Knicks Let Jeremy Lin Leave to Rockets

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Posted July 17th, 2012 at 6:45 pm

It was an unprecedented run that Jeremy Lin turned in before a knee injury ended his season prematurely. Not only was his statistical output exceptional particularly considering his lack of experience but he hit some clutch shots along the way and was the sole catalyst for the resurgence of the Knicks. He became a media and fan sensation arguably exceeded in exposure level only by that of Tim Tebow. In Lin’s case however most people were rooting for him rather than having the divisive split of supporters and detractors. 

That makes it all the more surprising that the Knicks did not match the Rockets offer to Lin and now he is headed to Houston. From a financial standpoint letting him go made sense – NY would have faced tremendous luxury tax penalties in year three carrying his salary on top of the huge numbers due Carmelo Anthony, Amar’e Stoudemire, and Tyson Chandler.

Still it comes as a surprise given Lin’s supreme marketability and potential to be a very good player or even a star. The Knicks could have retained him only to trade him – or one of the other expiring contracts then – later but apparently the risk was too high that they’d have all four remaining in three years.

Lin began NBA 2K12 with a 56 overall rating. After he emerged as a starter scoring more points than anyone in their first three starts since 1976 – leading to an undefeated streak over 7 games averaging nearly 27 points an 9 assists despite that absence of Anthony and Stoudemire – he was boosted to 69 overall. That was followed soon after with an upgrade to 75 overall.

What do you think of the news that Jeremy Lin will be joining the Houston Rockets with the Knicks having filled the point guard position instead with Jason Kidd and Raymond Felton? Leave your thoughts in the comments!

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  • Kevin

    The Rockets are trying to build for the future. It won’t help them land Howard, though.

    • CSaintSwag

      Many of us Rockets fans do not want Howard to come to the Rockets, we would be giving up way to much.

      • lakers

        neither do us lakers fans.. he wont sign an extension so no one wants this guy

        • CSaintSwag

          Well he wont be signing any extensions with anyone since the Nets said they did not want him. I don’t think he will ever be a Brooklyn Net now, who wants to go somewhere they are not wanted?

          • Dymez

            That’s a lie. When did the Nets say they didn’t want him? Never. The Nets still want him and will be negotiating for him again in January, if he isn’t pressured to sign the Laker extension. Rob Hennigan is the reason the trade didn’t go down. He had a great offer – his best offer came from the Nets with variations of Lopez, Brooks/Humphries and three to four 1st round picks for Dwight Howard and all of the bad Magic contracts. Yet, Hennigan didn’t act on that deal and the Nets had to sign Brook Lopez before the deadline, before the Charlotte Bobcats could sign him to an offer sheet, and end up losing their most valuable trade asset. Then Hennigan, realizing he screwed up by not taking that deal, had the audacity to ask Dwight Howard to stay after passing up such a good deal.

          • lakers

            i think howard should go to charlotte. i mean look at all those great players who took this team to fame. if they trade for howard, the magic will win the finals cuz they have all the good bobcats players

          • Dymez

            LMFAO!!!

          • lakers

            i hope we trade gasol and bynum to charlotte. #6 for kobe anyone? lol
            -sarcasm-

          • CSaintSwag

            Well lets see i believe a couple of days ago, The Nets said, “We are not interested in Dwight anymore” try again to out smart me please do.

          • Dymez

            There’s no “out smart” in this. This doesn’t require intelligence in any form. Mikhail Prokhorov nor Billy King ever said “We are not interested in Dwight anymore.” That’s a lie. They tried to get Dwight down to the last hour but got rejected by Hennigan, like I said, they had to move on as the deadline was approaching and Lopez was about to take the Charlotte Bobcat deal. If they had just let him go, there would have been slim to no chance they would have enough to make an offer for Dwight later, and end up without a center for the season in the process.

            Here goes a source: http://www.sportsrageous.com/brooklyn-nets-are-moving-forward-without-dwight-howard-07-12-2012

          • CSaintSwag

            I’m starting to think you do not watch ESPN, news came in that the Nets were not interested in Dwight anymore.

          • 49ersfan1

            @Dymez:disqus csaintswag is right.

