Madden NFL 13 Demo Impressions

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Posted August 16th, 2012 at 9:30 am

Ever since the announcement of the “Infinity Engine” physics for Madden NFL 13 the demo took on greater importance than usual. A consumer base that has grown skeptical of EA Sports and their touting of new features would need not just to see it in action but feel its presence for themselves to make judgment on. There is a lot more in the way of improvements to Madden 13 but that would be the big one in swaying perception. My initial feeling on the implementation was quite positive and it has only solidified since.

Much of what to follow is just a rundown of things noted in the demo as most of the impressions from playing the game at E3 carry over and don’t need to be repeated.

When it comes to the physics it’s important to trust the outcome. There are going to be moments that look bizarre but as long as they are limited and are not affecting the result of a play the benefits of the physics far outweigh them. It’s important to actually play Madden 13 rather than just watch videos and make any determination as the physics really prove greatly beneficial even though visually collisions may not always look appropriate.

EA Sports made a tactical decision to provide a rich demo and it has paid off. If an odd moment due to the physics arose early in play, particularly with a short quarter demo, that would stick in the mind of that person who witnessed it. By having longer quarters and more options any abnormalities are more easily overlooked due to the ratio of positive results to those that may stand out for the wrong reasons. FIFA 12′s implementation of physics was much more wonky – and oftentimes actually affected results adversely – and yet that game was still applauded for for taking that technical plunge. Madden has been able to limit the problems to an admirable degree and for the most part those generally happen post-play anyway.

The lead-in packages to games will quickly get tiring. The thing is to remember that they are there in place of static load screens. In that sense they are welcome. Presentation wise the replays aren’t broadcast style but more akin to what is found in the NCAA Football series and that is a downgrade. There is also a lack of drama particularly after big plays and touchdowns. Replays are even inconsistently shown and often don’t trigger for them. Players walking right through stadium walls – especially when shown again on replays – impacts immersion too.

Commentary has been a pleasant surprise. The flow is much improved compared to previous years with relevant discussion taking place. Jim Nantz and Phil Simms bring a gravity to games that other announcers have failed to do. It’s better than what I anticipated just hearing bits and pieces at E3. What really needs to be tuned is how Nantz calls out all the pre-play adjustments. Within one game I was already tired of Nantz noting my press coverage on nearly every play. There are also some inaccuracies. For example Russell Wilson is continually talked about as being a veteran and Marshawn Lynch, who’s 26, is discussed as though he was past his prime and since has resurrected his career.

Audio in general is much better with the crowd factoring in more than in the past. One issue encountered though was with challenges where the crowd did not react to the result. In one situation the home team caught a TD pass and it was reviewed and upheld but the crowd stayed silent. In another the home team was ruled out of bounds on a catch in the end zone but it was reversed again met by silence. Speaking of challenges….has anyone seen reviews after turnovers? The booth should be reviewing every turnover now the same way every TD is reviewed.

Basic gameplay improvements such as working play-action and new pass trajectories are evident and very welcome. Special teams is also much better with at least now the possibility to return kicks and punts as the blocking actually opens some holes. Personnel used on special teams isn’t always proper though. Kellen Winslow really shouldn’t be on the kick coverage team. Had a few instances where fair catches were called on punts and the returner didn’t catch it or actually moved out of the way and let it bounce only to run it down and then try to gain yardage. The CPU plays pretty competently but there are some serious concerns about their handling of clock management. Too many cases of inexcusable decision making late in the 2nd and 4th quarters.

•A new addition is the ability to send a tweet to Twitter or post to Facebook with the results at the end of a completed game. That’s a nice feature but the wording is currently messed up and no @ symbol is in front of the username within the tweet.

•For the most part I like the change from a soundtrack to themes composed in-house.

•Posted my earlier initial thoughts on Kinect for Xbox 360 here.

•The full depth charts are even available in the demo meaning full player ratings for the Seahawks, Redskins, Giants, and 49ers can be checked out. For those who’d like to see the Seahawks ratings the majority were pulled and posted here.

