HEOU4SYRXP2LUDP7NKRUUR5ZQ Steve

    2K, you can take that shit marketing gimmick for 2K11, “..and so much more”, and shove it up your ass. Analog controls started with EASports, soo not sure where you’re getting, “we feel flattered”, or “not impressed, they copied our idea”, its not even close to how your analog controls are. The last the SCEA is going to worry about is you guys and your SHIT team. Right now, the devs over at Sony are paying too much attention to their fans to have to deal with this nonsensical garbage. When your game is even close to par with The Show, you can start talking shit. But right now 2K, you’re acting like that one kid at school who is harassed at home and needs to get on other people to make yourself feel better inside about life. GTFO out of here with your trash….

    • Bigpapiandchipper

      Yea, and there are only so many ways to input on a control…so the analog sticks should be off-limits for the Show b/c 2K has “dibs”…bullshit.

      If they copied their system exactly that would be one thing, but as this moron says himself, it’s implemented completely differently.

      2K blows, I feel sorry for 360 owners

  • Josox4

    HEY 2K, when your game gets relevant, then talk.

  • Lewis160

    Dont Forget 2K Took SCEA Idea of Road To The Show only to be called my player

    • Lake Allen

      Which had been taken from other EA games, ect. All companies copy ideas.

  • Anonymous

    couldnt be anymore boring than having CG with 130 pitch counts, no injuries, and no errors. With or without analog 2k shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath as the show

  • Josh

    The Show is definitely the better overall game but 2K is still more fun to play.

    • HR

      !?!? What the fuck.. do you listen to yourself ?

  • Ratedramos

    Lets see how many people balk in this game

  • Bigpapiandchipper

    2K talks a big game for a franchise that’s had it’s assed thoroughly kicked for years now, thanks to developers who are infinitely more competent and work with the community to make the best game possible.

    And in terms of his point about the controls, pulling down then up replicates pitching much more than pushing the stick up or sideways than rotating it this way and that. It may be a more “in-depth” system but it’s not as realistic. I’d love to hear what the Show developers think about 2K’s product, but they wouldn’t stoop to that…besides, the public has already made had their say

    • Tlupher3

      This is funny! Did anyone read the interview or did you just read EA Sports #1 fan pasta padres headline. All that was said in the interview is that it was going to be too easy to pitch. Never did he say it was a bad pitching system. In fact he gave Mlb the show mad props for being a great franchise. I hope 2k is on par with the show this year just so all of your hearts are broken again. Just like when NBA 2k sold over 4 million copies. I could see all of your pathetic hearts breaking, especially yours Pasta. Come on Pasta, after all your blogs, all your great gaming info you give 0 props for nba 2k’s recording breaking sales. No post of the clever Brain Wilson ad campaign for MLB 2k. Look, wether you like MLB2k or not the ads are awesome and you haven’t said a word about them. We see none of this info on EA Spor…….I mean Pastas blog, why not? Fortunately, for The Show series EA doesn’t have a baseball game to compete against it or it would be getting hated on by Pasta as well. You guys all make me laugh, what a joke. Here’s to 2k sports getting the NFL license in 2014 BABY!!!!!!!!

      • DanIL

        You must not pay much attention to the site. Find another site please that was as tough on Madden as here. Definitely wasn’t Operation Sports (9.0 review cough cough)

  • MarcOS

    The MLB 11 demo WILL BE out NEXT WEEK

  • Robby5992

    I’m guessing 2K just knows that, yet again, their game will be nothing compared to The Show. And its not just an up and down motion. You have to move the stick towards a target at the top. So the right stick will be moving diagonal at most points. If you miss by the slightest margin, the pitch will be affected.

    I bet even in its first year The Show’s analog will be better than what 2K has put out the last few years.

  • Anonymous

    The Show is showing what a serious organization does. Don’t fall in love with your ideas. If someone else does something that works, do not steal it, improve upon it.

    It is a shame that 2K did not look to take more of the Show’s features into their own game. Must be nice to have a monopoly and care little about improving a product that gets hammered by the press and by gamers. At least Madden tries a little.

  • Adam2134

    At least the show does headline Improved gameplay 6 years later

    2k sports is a complete joke its unbelievable they are still around

  • Jwade3247

    If I was 2k, I’d worry more about making my product better.

  • TheTINO

    Yeah 2K should focus on areas where they can win like the fact that NBA 2K11 is the greatest basketball game ever and ESPN NFL 2k5 is the greatest football game ever made and is still better than all the Maddens that have come out since.

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