Nascar 2011 Dealing With Severe Issues

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Posted March 31st, 2011 at 12:00 pm

Nascar 2011 released earlier this week and despite some positive response regarding the gameplay it has been plagued by bugs and completely broken online play. Videos such as this and this and this have been getting around representing the type of shape the game is in. Even the most simple of things like the line-up for starts find cars placed in big wrecks, facing walls, or going the wrong direction.

To their credit Activision and developer Eutechnyx have been responsive to the community in this their first attempt at a Nascar game. They’re even going out on a limb that most other companies would not by listing what they plan to fix before knowing if they’ll actually be able to do so. Still this is about as close to a retail product being a beta as you will find. Continue on for a look at a list of issues that they have laid out to be addressed in an upcoming patch, which would realistically be at least a month (and likely longer) away from arriving.

Bugs:
Fix lack of Caution Flags – To Be Fixed
Fix issues with the A.I. exiting the pits and then pulling straight up the track – To Be Fixed
Reconfigure the damage to improve the look and add more debris on impact – To Be Fixed
Fix Cautions Lights being illuminated all of the time – To Be Fixed
Improve the PS3 voice comms – To Be Fixed
Fix the Rolling Starts Online/Offline so the cars begin in the correct formation and together – To Be Fixed
Fix the instant wrecking during Online Rolling Starts – To Be Fixed
Fix the Lobby Race Start Counter freezing – To Be Fixed
Fix Spotter saying “Clear” too often – To Be Fixed
Improve general stability and freezing issues – To Be Fixed

Improvements:
Change the Gas indicator so it defaults to full in the pit stop interface – To Be Fixed
Draft effect both on the car and visual to be tweaked – To Be Fixed
In Private games, the host will start the timer when they are ready – To Be Fixed
Add support for the Porsche GT2 wheel – To Be Added
Add support for the T500 wheel – To Be Added
Allow the HUD to be completely turned off – To Be Added
Free up the A.I. cars so that when they are hit by a player they will get loose – To Be Fixed
Ensure only Carl Edwards performs a back flip – To Be Fixed
Add the ability to change your Online Car – To Be Added

Investigating:
A.I. being overly aggressive when bump drafting the player
A.I. difficulty being too easy when qualifying
A.I. pitting problems causing them to collide in to each other
A.I. bunching on certain tracks
A.I. slamming their brakes on for no reason
Hitting the wall often turns the car ending up with the player facing the wrong way

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  • Hab3

    those videos made me LOL. no wonder they didnt release a demo

  • http://twitter.com/Roggie2499 Tyler Rogoff

    I’ve actually exchanged my copy of NASCAR 2011 for Tiger Woods.

    I want to like this game. I really do. But right now, even the single player is broken due to cautions not working right and the debacle of AI cars trying to pit. 80% of my races had a crash due to people trying to get on pit row, and EVERY TIME the entire field pit under caution, 3 cars ended up upside down due to an accordion effect.

    • http://www.baked.thecomicseries.com Will Radie

      Ha, good call. I had to decide on Tuesday between the two, went with Tiger.

      Let me ask you this… If you found out they addressed all the things listed above, would you grab a copy again? I still want to get NASCAR, but I am not a NASCAR fan, so I am torn. I love NASCAR style racing though to most racing games, which is why I want this, I hear the gameplay is tight when not glitchy and the AI hiccups.

      • http://twitter.com/Roggie2499 Tyler Rogoff

        I would. I’ve said a few times that if they fixed the things that are gamebreakers for me (AI attempting to pit, pitting under caution, and cautions being broken), I’d gladly pick up the game. Probably used.

  • Anonymous

    How about they start by fixing the price. There’s no way they can say this game is worth $60.

  • http://www.facebook.com/GMBBrian Brian Mann

    How about Microsoft and Sony use the same processes they use when certifying patches? Make sure the game fucking works before releasing it. Now that should normally be on developers but since it seems they can’t do it right, I think there should be more stringent criteria for releasing games to public. Patching games after the fact is getting old and tiresome.

    • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

      MS/Sony certification is intended to make sure the games meet their pre-determined console specifications that they don’t break their hardware. Its not meant as quality control. That is on the developers and their QA teams.

      • http://www.facebook.com/GMBBrian Brian Mann

        I said it is on developers but none of them know how to test a game. They are all in a big hurry to release the game and get their money and then patch it later. They send out builds to reviewers that don’t have all of the features and the games get reviews based on that and then when it is time to release a game, we all find out that the features that weren’t available for review are broken..

