No one bought NBA Live 16

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Posted October 20th, 2015 at 8:45 am

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It was evident that NBA Live 16 was DOA as soon as it released. Activity numbers in the game were dreadful, and ever since even at peak hours there aren’t more than 120 or so people connected and playing. While it’s difficult to get any actual sales numbers these days we now have a true indication of just how poorly the game has done. 

The numbers extrapolated from NPD results for September on Neogaf show NBA Live 16 as having sold just over 8,000 copies in North America. That’s compared to well over a million for NBA 2K16 in the same region. As 2K has been consistently growing, Live’s share continues to shrink, going from about 2-3% of the basketball market in the last few years to now under 1%.

It was somewhat surprising that EA Sports continued the Live franchise following Live 15. Sales trended downward, as everyone knew they would, after the disaster that was Live 14. The future outlook only worsened and while the quality of the series may be increasing, it has not been doing so at the same rate of the competition which has only widened the gap since the series returned. Not only is Live an afterthought for basketball fans, but crammed into a window where there are so many other sports games and others competing for dollars that it’s not even a blip on the radar for consumers. All the bad publicity prior to release can’t even be blamed here as very few actually were considering purchasing it anyway.

EA has continued Live because they imagined it would gain traction in sales even if slowly as an alternative option, that they could capitalize on the weaknesses in the competition’s product, that the digital revenue of Ultimate Team would eventually pull them out of the hole, and that the market was large enough to support two titles. While that last point may be true in some alternate reality, the company has failed in all other respects, and there’s almost no scenario where any of that could change over the next several years. That brings into question yet again how EA could attempt and justify more yearly losses ahead to investors.

Should EA Sports desire the presence of basketball in their portfolio they have a number of other options including bringing back NBA Street or taking Live and turning it into a free-to-play product centered around the Ultimate Team concept.

  • Brad Davis

    Mainstream sees NBA 2K as the definitive basketball sim (as these sales obviously show).

    EA needs to just throw in the towel and make a basketball game that can sell decently alongside NBA 2K. A new NBA Street would get attention from non-sports gamers as well as NBA 2K players due to its different play style.

    If I was in charge of EA, I would instantly cancel any plans for an NBA Live 17 and start work on a revival of NBA Street to be released in 2017 with the game being EA’s NBA game for the rest of the gen (thanks to constant updates in rosters, courts, modes, etc.). The attention an NBA Street revival announcement would get would be HUGE on many sites (e.g.: Worldstar Hip-Hop). It would get as much attention as NBA Elite got but this would be for POSITIVE reasons instead of negative. I’m saying this as someone who was a huge fan of NBA Street (Vol. 2) though. I have never been in charge of a company (haha).

    • MoneyMayweather

      Why do you think EA would get NBA street right? if they can’t even get NBA live right? did you even play NBA street homecourt on 7th gen consoles it was a far cry from the fun that was the sixth gen versions. I’m all for NBA street being released but I doubt even that would get Gamers to buy an EA basketball game.

      • Brad Davis

        Not sure I understand the comparison. Sim is much harder to do right than arcade. I did play Homecourt and while it wasn’t the best NBA Street game (Vol. 2), it was still solid and I enjoyed it. It was far more fun than any of the recent NBA Live games.

        • hungryandrew

          I said before, EA will make more money if they re-introduce a new NBA Street, scrap Live, it is not cutting it.

          • Jerry Tyler

            And why is it not cutting it because it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles of 2k because it doesn’t have scripted animations that sometimes you can’t get out of ?

          • hungryandrew

            Can’t be serious right? Maybe it has the same animations from ps2,.

    • Keith.

      Nobody’s paying $60 for an NBA Street game in 2015 (or 2017). Maybe for a $2.99 iPad game, but that’s about it.

      • Brad Davis

        Never said anything about a price. But even IF it was $60 it would still more than likely do better than what NBA Live has done for these past 3 years.

    • Jay (The Truth)

      Not that simple. I doubt an arcade game gets much of a budget. Not to mention, the landscape of gaming has changed massively. Unless it’s a digital download for $10-$15, guaranteed to fail. More competition for people’s dollars than ever. It’s unprecedented the amount of options consumers have. Whether full price/game or smaller project, I don’t see the potential profit in it to where EA would invest in it. Live is bad, but they could live in the illusion that it could one day command what 2K does as far as revenue. There’s no non mobile arcade sports game generating big revenue.