The time spent with the Madden NFL 13 demo has been the most enjoyable of any in recent memory. Much of that is due to the rhythm that can be built with the fantastic structure provided – full five minute quarter games with two matchups and some adjustable settings – but the freshness of the game is immediately apparent. Hopefully that feeling will transfer over to the retail version where scrutiny will obviously be increased but so will the amount of content available.

  • 49ersfan1

    Oh yeah they shud add the new rules

  • 49ersfan1

    actually, KR’s and PR’s are harder this year. last year i’d return atleast 1 per game (Pro Diff.) and this year i barely run for 10 yards.

  • Dwillie

    I think the demo is good, but it seems like the recievers drops alot of passes

  • fudgebar@optonline.net

    This
    demo literally had me Laffin my F%$&ing A$$ OFF as I shut it off
    mid way thru the 3rd quarter…..This is a pure embarrassment! WTF are
    they thinking over at EA???

    This physics engine and its awkward hunchbacked zig zag running no
    foot planting lack of weight distributing air walking models was ready
    for prime time!???

    Jeeze Luuuueeeeeze…..PLEEEEZE!!! This is pure gaboge!…….gimme
    back Madden 10 and updated rosters and tweaks and I’ll settle for
    THAT!!

    EA you should be ashamed!!……..

    going back to ALL PRO 2K8 with the new NFL ROSTERS….Now THATS a realistic and fun Football game!

  • Chris

    I didn’t think the demo was as near as bad as what many are stating it is. In fact I respect the design decissions that EA made as all are steps in the right direction. The OS roundtable made a comparison of two demos. Important question to be answered how close to the game is the demo? Until someone answers that question and plays the game we’re SOL. I ignore commentary in general because it’s going to get old. I’m starting to watch actual games on mute because I’m annoyed by actual commentary of games. I appreciate the tv presentation elements they are attempting to bring in. And I agree that they left some legacy issues that will likely always be that. To answer the graphics question someone asked. In basket ball you have about 12 models to render and a court. Football many more objects and field elements to render. This is why graphically football games won’t compare to basketball or any other sport. And will likely look to lag behind further as hardware gets more powerful.

  • NinoMarley

    The controls to me feel none responsive at times… I get its the demo but when i want to crack someone i feel i dont have that kind of control to do so.

  • Rm7280

    Clearly for the causal gamer, or mentally challenged

  • Vodka IOIproof

    Ok For Starters i believe the game has begun to evolve.. EA understand ; “Hey we need to do something before our monopoly agreement runs out” Hence the so-called “upgrades” or “improvements”

    i will agree.. Simms calling out my pre-snap adjustments is lame.. every time you do one h says whats going on.. that’s just way overbearing on many levels.. its up to the user to see what their opponent is doing. not for Simms to help them out

    As far as the Passing “improvement” i think they just did the same thing as NCAA.. the passing is almost the same style.. so i believe i think its tweaked a lot better than M’12 passing .. if you compare M’12 n M’13 Demo

    The Replay System.. OMG.. needs to go.. Zoomed in on players and not the entire play sucks.. id rather have a aerial shot, like from a blimp or top of the stadium view.. its really piss poor..

    Also has anyone noticed.. the Refs are Turned around when they are announcing a penalty? lol.. kinda funny.. since they should always facing the camera hahah..

    Now the catching part is rather weird… i mean i dropped WIDE OPEN passes with V. Davis and S. Moss… which i think both players have the best hands on each team dropped it on ALL-Madden Settings.. When you go to the sliders.. on ALL-Madden the User catching is down to 25%…. so its cool to miss a couple in traffic.. or getting hit after catching.. yea.. understandable.. but WIDE OPEN does not make any sence… so i guess i wil just play on ALL-Pro untill they fix that.. i know that you can adjust it.. but i still believe its EA’s game and they need to fix it.. not myself..

    the Physic’s System.. Awesome…. to a point.. i Hit-Stick A LOT… and im sorry.. when B. Orakpo hits a smaller player like SEA L. Washington in the backfield.. i expect him to fly back.. not bounce off him and fly off to the races.. i mean the Hit-Stick and Stripping have basically made your DEF terrible… theres no point due to the fact that either one you do the WR/TE/RB just bounce out of it and continue past you.. like nothing happened.. im sorry.. bring back the old Hit Stick At least.. the stripping.. yea.. understandable since your tackling.. but if i lay down the WOOD.. they better go down..

    and to note.. i know that the NFL is tryign to make the game safer.. but could EA just put in some real collisions? i mean at least Helmet to Helmet whip arounds.. showing some sort of concussions.. look at Backbreaker for some crazy hits EA lol..