      • Jbonax

        [This is my message I wrote to Nascar the Game 2011 producers]
        I’m sorry to say that I fell victim to false advertising. When I initially saw the video clip last September of the well-propagandized Nascar the Game 2011 Bristol showdown online, my involuntary nascar breath that had been secluded in the bowels of my soul was released. Whew!! For the first time in years, I instantly put my trust in the resurrection of a true Nascar racing simulation game. I, like many other fans, have been in hiding, not committing to any other form of racing; oh, yes, we rented, or perhaps purchased second-handedly the genres other titles, not wanting to do so, and telling no one we did (using aliases online) but knowing we had to patronize and temper our own souls until the day that our truthful and admired savior would arise from the ashes; and then, last September, with those clear and distinctive graphics, vibrant sounds that replicated to the tee the vicious engines of Nascar, portrayed the perfect balance of driving skills and authentic racing maneuvers, we all knew once and for all the signal had been delivered in HD quality and we heard our marching orders to “stay put, don’t compromise, I am delivering you out of bondage from those ‘other’ titles that do not do justice.” And like all the other nascarers, I’m sure, I reclined and used my fingers to uncover every interview, every REPLAY on youtube, every feature, everything I could about this game that according to that video in Bristol, would be a duplicate of experience. *%$#@ you don’t want to know what that means, believe me. The REPLAY???? Can you please explain the replay??? The RePlAy??? Please???

        I was expecting the SAME visual that was falsely represented in the September promo!! come on, now..be honest. How did you doctor up that video to falsely represent what you plainly intended to produce in the game for the consumer?? Come on, now. YOu falsely represented the replay. Have you really..i mean, really seen the crapping replay??? I’m talking Playstation one graphics..little plastic toy cars, commonly finished, tossed around like my grandsons’ McDonald’s happy meal cars. Where’s the maddening spin, metal being sheared (as you stated many times), cars duplicating the backward tosses, etc?? Have you seen the replay?? have you???

        I do not have the knowledge nor the mechanism to place those two REPLAYS side by side online on youtube, but i hope someone does soon, or else i will get someone to teach me HOW to do it myself. Can you imagine that beautifully rendered, so lifelike replication of a Nascar event in Bristol put side by side with the antiquated Playstation One rendering of two perfectly lined up rows of plastic cars in the replay inside the nascar the game 2011 game…give me electric football again! or give me slot car racing…give me liberty or give me depth.

        We all thought you were our savior, and like the German populace in the 40’s we fell to your excellently devised plan. I give you applause, my friends. I know your British champagne my be delicious. We all marched our $60 to Gamepot; we were there early. HEY, after all, WE ARE NASCAR!!!!! we’re not your kill ‘em sock ‘em shoot ‘em up punk kids; we’re nascar. you can count on us. we tell you the truth face to face. we do not falsely advertise. we shoot you straight. we stand up with our hands over our hearts for the national anthem. we pledge to the flag. we pay our taxes. we go to church. we expect truthfulness; and sometimes our honestly makes us vulnerable. We really did think you were doing the right thing. we trusted you.

        I’m going back to play Heat. At least i know when i see the replay to expect that percent of quality. I may even rent the Grand Turismo game that i traded in…the graphics there are exactly what was promised. With Nascar the Game 2011, I was hoodwinked. My savior was in effect, my shafter. How can you sleep?

  • Lonnie

    yea i got this game and it has a lot of problems but the racing is awesome,it’s a shame though the freezing and caution and pit lane issues to name just a few have made it unplayable,great to see at least they are going to try to fix things,some would just leave their game as is.

  • Geeznutz

    Still no consecutive hit tackles in madden 12 the saga continues… duck your head and roll gang tackles does EA notice this or are they blinded by the bottom line $$$$$$$$

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000295534671 Jared Baxter

      Why are you talking about EA? They have nothing to do with this game.

  • Oliver

    this game is trash as expected. never buy a game where the company wont release a demo

  • Bengalfan85

    Why release a game that is not ready to be released? you would not release a car if it has a fuel problem, that cannot be patched. You would not release a system if it wasnt working properly after development is finished, that cannot be patched. Yet you can release a game thats half finished or ‘broken’ as some people say because it can be patched. Most developers, i have read and heard from some of the people i know who work with these companies, usually have patches in development along with the game because they are aware of the issues while the game is still in development. How does this make any sense? is it really that hard to take the extra time to make sure the game works before its released to the public? the people who go out and spend their hard earned money on a product that you as a company are responsible for working properly?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000295534671 Jared Baxter

      It’s all about making money. Sadly, that’s all anything is about anymore.

      • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

        Yep, at some point they look at it as cutting their losses. The longer in development the more they’re spending without really the potential of increasing sales. Now if they’re thinking longer term, as in a franchise, that’s the smart thing to do take more time and get it right.