          • 49ersfan1

            i meant csaintsway is right.

          • Dymez

            No, he’s obviously not….

          • CSaintSwag

            Yes I am…………… The Lakers are the only team that will probably land him now, just read it on ESPN a little while ago.

          • Dymez

            Listen, dude. What you keep “hearing” and “reading” on ESPN is pretty much non-existent. I never heard what you heard, watched what you watched, and read what you read. Yet, I’m watching and reading the same sources. ESPN reported today that the Dwight Howard trade to the Lakers is not imminent because they can’t even get Dwight and the Magic to meet with them. They’re so desperate to get Dwight that they don’t even care if he gives assurance that he’ll sign an extension with them anymore. In fact, I’m reading right this minute that multiple sources have informed ESPNLosAngeles that the Lakers are very much considering walking away from the talks at some point this week and begin negotiations to a contract extension with Bynum and re-signing Jordan Hill.

            http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/8176062/source-los-angeles-lakers-continue-puruse-orlando-magic-center-dwight-howard

            So, I’ve got reports that Brooklyn still wants Dwight, is still in talks with the Magic for a January deal, and the Lakers are no closer than and maybe even further away from a deal than Brooklyn ever was for Dwight. You’re saying something that I’ve never heard before, none of my friends ever heard before and we watch the same ESPN that you watch. So, you’re either lying or you’re just wrong. So, I’m done with this discussion. Out.

          • CSaintSwag

            Nah you should try to turn on your TV right now, been watching ESPN all night, They just said a couple hours ago that they have a trade about to happen with the Lakers, Cavs, and Magic. Also Dwight stated a little white ago probably around 3 in the morning that he would sign an extension with the Lakers if he were to get traded there. The trade consists of Dwight going to the Lakers, Bynum going to the Cavs, and Anderson Varejao and multiple draft picks going to the Magic.

          • 49ersfan1

            not anymore.

          • Dymez

            I watch ESPN. Once again, the Nets never said that. In fact, Ric Bucher is ESPN’s #1 NBA Insider, and he was on the early show just yesterday talking about how the Nets are still in the hunt for Dwight Howard. It was reported by ESPNLosAngeles and ESPN’s own John Hollinger today that Dwight and the Magic didn’t meet with with the Lakers, even though he’s in Los Angeles and took in a Dodger game. Johnny also reported today that the Nets are currently STILL in talks with the Magic for what will likely be a January trade and the signing of Humphries yesterday actually helps put them in place (cap wise) to make this deal.

            Source: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-07-17/dwight-howard-trade-la-lakers-brooklyn-nets-kris-humphries-orlando-magic

          • CSaintSwag

            They said they were not interested in him a couple days back, it is not a lie….

  • Dymez

    I think it’s fair to say we all knew this was going to happen, what, a week ago when they made the sign and trade for Felton? I think this is a good move for the Knicks; Felton, if he comes to camp in shape, is the better point guard, and Jason Kidd will provide good leadership. For the Rockets, everyone knows what this move is about. They miss Yao Ming. No. They miss the financial success he was to the organization from not only China but the entire continent of Asia, now they’re bringing Jeremy Lin in to do the same.

    • CSaintSwag

      Well his ancestors are from Taiwan not China and he was born in the US, California to be exact. No the Rockets did not only get him for financial success, Jeremy Lin has a very very bright future. His potential is out of the roof, he will be a great point guard in this league.

      • CSaintSwag

        And i knew he had potential even before he was ever with the Knicks i remember watching the summer league game when he dropped 20 points when he was with the Warriors, and he got a little buzz from that, and it mainly only talked about him coming out of Harvard.

      • CSaintSwag

        And to be honest i knew Jeremy Lin had potential way before he was even a Knick, i saw he had it in him when he dropped 20 points in the summer league game with the Warriors, he had a little buzz and it was only because he went to Harvard.

        • 49ersfan1

          he played the summer league with the mavericks, then they didnt sign him so he went to play with his favorite team, the warriors.