    • Jerry Tyler

      Ea needs to throw in the towel really dude competition is everything if anything you should want eA to make good games in order to make your game better

      • Kelsey Bennett

        But the people that show up in those meetings don’t care about that. They want a return on the investment. Live just not doing it, so yeah they’ll cut this game before losing anymore money on it. They would rather throw in the towel.

  • I’ve actually taken note of that. O’Brien hasn’t tweeted since September 24.

    • Michael Hawj

      lol He and his devs team are embarrassed of themselves that why he haven’t tweeted yet

    • hungryandrew

      Maybe he’s on watch due to this embarrassment.

      • Michael Hawj

        lol

    • Well i have spoken to Sean and the game is fine and there working on something and a major patch.

  • MoneyMayweather

    LMAO I was one of the 8,000. I noticed when I was playing live ultimate team and searched for players on the auction block there was only a few players there I could tell there wasn’t that many players playing NBA live ultimate team. I know the game sucks but I play it on reputation alone and remember NBA live 2003-07. Seems like when Graphics got cleaner all of EA Basketball games weakness showed like the Physics. They could hide them in the Sixth gen because graphics were good but not that great. Since everyone is so angry about live I guess the series has to be cancelled but I bought it full price happy with my purchase but I can see how other people are angry not just about NBA live but Madden also.

    but I doubt people will stop buying Madden so will never get NFL 2k at least not in this generation.

    • WilsonRamos

      the games sold so few its almost limited edition lol

    • Brett

      Who is mad about Madden? This years version of Madden might be the best I’ve ever played.

      • MoneyMayweather

        Madden is souless only offense is fun playing defense is boring. Kick offs are souless

        I think the only way NBA live gets out of this hole is to pony up as much cash as they can and offer it to the NBA for an exclusive video game license.

        Only way to beat competition is to end the competition Madden style baby

  • Smsixx

    8000 copies sold in North America…

    I bet half of those are already sitting on the used rack at your local GameStop or resale store.

    I loved Live when I was a kid (Hell…I remember putting hours in on “Bulls vs Lakers” on Genesis) and that was a great time…but when I got NBA 2K1 on my Sega Dreamcast I haven’t looked back…despite that Live was still a good basketball title for years and debates could be justified between the two games.

    Another sad tale of EA butchering a once classic franchise.

    • MoneyMayweather

      Yup Math checks out.

    • BravesFan24

      Seems that EA is good at that – butchering their own games that were once great. Other than maybe FIFA, what series do they own that they haven’t sunk?

      • MoneyMayweather

        Battlefront

      • Keith.

        Here’s a list of their sports games, or at least the ones that still have an official EA forum. And it’s not pretty:

        — EA SPORTS UFC — on life support, after UFC flopped.
        — FIFA Series — big seller, big FUT revenue
        — FIGHT NIGHT — on life support, if not gone
        — Grand Slam Tennis — seemingly gone
        — Madden NFL Series — declining sales
        — Madden Ultimate Team — the wildcard
        — NBA JAM — gone
        — NBA LIVE Series — life support/gone
        — NCAA Football Series — gone (thanks to EA’s greed)
        — NCAA Ultimate Team — gone
        — NFL Blitz — gone
        — NHL Series — life support
        — SSX — gone
        — EA SPORTS Rory McIlroy PGA TOUR — life support
        — Tiger Woods PGA TOUR Online — gone

        http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/categories/list.page

        • BravesFan24

          Thanks, that pretty much sums it up. The amazing thing is that most of those series were great at one time or another. How do you ruin THAT MANY games? Seriously. Messing up one game is bad, but it takes a special kind of bad to have multiple triple A titles and pretty much wreck all but one.

          • Keith.

            Guess it’s technically not a sports game, but I think they’re looking at another sales disaster with the upcoming Need for Speed. Less than 2 weeks before release, and it’s been just above NBA Live territory on the best sellers list at Amazon, whereas games like Halo 5 and Fallout, which release around the same time, are near the top of the list every day. That’s another game where XBoners, at least, would have no reason to buy when they know it will be in the Vault in no time.