  • Bengalfan85

    Why release a game that is not ready to be released? you would not release a car if it has a fuel problem, that cannot be patched. You would not release a system if it wasnt working properly after development is finished, that cannot be patched. Yet you can release a game thats half finished or ‘broken’ as some people say because it can be patched. Most developers, i have read and heard from some of the people i know who work with these companies, usually have patches in development along with the game because they are aware of the issues while the game is still in development. How does this make any sense? is it really that hard to take the extra time to make sure the game works before its released to the public? the people who go out and spend their hard earned money on a product that you as a company are responsible for working properly?

  • Bengalfan85

    Why release a game that is not ready to be released? you would not release a car if it has a fuel problem, that cannot be patched. You would not release a system if it wasnt working properly after development is finished, that cannot be patched. Yet you can release a game thats half finished or ‘broken’ as some people say because it can be patched. Most developers, i have read and heard from some of the people i know who work with these companies, usually have patches in development along with the game because they are aware of the issues while the game is still in development. How does this make any sense? is it really that hard to take the extra time to make sure the game works before its released to the public? the people who go out and spend their hard earned money on a product that you as a company are responsible for working properly?

  • Bengalfan85

    Why release a game that is not ready to be released? you would not release a car if it has a fuel problem, that cannot be patched. You would not release a system if it wasnt working properly after development is finished, that cannot be patched. Yet you can release a game thats half finished or ‘broken’ as some people say because it can be patched. Most developers, i have read and heard from some of the people i know who work with these companies, usually have patches in development along with the game because they are aware of the issues while the game is still in development. How does this make any sense? is it really that hard to take the extra time to make sure the game works before its released to the public? the people who go out and spend their hard earned money on a product that you as a company are responsible for working properly?

  • http://www.woodsidemediagroup.com/ Amani

    No longer will we as gamers get a complete product off the shelf. Multiple patches are now the norm and unfortunately we have to stand up and say this is unacceptable. I am so glad I waited to hear reviews and feedback about this game (and MLB the Show mind you) before buying it. Now I will wait another month until the patch is released and then see feedback. Saves me $$$ and stress in the meantime. But this is ridiculous. A complete product is not too much to ask when we spend $65 at least on the game.

  • http://www.woodsidemediagroup.com/ Amani

    No longer will we as gamers get a complete product off the shelf. Multiple patches are now the norm and unfortunately we have to stand up and say this is unacceptable. I am so glad I waited to hear reviews and feedback about this game (and MLB the Show mind you) before buying it. Now I will wait another month until the patch is released and then see feedback. Saves me $$$ and stress in the meantime. But this is ridiculous. A complete product is not too much to ask when we spend $65 at least on the game.

  • http://www.woodsidemediagroup.com/ Amani

    No longer will we as gamers get a complete product off the shelf. Multiple patches are now the norm and unfortunately we have to stand up and say this is unacceptable. I am so glad I waited to hear reviews and feedback about this game (and MLB the Show mind you) before buying it. Now I will wait another month until the patch is released and then see feedback. Saves me $$$ and stress in the meantime. But this is ridiculous. A complete product is not too much to ask when we spend $65 at least on the game.

  • HaloUnion

    Looks like Burnout 3

    • Tkfortner

      Why cant we get a game that is atleast equal to nascar racing 4. Papyrus was baught by EA sports 8-10 years ago and there hasnt been an equal for past 10 yrs. Why pastapadre dont we do something about this? Use this forum to make things happen……………

    • Tkfortner

      Why cant we get a game that is atleast equal to nascar racing 4. Papyrus was baught by EA sports 8-10 years ago and there hasnt been an equal for past 10 yrs. Why pastapadre dont we do something about this? Use this forum to make things happen……………

      • Tkfortner

        Need to hire Papyrus team

        • Tkfortner

          Team from papyrus is involved in iracing. Didnt know this was on the market……you guys must check it out. iracing.com……Real Sim play……we need to push for this game physics for main stream consols………what do you think pastapadre?

      • Tkfortner

        Need to hire Papyrus team

  • Seanbob

    Too many glitches to mention, but does anyone know if there’s any indication as to whether damage is on or not during an online race before it’s too late?

  • Seanbob

    Too many glitches to mention, but does anyone know if there’s any indication as to whether damage is on or not during an online race before it’s too late?

  • Seanbob

    Too many glitches to mention, but does anyone know if there’s any indication as to whether damage is on or not during an online race before it’s too late?

    • Tkfortner

      very little………not enough damage

  • Jterr1968

    anyone know when this update is due out?

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