          • CSaintSwag

            He dropped the 20 points with the Warriors go do a little bit more research… Oh and I love how you liked your own comment and disliked mine lmfaoooo

          • 49ersfan1

            i didnt dislike and like anything? and he played with dallas in summer league

          • 49ersfan1

            Lin joined the Dallas Mavericks for mini-camp as well as their NBA Summer League team in Las Vegas.[40] Donnie Nelson of the Mavericks was the only General Manager that offered him an invitation to play in the Summer League. “Donnie took care of me,” said Lin. “He has a different type of vision than most people do.”[23]
            In five Summer League games, while playing both guard positions, Lin averaged 9.8 points, 3.2 rebounds, 1.8 assists, and 1.2 steals in 18.6 minutes per game and shot a team leading 54.5% from the floor.[41][42] He outplayed first overall pick John Wall;[30] Lin scored 13 points to Wall’s 21, but did so on 6-for-12 shooting in 28 minutes. Wall was 4-for-19 in 33 minutes.[43] While Wall received the biggest cheer for any player during introductions, the crowd turned on Wall and was cheering for Lin by the end of the game.[44] Lin received offers to sign from the Mavericks, Los Angeles Lakers, and an unnamed Eastern Conference team. In addition to the original three teams, the Golden State Warriors also offered Lin a contract.
            -wikipedia

          • 49ersfan1

            im a warriors fan… i know more about him than u do.

          • CSaintSwag

            You only know what you looked at on wikipedia, which you just looked up. Oh and no where on there does it state his 20 point game

          • 49ersfan1

            i look there so i can show u some proof. but i knew that before the warriors signed him on the news

          • 49ersfan1

            big deal? 20 points? wilt scored 100 and kobe scored 81.

      • Dymez

        Well, I know his parents are from Taiwan, which is a Mandarin island governed by the Republic of China, but that’s irrelevant. I also know he’s from here, the Bay Area, California; that is also irrelevant. Fact is, Lin’s a marketing phenom, he has a prodigious Chinese following, and the Rockets, who capitalized off of Yao’s Chinese Connection big time, knows exactly how to milk the proverbial cash cow here.

        The Rockets aren’t trying to win. You don’t trade Kyle Lowry and let Gordan Gragic walk if you’re trying to win. You don’t attempt to ship the entire team for Dwight Howard for one year either, if you’re trying to win, KNOWING he won’t sign there. Not to mention amnesty Luis Scola, who is an extremely solid 4. Look, I’m not going to throw a ruling out on Jeremy Lin and say he’ll fail with such a small sample size of 25 games. But I’m definitely not going to be incognizant in saying that “he’ll be great,” nor say his “potential is through the roof” either. Not a guy that could hardly even get the ball past half-court against Mario Chalmers. Not a guy who said, “I’m not ready to play” in the playoffs, at 85%, while his teammates all around him are dropping like flies. Not a guy who was invited to the USA select team, but declined because he didn’t want to get exposed before he receives contract offers.

        • CSaintSwag

          the Kyle Lowry trade was made because Kyle Lowry did not want to be in Houston anymore, We did let Goran Dragic walk, which i was not happy about. We did the Louis Scola thing to only clear up cap space. and the trade for Dwight we sent out is now going to change because we will be getting the Cavaliers involved if we do it. And you are talking like Mario Chalmers is not a good defensive players when he is known to be able to steal the ball. Also if you think Jeremy Lin doesn’t have a lot of potential something is wrong with you. I understand he only played 25 games, but look what he did in thoughs 25 games, he did amazing before Carmelo came back. He cant play with Carmelo, Carmelo is an Iso player, Jeremy Lin is a pick and roll player.

          • Dymez

            They traded Lowry to move on with Dragic, since Lowry had a riff with McHale and Dragic outperformed him, Lowry figured he wouldn’t be starting anyway. Doesn’t matter how you slice it, they let them both walk, which is a bad move. They amnestied Scola to make room for Dwight and his “bad contract” friends, which is a bad move because Dwight’s not staying there anyway and they’re going to have a capped roster full of overpaid below average players. Doesn’t matter how you slice it, that’s even worse.

            Miami Heat has 2 positional weaknesses; Center and Point Guard. Mario Chalmers isn’t a “good” defender, he’s a decent defender, and at times can be an above-average defender, but he’s also known to have lulls. Norris Cole, his backup, is a better defender, which is why the rookie keeps stealing Rio’s minutes. However, against Jeremy Lin, Rio was looking like the second incarnation of Gary Payton out there.