        • WilsonRamos

          in reality they have three proper franchises FIFA,Madden and NHL the rest no one cares about.

          • BravesFan24

            FIFA is the only of those 3 right now that isn’t either in jeopardy or putting out questionable quality.

    • DounteOnlineFranchises

      😔😔

  • Adam Lathrom

    I really hope NHL does well. It’s a really good game. I don’t have a problem finding an EASHL game or an Ultimate Team game. When me and my buddies try to match each other up in ranked games, it’s pretty hard to find each other due to finding different people each time. So there’s people playing it.

  • hungryandrew

    NBA DIED 16

  • hungryandrew

    EA has no choice, if there’s a Live 17, release it at 30 bucks, I’m sorry, no one will buy this game at a full price of 60 dollars.

    • That’s not an option due to the contract terms with the NBA.

      • hungryandrew

        Take 2 did it with NFL 2k5

        • And ever since leagues have made sure to include clauses on the earliest date for release and full price requirement.

          • hungryandrew

            Oh ok, nevermind.

          • Weekend Roady

            Why do leagues care about price? Hasn’t EA paid them for the licensing already?

          • It’s about their brand – they don’t want the perception of being a “discount” brand – and having an even playing field if there is more than one licensee (otherwise you’d get them trying to one-up each other over and over)

      • Realballplayers

        You know reason the game hasn’t sold well is because you you 2k fan boys have your lips wrapped around 2ks dick so hard you won’t even take the time to give the game a try in my opinion theses games aren’t that far apart I bought live because I like live better and I played 2k 16 the high school and college is really a nice touch but other than that live is a lot more fun I think those of you who like 2k better are video game players and not real ball players so I understand so if you don’t like don’t buy it in fact the only negative reviews of the game I’ve seen is on pastapadre

        • Iown You

          Bull.

          When you sell 8,000 copies of a AAA game with the visibility Live has, it has little to do with the competition and more to do with the fact that your game is crap.

        • Some Body

          You tryna make people feel bad for being smart with their money, unlike you?

        • There have been a lot of good reviews and bad ones but the ones that are bad like IGN is typical. Live has progressed every yr however its not the DEv Team its the suits who hold the DEv team back and there ideas. Why you think Wang and O Gallagher left well Scott had other reasons as well but direction differences and the suits have to let the Dev Team do there job so Live can get back to where it needs to be however the suits are into gimmicks ….just how they let Madden be good this yr gotta do it with Live period

    • MoneyMayweather
    • BravesFan24

      Even at $30 it’d likely be money down the drain.

  • hungryandrew

    Moneymayweather, are you in your room crying?

  • MoneyMayweather

    Are you down with the NBA live movement?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta3B03UsI80

    TIME TO MAKE GAMERS CRY

    Let’s Outright buy the NBA basketball license EA. So they can’t play anything but NBA live and sell billions!

  • hungryandrew

    He was probably aware of the poor sales of Live 16, so maybe he threw his hands in the air and gave up?

  • Masood Mansour

    just too much competition in a very short period.. what ea needs to do is charge an annual flat rate for access to all of their games like ea access but for new games like 100 a year… this is first year i did not buy madden or fifa as the access vault has the ’15 version

  • The truth

    Same thing would happen to Madden if 2k had the rights as well. EA makes sub par games. It’s no wonder why they are not successful.

    • Keith.

      Exactly. One thing’s for sure, they wouldn’t be able to release the 18GB games that the media lets them get away with releasing now, not when there’d be a 52GB competitor on the shelf.

    • Relax & Take notes

      Ea madden is not successful or Ea in general?

      • The truth

        Bro it took them 10 years to add women fans in the stands.

  • hungryandrew

    Pasta, this has to be the biggest flop/failure release of a sports title in recent years, am I right? Barely over 8,000 , yikes.

  • hungryandrew

    where are all the people who were saying Live is back? Besides moneymayweather.

    • Keith.

      Daley’s really the only other Live fan I know. And he never shows his face around here in the months after Live’s release. If there’s a Live 17, and that’s a big if, we’ll see him a few weeks before launch saying “this is going to be the year…” LoL

      • Oh he’s active on my facebook page though, telling me how biased I am against Live lol.

      • hungryandrew

        I actually thought Moneymayweather was Daley’s “alter ego” on this site.