    But Overall.. I Will Still buy the game because that is the only game available to me.. i know its just a videogame.. nothings perfect.. but get the problems that have plagued the series down 1st… like the AI.. (Secondary Issues) the Crowd (NO RESPONSE TO BIG PLAYS!!) But I will buy it.. and play the game pretty much everyday.. but its the onyl game i will prolly play for a whole year.. so it does warrant the $60 to me.. since now a days where can you spend $60 for a whole years worth of fun? lol..

    • Khadeem

      its called getting a gym membership you lazy bum…jk…lol

      • Vodka IOIproof

        ^ yea kinda funny you say that… i didnt know working 40 hrs a week and coming home after work to play 1 game a day means im a lazy bum.. hrrrm.. damn. did i miss that memo? wait.. JK.. i guess i am a lazy bum.. next time Khadeem.. when ya wanna voice your own mind.. do it with a bit more class.. because JK.. didnt do anything but make your comment look more sarcastic.. but its cool.. i will welcome all comments… good.. bad.. ugly.. messed up.. because everyone is entitled to it.. just next time.. pony up and and just say what ya mean.. don’t puss out n say JK… kinda lame in my eyes..

        • Khadeem

          dude get out of ur feelings…I dont know anything about u…calm down…if i wanted call a lazy bum then i would…there isnt a way for to jump thru the computer an assualt bro…so there is no need to “pony up”…lighten up…it clearly was a joke…u take urself to seriously…smh

  • Sniper

    “Commentary has been a pleasant surprise.”

    Are you fuckin kidding me Patsa? Really? They don’t even say the player’s names 90% of the time when they make plays. They either call the players by their number or position. Even the fuckin PA announcers call the players by their numbers! How in the hell is that realistic? That’s a fuckin joke! Plus the commentators don’t even seem to get excited when a big play happens. The commentary in this game is laughable at best, and you should be ashamed of yourself for saying otherwise. I know you love EA but Jesus dude, let’s be real here!

    • FUCK EA

      YEAH MAN THAT;S TOTAL BULLSHIT. IN REAL NFL FOOTBALL THEY SAY THE NAMES OF THE PLAYERS ON EVERY PLAY! EA SUCKS ASS!

  • FUCK EA

    ONCE AGAIN MADDEN BLOWS, AND ALL YOU DUMB FUCKS WILL KEEP BUYING IT MAKING EA NOT HAVE TO IMPROVE IT! WHY SHOULD THEY WHEN YOU’RE JUST GONNA BUY IT EVERY YEAR NO MATTER WHAT ANYWAY? DON’T BLAME EA, BLAME YOURSELVES YOU DUMB FOOLS, LOL!

    • Khadeem

      yep…that is why i refuse to purchase madden this year

  • Mikejack

    I’m so sick of people talking about the game. If u dont like DON’T FUCKING BUY IT.

  • Kaylab44

    AM STILL NOT ABLE TO DOWNLOAD THE DEMO, ANY OTHER GAME IS BEING DOWNLOADED ON MY SYSTEM EASILY, WHY AM I GETTING “STATUS CODE: 8C230002″ ON MY SYSTEM ONLY WHEN AM TRYING TO DOWNLOAD THE MADDEN 13 DEMO, COULD SOMEONE GIVE ME A SALUTION FOR A FIX PLEASE!!!

  • Dan

    You people that continue to buy this game year in and year out are all F**KHEADS!!!!!! YOU are the reason why EA doesn’t give a sh*t about putting a respectable product out there because they know that YOU people are too stupid to realize what your doing. How difficult is it to put together a decent replay scheme? HOW FREAKIN’ DIFFICULT IS IT TO HAVE THE CROWD CHEER AFTER A TOUCHDOWN??? Stop buying the damn game and they will have no choice but to actually take pride in their work.