            Jeremy Lin has potential, not “through the roof” potential. Jury is still out on whether he’s actually a starter. It’s not what he did in the 25 games, it’s that he only played 25 games. When he started playing, teams didn’t even know he was on the roster. The scouting report goes out the window. When he played Miami (a team that dissects opponents tendencies better than any other), Lin was somewhere between 10-15 games in. It was reported that LeBron was going to take Lin if Rio struggled. We all know how that went. Then Rondo destroyed him the following week, and it dawned on people, this guy can’t play defense. Next thing you know, the Knicks went on a 6 game losing streak with every single point guard scoring over, at, or about 30 points each game.

            Lin has many weaknesses. The most critical being, he’s turnover prone and he’s an extremely poor defender.

          • CSaintSwag

            Dude honestly you need to do more research or listen to Houston radio you can choose, Lowry wanted to leave Houston thats why we traded him. Also John Wall is turn over prone too, doesn’t stop him from being known as a very good scorer. They have many point guards that are good on one side of the ball and not the other, not every player is going to be good at both, and Jeremy Lin is a very good passer. His strength is offense not defense.

          • Dymez

            Like I said, man, “it doesn’t matter how you slice it.” The Rockets let him go, he was coveted last season, they aren’t trying to win by doing that. I don’t want to make this a discussion about Lowry, he’s not the topic. But, he had a riff with McHale, and talks were going all last season that the Lakers (among others) wanted his services after he got hurt and Dragic outperformed him, the talks became “extend Dragic, trade Lowry.”

            “His time with the Rockets seemed to be closing when his issues with
            Kevin McHale bubbled over during the time out confrontation in Denver
            and were confirmed by his comments that he did not believe that he and
            McHale could successfully work together again.

            He had doubted the Rockets would keep him anyway, since he thought
            they would make sure Dragic knew he would be the starter if he returned.”

            http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2012/07/kyle-lowry-moves-on-barely-able-to-recognize-the-team-he-left-behind/

            Now, back to Lin. John Wall doesn’t have NEARLY the notoriety that Jeremy Lin has. That’s a really bad comparison. In terms of the talent Lin played with and Wall played with, alone, makes that a really, really bad comparison. Also, Wall isn’t known as a “very good scorer.” He’s known as an all-around point guard. Most people call him, “Rajon Rondo with size and more speed.” He can’t shoot, but he can get to the rim at will, yet he rather set up his teammates. He’s also a better defender than Lin.

            Not every player is going to be good at both defensive and offence, but there’s no such thing as a “great” point guard that’s just good on only one side of the ball. Defensively, Chris Paul is one of the best; Deron Williams is solid; Russell Westbrook is solid; Tony Parker is damn good; Derrick Rose got slammed by Nicolas Batum last year, he showed what he can do on defense. There’s a saying this league, “It doesn’t matter if you score 20 when you’re giving up 30.” I wouldn’t call Lin a “very good passer” but a good one, as he has 2 or 3 times a game where he blindly throws it away to the opposing team. I’ll credit that more to his decision making than his actual passing of the ball, however.

          • CSaintSwag

            Jeremy Lin won the Knicks games when Carmelo was out, John Wall can not win with the Wizards, When it comes down to it stats do not matter wins do. Oh an Russel Westbrook is basically a Shooting Guard he is just playing the wrong position, and anyone will tell you that. Derrick Rose is a good Point Guard he upped his APG from last year to make it look like he was an actual point guard, in my opinion. You also have to take in consideration that Jeremy Lin has not had the luxury of being able to get solid play time like all of the point guards you stated above. Last year was his first year to show what he can do, and I think he did a damn good job at showing what he can become. He will be the starter for the Rockets for the years he is there. His ball handling will improve, his passing will improve, and get better then what it is right now. Give him a year or two getting start after start, he will improve. This is a great grab for the Rockets, and I look forward to watching him play every game.

          • Dymez

            With you saying “John Wall cannot win with the Wizards,” that basically summed up exactly what I was saying about why it’s a horrible comparison. If Wall had Knicks talent around him, he was better than Lin last season, he’d be even better with them.