        • DounteOnlineFranchises

          Real talk…. I enjoy reading Timothy Daley comments on the NBA LIVE FACEBOOK page but seriously big homie:::???, STOP!!!! NBA LIVE 16 fucking sucks those hard to reach ball hairs bro….. Stop, fam!!! That shit dead man, it’s dead ( In O-Dogs voice )😤 NBA 2K16 off the meat-rack…. Peace!!

      • WilsonRamos

        i was a massive live fan until the debacle that was elite , then I’ve been 2K ever since

        • BravesFan24

          Same here. Elite bruised the series and Live 14 finished it.

  • hungryandrew

    They actually showed parts of the game at E3, advertised it a little, and this, I actually feel sorry for them. If it’s available for 20 bucks on Black Friday, maybe I’ll purchase it.

  • Scott Dorian Dancer

    I am really surprised the the pro am did not do well. seeing as its free and you dont need to put money to progress your player. also i found that mode fun. the main game all though better still has a few mechanical problems. they should have went the full arcade route mabey. make the game a little over the top like the old arcade games run and gun. they still have that opportunity. still need to tweak there cameras as well.

  • Michael Hawj

    NBA live 16 is 59 on Metacritic. lol. EA screwed up NBA live 15 and 16 for two years in a row

    • DounteOnlineFranchises

      You sir don’t know what the fuck your talking about… NBA LIVE 14 gameplay wise is still better than NBA 2K10-14 hands down!!!! NBA LIVE 15 was the best basketball game made minus a few fucked up animations but gameplay wise 2K never touched those 2 since the series returned!!! If you played 14 long enough to dig deep, the shit was tuned to perfection with all those patches!!!!

      • Michael Hawj

        lol you are very idiot to play those shitty games. don’t fucking talk to me if you are huge fan of NBA Live games

        • DounteOnlineFranchises

          Who the fuck are you to even talk too🙅🏻🙅🏻🙅🏻??? whatever!!! I knew you were just bumping your gums.. You’ve never even played any of those releases.. Just like the rest of the stupid fanboys that can’t adapt to sports games because you got little baby rat hands…

  • hungryandrew

    I said buried in the bargain bin, come October, that was a understatement. This game was cremated.

  • truth_cutz

    I’m not trolling…but I didn’t realized the game had actually been released. I thought it was coming out this month.

  • jerrytsao

    That same thread revealed PES was only sold for 15K, abysmal number from both football & basketball VG competitors, which is very sad.

    • No one would expect PES to get a big chunk of the market in North America. It has its regions around the world where it does well though.

      • jerrytsao

        Sure in some european countries or Japan, but being the ugly stepchild in 2 biggest market UK & US doesn’t look good despite having rave reviews received, the downfall of PES is quite similar to NBA Live timeline-wise, the only difference is Konami finally getting themselves together only to realize new generation gamers are no longer paying attention to the classic franchise.

      • WilsonRamos

        Pes struggles due to reputation, most people blindly buy fifa whatever the rating or changes/ or lack of, a lot of people get put off by the lack of a premier league license.

  • Skopin

    I wonder how many people are holding off on buying it knowing that it will eventually be free in the EA Access vault.

    Personally, I like it, but knowing I can get it for free in a couple months makes me not even really think of buying it. Couple that with the fact that 2k has improved a ton this year on the court, and I can’t justify spending the money on Live. If only 2k could get the atmosphere right…

    • hungryandrew

      Completely agree, 1 thing I give LIve credit is the atmosphere. The crowd in 2k sounds dead.

  • MCJedi1

    The People Have Spoken!! NFL, Are You Listening?

    • hungryandrew

      NFL do not care, EA paying boat load for exclusivity

    • BravesFan24

      Unfortunately, probably not. The NFL doesn’t seem to care.

  • Rob

    Can’t say I’m surprised. You’d have to be a die hard Live fan to buy it.

    Speaking of die hard Live fan…I would love to see daley’s response to this.

  • Brian
  • MoneyMayweather

    Pro am is free broham

    • Just a guy

      It’s free inside the game that you have to pay $60 for.