  • Dan

    “Everything you see on Sunday” Really? Because I don’t see repetitive replays where the camera is zoomed in on the freakin’ ball while the announcers are upstairs pickin’ their noses not saying a word. No commentary, hardly any background noise, just a zoomed in shot on a player that cut’s away as soon as something important happens. Holy sh*t this game pisses me off beyond belief.

  • cmonman

    YOU forgot to mention the lack of assisted tackles

  • Yes We Cam

    And is it just me or are spec. catch receivers unstoppable? Randy Moss is like an 84 overall and I had 10 receptions for 300 yards and 3 touchdowns on All-Madden. If Randy can do that, I’m honestly disgusted just thinking about playing the Lions online…

  • ed

    What’s with the higher team ratings? Ea put out initial team ratings and both giants and niners were much lowe than what was on demo

  • jastone837

    having played the demo for a while now i’ve made a mental note of some things..the pass rush is ridiculous..less than two seconds and i have to throw or run if i don’t want to get sacked..offensive line play has got to improve or the deep routes won’t exist..again, too many dropped int’s by either a linebacker or a corner..for some reason, RG3 can’t outrun a 270 pound defensive lineman around the corner..i’ve tried it on every play of a quarter just to see how consistent it is and i get run down every time..unnacceptable..also..the commentary is the worst i’ve heard in years..one one drive alone here were the errors: on 1st down, a screen pass for seven yards that drew a comment from Phil that i needed to get a first down. 3rd and 26…a ten yard pass play leaving 4th down & 16 got a comment from Phil that it now left a 3rd and short and could open up the playbook since it wasn’t 3rd and long..and repeatedly in the 4th quarter with under a minute to go Phil mentions that the Seahawks needed a first down to get momentum that they could use later in the game…it’s abysmal and it’s got to stop..i love the graphics although the collisions are not consistent with momentum so it looks completely strange more often than not.

  • Dan

    Just out of curiosity, are the GOD AWFUL replays and lack of crowd noise after big plays, touchdowns, challenges, etc., something that EA could fix before the game officially drops? I would assume those are simple fixes; but then again, I know absolutely nothing about game development. Also, does Pasta have any affiliation with EA? I can’t believe that somebody I sort of stumbled across this sight a couple day’s ago and haven’t had a chance to read much of his literature. I find it hard to believe that someone, whom I consider to be an expert based on the type of website he owns, could truly believe that the sorry excuse for commentary was a “pleasant surprise”.

  • MackSwagger

    Madden 13 will be solid.

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  • http://twitter.com/DinoBozzo Dino Bozzo

    This madden franchise is a joke. the demo plays out just wierd. it’s too fast on all madden. wtf! this better just be in the demo and a more pollished game when it comes out. but they obviously don’t care cause we end up bullying there lame product. what other choice do we have. guess what they have the perfect football game but they will never release it cause that doesn’t make money. stretching this out year after year with the same crap is profitable.

  • GOAT

    demos better then i thought but the new engine needs to be touched up with all the tripping and exaggerated falling..and correction to the article it has affected my game-play if you try to hit a hole with a lb and then try to scrap to the sideline u trip and fall or stumble out of the play its just to much…but as much as i don’t want to admit it seems better for the most part..all i truly care about is eliminating the cheese shit and with the few things they did we might be ok for legit online play…. and not sure who said it but someone posted all QBs seem the same and i agree and the guy who corrected him its not due to the user if all QBs are the same and there’s nothing that can be done then EA needs to eliminate ratings…i shouldnt be able to play with alex smith then eli and see no diffrence…but hopefully the full game will be better

  • SilkCB21

    ta I have to say I kinda don’t like the “ball hawk” feature in this years
    Madden especially if all D backs can do it…my reasons are for one I think it takes all the skill out of playing the ball…I mean before you had to position urself. Now all u have to do is hold “Y” and the CPU takes over…that sounds like it Sud b available only while playin on rookie…next why do they continue to call it new…as far as I kno u was always able to hold why and the DB wud go get it..difference is the CPU takes over…idk I jus feel lik now ur user picks won’t feel as special…yours thoughts on my thoughts?!?!?!

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