            Russell Westbrook is a college converted shooting guard into a point guard. Doesn’t matter, because he’s still a great point guard.

            Derrick Rose doesn’t “look” like an actual point guard. He’s been one since he was in high school; he is a point guard.

            The fact that Lin hasn’t had solid playing time, like I said, helped him. He jumped out the gate with high scoring games in succession. As he started creating film on himself, he struggled. He didn’t handle defensive pressure and traps well, at all, and he became predictable. He will get better than what he is right now. The question is, “What is he?” No one knows. 25 games is not enough.

          • CSaintSwag

            He is an offensive player, when I say this I’m not even joking, I believe that he has the potential to end up putting up stats such as 17 ppg 8 apg and 4 rpg.

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  • http://twitter.com/TreyIM2 TreyIM2

    I think the Knicks made a big mistake, without getting too deep into this, however, word is that Lin reinjured his knee and had to undergo more treatment/surgery, as well. That could have played into this, as well.

  • GoNets!

    He’s not worth that much money in the 3rd year of his contract, so it was a good basketball decision by the Knicks. He probably would have sold a lot of jerseys the first couple of games of the season and even more if he kept up his incredible run. However, I think the Knicks played the safe odds that he can’t sustain that level of play for 82 games.

    • CSaintSwag

      They only gave him that much money in the 3rd year so the Knicks wouldn’t be able to match it without having to pay a lot of Luxury tax money.

  • http://twitter.com/Yaboythecib Christian

    jeremy is a bum anyway….

    • dddddd

      we all know your jealous about his contract and fame..
      i dont give a shit about him, but hes a good player from what i’ve seen last year.

      • dddddd

        and he was good before new york but didnt get the chance

  • ConCity Soldier

    Jeremy Lin is a pretty good PG with great potential. Lin is still young and has already done a lot of great stuff, and he hasn’t reached his ceiling yet. When Lin reaches his ceiling & if he works hard enough he can be a superstar in the future. The only problem is he’s going to be on a bad team now. Lin will still make plays & play great basktball, but he might be forgotten in Houston. The Rockets have to get more help around him in order to win. The New York Knicks will be the same team they were last year, they will squeak into the playoffs & exit early. Phil Jackson even said that the Knicks don’t have the right fit to win a championship. I doubt they can even past the first round in my opinion. But we shall see what happens….

    • dddddd

      lin wouldve been better if he got more respect and playing time before he went to New York

    • CSaintSwag

      The Rockets are not terrible. If they were in the East they would make the playoffs a lot. To bad they are in the West which is a very tough conference. We still have Kevin Martin, Chandler Parsons, Patrick Patterson, Courtney Lee, Jeremy Lamb we are a pretty solid team. I’m almost positive Jeremy Lin will be able to work with the Rockets line up.

  • ClipsFan

    On the court, it’s hard to call Lin’s February run “unprecedented.” Goran Dragic put up comparable numbers over a similar stretch in March. Bring on Gor-sanity, I suppose.

  • Knicks fan112

    He has no left hand, and will be garbage in Houston not cause the team is young or not talented but because the true garbage will come out. He played well against players with no energy cause they played 3-5 games a week and he was fresh. What if he is injury prone and can’t play a full 82? TERRIBLE TERRIBLE contract

    • 49ersfan1

      ur probably just pissed the knicks didnt get him. what a bastard.
      -lakers fan

    • CSaintSwag

      Someones mad lmaoooo

  • http://twitter.com/Smokez4Dayz Black Irish

    it only works in NYC, the over hype, but he is still a top prospect. consider his 35 games equal to a college phenom 30 games, we sign the draft pick to big dollars all the time. He did his audition in NYC with selfish players and hard to please fans, he succeeded here (Im in NYC), he will be fine in Houston, just not a mega star.

  • Wiser

    Gotta say it……

    My football coach used to always say, “When you have potential, that means you are shit. Do you wanna be full of potential?”

  • cm979

    I think the Knicks should of gotten rid of Stoudemire. For one Carmello is the best player on the team and plays better when Stoudemire isn’t playing.

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