      • MoneyMayweather

        NBA live demo

  • DounteOnlineFranchises

    😔 I’ve supported EA and NBA LIVE most of my life and to download a demo that felt worse than NBA LIVE 2000-2014, really touched me the wrong way!! I couldn’t believe it but me being a NBA LIVE diehard, it was a Day 1 for me.. Now, I’d seen some NBA 2K16 gameplay that didn’t look anything like pass years that made me take a second look.. Now keep in mind, I haven’t played NBA 2K since 2K1 and of course you know I hated the series! 😦 The 2K early release came first on the 25 so I bought it…… BEST BASKETBALL GAME EVER!!!!!!! FUCKING EVER!!!! I was blown away!!!!😢😳😰😨😱🙀😦 NBA LIVE died that day….. I instantly boiled over with hate for the NBA LIVE DEVELOPMENT TEAM which I still carry to make a long story short!!! Right now, I’d rather they let the game go now and hand everything over to them 2K boys ( CANT BELIEVE I SAID THIS ) instead of degrading the series even more!!! I mean 2K16 is a patch away from being FLAWLESS!!!! EA needs to let our NBA LIVE series be and our memories shall last forever!!! EA NBA PLAY GROUND or some shit like that would sit well with them… NBA 2K16 is so far ahead of the shit EA is trying to do ( NOW ) the shit ain’t funny! Somewhere EA, lost their way in just two fucking years… NBA LIVE 14 was a better game than 16 and 15 was a masterpiece… EA just fucked it all up…….

    • Spanky

      Good point

  • Kid Fleetfoot

    I bought NBA 2K15 for PS4 and hate it. Couldn’t find rosters, no Association, and loading error. NBA 2K15 for PS3 has Association and I can use CD music that’s on my PS3 hard drive. I liked it. So I decided no 2K16 for PS4 but I did buy the 2K16 for PS3 and as far as I can tell, it’s basically the same except for updated rosters. How they messed up the game is completely beyond my comprehension. We’re better off buying a basketball and go looking for a gym, at least as far as the PS4 version.

    • Spanky

      Wow you’re so right

    • DounteOnlineFranchises

      This guy is an asshole… No one plays last gen sports titles anymore….

      • Kid Fleetfoot

        Ignoring the asshole comment, the rest of your statement deserves a reply. People do play last gen sports titles still. The graphics may not be as good but sometimes the games are just as good if not better. NBA 2K16 on PS3 easily is better thab NBA 2K16 on PS4. But opinions vary, so to each their own.

        • DounteOnlineFranchises

          Ass hole confirmed!!!! Last gen is a hooker standing in the rain trying to turn a trick!!! You’re confused if you think the PS3 version is better than the PS4 version! That doesn’t make sense none whatsoever!! I really don’t care though😤

    • Yezzir

      Couldn’t find rosters? Were you offline? No association? Did you even look? Sounds to me like you don’t really play 2k like that. Nothing wrong with that.

  • Jonathan Alvarez

    I cant get all technical like you guys get but I would think a street game will appeal to basketball fans. I understand $60 is steep ( i wouldnt pay that for a street game) but maybe PSN game or something. Maybe I just cause I a big steetball fan since i was a teen. LOL #2KAllDay

  • rockchisler

    Its all because
    of the Hockey guy they brought in for Elite

    • hungryandrew

      Hockey guy can’t still be there for nba live.

  • WilsonRamos

    problem with Nba live is its like a ps2 game with current gen graphics

  • Mike D

    They should have released this game for $10 digitally. I’m sure they’d sell 6x more, and in return, revenue would be somewhat equivalent to what they received at $60. Not only that, more hands on your game equals more buzz, word of mouth, micro-transactions, etc. Look at what 2k did when they sold their ESPN games for $20 during a time NBA Live sold more. This move paved way for NBA 2k to eventually dominate. The same would have happened with NFL, but EA was smart enough to stop 2k from taking over football too (EA, Karma’s a b**** eh?)…. Anyways, it amazes me how developers/publishers are so out of touch with their starting price. NBA Live at $60, Rugby at $60, come on….. Some people just hate money.

  • Jerry Tyler

    Who cares if he hasn’t tweeted

  • Jerry Tyler

    Here’s my honest opinion 2k isn’t that good I’m not being bias either I play both games tbh the only reason 2k was selling numbers was because that’s the only game was was left with until live brought the game back in 14

    • hungryandrew

      Only game due to COMPETITION, not exclusivity.

  • Jerry Tyler

    So their was no competition live has been out 3 yrs now and has improve every year forcing 2k to put work into their game which is good because competition is everything

  • Jerry Tyler

    Some ppl are just fan boys or who use to play live since that was the game back in the day play 2k for the bells and whistles I can assure people that if you sat down with 2k players a lot of rage of broken animation will be said and things of that nature but these are the same players who love the game

  • Tazdevil20

    how is anyone surprised by this? Anything that Tiburon touches turns to shit. This is what is called “Natural Selection”. Only the strong survive, unless you can buy them out. Look at what happens when the Tibidiots are actually forced to compete on merits. NBA Live has all of the same player movement and animation issues that Madden has. Not to mention, the overall depth and feature set of NBA 2k alongside the gameplay is astounding. Just like in real life sports, the teams with the best talent win. You’ll never convince me that Tiburon has talent and the proof is shown here and with Madden. When it comes to the NFL, it is the most popular sport in North Armerica by such a wide margin, you can’t even measure it. The best NBA game should sell less than a 1/3 of what the NFL game should be selling. Yet NBA 2k is going to shatter that. Bottom line is, it would be nice to have multiple games in all of the genres, but the fact of the matter is, Any game being made by Tiburon is going to flounder and fail. They are a terrible studio. Madden has been around for 30 years, is the only NFL game, and is being outsold by an NBA game that has been around for HALF the time? GTFOH.

    • Brian

      Did you really just quote natural selection? This has absolutely nothing to do with natural selection. And even if you mean it by the strong surviving, you’re misunderstanding the principle. Natural selection is like if you had two mantis, one green and one bright pink. Their attributes are the same, no one stronger than the other. The bright pink mantis gets eaten more by predators because they’re easier to spot. So the green mantis survives. That’s natural selection. You’re talking about “Survival of the Fittest.” Which may still work in video games. The point is, just don’t quote anything. And get off your high horse.

      • DounteOnlineFranchises

        Worked for me lol😆😆😆 🐎🔫

  • Jerry Tyler

    I’m really convinced that nobody really plays live they just base it off looks and don’t really ply or if y’all do play its not really much lot more good then bad

  • Thatdude1994

    The only thing holding EA together are a couple of games and ultimate team its sad to be honest.

  • WilsonRamos

    NHl was a really good game on last gens consoles, but last years poor game nearly killed the series

  • Weekend Roady

    If I was EA, I’d go all out Euroleague and market the franchise to a European audience. Go above what 2K has done with Euro teams and have a full on competition as well as full leagues for individual countries, not just the Euroleague. Perhaps include the Eurobasket competition and national teams. Euroleague Live 17 anyone? It can be marketed for, say, $20-30 as a digital download for the U.S. market, with a wide Euro release.

    • hungryandrew

      That won’t work, smh, take a extended weekend off and come back later buddy.

      • MoneyMayweather

        Shut up

      • Weekend Roady

        Be a little more detailed. Why wouldn’t it? Europe has a pretty large and untapped hoops market and NBA 2K just includes teams, not a playable Euroleague

        • hungryandrew

          Europe is not into basketball that much where it will buy the game, and forget about United States, no one would pay for a Euro league basketball game, smh, come on man.

  • cubs223425

    Kill this franchise and bring back MVP Baseball. Xbox fans need you to, EA.

    • MoneyMayweather

      Cubs are gonna lose tonight buddy.

    • BravesFan24

      EA doesn’t seem interested in competing with The Show.

  • Brett

    yeah, that’s not what I want to see….sports games going free to play centered around ultimate team.

  • Reginald Mitchell

    You make a good point, Enjoyed the article. I played the Live Demo it felt too stiff to me, and the players look bow legged lol.. Like they just got off a horse or something. Live is done !!! 2K has the crown and it’s not letting go !

    • MoneyMayweather

      I like both games so this hurts me twice as hard.

  • raptors

    EVERYONE – Live franchise has so much money its unreal…spanning from live 95′. I’m sure they are nowhere near done. Speaking graphically LIVE beats 2k any day. Player models/courts/atmosphere/cameras true next gen graphics. Playing 2k seems last gen to me and off putting. Close up yes players look flawless. Gameplay wise live can be fun if you learn the controls. Not perfect but hey 2k isn’t perfect either. I own both games and can easily say. I play LIVE 16 ps4 more than 2k. I’m neutral when it comes to games. I play pes and fifa…where pes offers better controls/animations where fifa offers better match day atmosphere. Its a preference more than anything.

    • hungryandrew

      Are you Moneymayweather’s little brother?

  • Lafayette Azevedo

    EA should make it a FREE-TO-PLAY game with the Pro-Am because that is fun but in the end just kill the game. They should make a deal with MLB to bring back MVP BASEBALL and really get a hold of that market on both consoles.

  • Chris

    The “NBA Live” series is far from over my friends. Most of you guys here don’t even remotely have a clue about what you are talking about. Let’s start with the “alleged” 8000 copies that sold in September first. Live 16 was released on September 29, 2015. How many days are there in the month of September boys and girls? For this crowd I’ll answer my own question; there are 30 days in September meaning Live 16 was out for a whole whopping 2 days.

    I can tell by the comments I’ve read on this site most on here have not played Live 16 this year. Stop being sheeple and going with the popular response or bashing something that you have not tried. I buy both basketball games every single year; neither game is perfect but both games are fun. I’m not here to downplay 2K, only here to stat facts.

    Live doesn’t need a ton of sales when they are making money hand over fist with LUT aka “Live Ultimate Team”. A lot of people played LUT last year and many spent well into the thousands on pulling packs. I’m not saying what I think, I’m telling you that I’m willing to put my house up for this because I know what I’m saying is 100% true. There are a lot more people that play Live than you think and the people who do play it spend big time on the game more than what’s being said here. So you don’t need 1 million sells for the game when guys are spending $5000 in pulling packs for ultimate team.

    You guys need to pull your head out of your butts. Is 2K paying you for hyping their game up? There is so much input lag, bad animations that you can’t get out of, and servers issues on 2K than a little bit. But people are on here talking up for 2K like its flawless and perfect. And before you come attacking me I’ve played every Live and 2K ever made, so I’ve been there from the beginning for both franchises. Most people that play the Live franchise today are over 25 years of age and don’t want to deal with the low basketball ball IQ, selfish, foul mouth, glitch finding, latch key kids that 2K brings. Most of the people who play Live are adults. We don’t have to ask mommy or daddy for money to pull bundles. Ultimate Team is what’s keeping Live afloat. Since most of the comments here were money driven I felt obligated to set the record straight on how EA makes money on this game. If you prefer 2K over Live then that’s cool. But why would you want to see Live falter? Seems to me that the better Live does the better 2K will have to be in the long run. Just simple thoughts about a simple topic.

    • Excellent and well said excellent

  • The game is fine and remember its not the Dev Team fault they have the vision its the suits that are holding them back.

    • hungryandrew

      We do not know what the story is, so don’t automatically ASSume it’s thesuits fault.

      • When your a true Vet like myself you know what the problem is. Team has to listen to there bosses the Team has families to provide for and they have the idea and vision just restricted.

        • hungryandrew

          Riiiiight, the developers are so talented they can figure it all out when the suits disappear, right, sure. Developers at EA sucks. Period.

  • Jesse

    Now, I agree that this series is dead. No question. But, I would have to also mention that this is a common scenario in ALL sports games, just not this bad. Listen, I used to be an avid gamer. An avid sports gamer, by all means. I’m 40 now, my marginal utility for video sports games, has declined exponentially. Not because I think that they aren’t good, it’s a fact that I just don’t play as much as used to at 35, or 30, or 20. So, I know I’m not the only person feeling this limitation of video gaming. It’s a choice. I have better things to do and more curious things to monopolize my time. It’s just not that interesting to me anymore. I would assume that is where the decline in sales in MOST sports games are coming from. People like me, who are now in their 40’s, that bought these games, every year for 20+ years…it’s just time to move on, I guess.

    • I’m in the same boat. I have limited time to play games nowadays and when I do, I pick up a game I know is going to be good and one with familiar controls.

  • Jcdizzle559

    They need to add club maches. Club vs club with divisions.

  • Is whats funny …. madden would do the same thing if 2k was able to be licensed for NFL. fizzle and die