Kirk Herbstreit doesn’t properly grasp why the NCAA Football series is gone

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Posted January 19th, 2016 at 12:15 pm

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ESPN analyst Kirk Herbstreit, who appeared as a commentator in the NCAA Football series from 2001-2013, is upset that the NCAA Football series no longer exists. In an interview that has just gone out he places all the blame on Ed O’Bannon, and expresses the belief that the series should return under the same conditions from the past. Check out a summary of his comments and why he is off-base with them over at Sporting News.

O’Bannon is the face of the class action suit that led to the cancellation of NCAA Football, but he absolutely should not be singled out as the reason for it. This was going to happen sooner or later and O’Bannon initially wasn’t even the one challenging current player likenesses, but rather the inclusion of historic player likenesses without any approval or compensation.

Herbstreit’s main argument is one you’ve heard before, that the players all want to be in the game and don’t care about being paid for it. That’s easy to say for those who wouldn’t really be able to capitalize on their likeness even if allowed to do so, but clearly wouldn’t apply to the Tim Tebow and Johnny Manziel type of players from years past. It’s the college athletes who move merchandise and are promoted on television broadcasts that are the ones primarily getting screwed over by the NCAA, at least as far as making money off their names, but obviously there are many others who contribute to a product that generates billions of dollars every year who are being exploited in the process.

Ultimately his opinion on the matter means nothing at this point. Just because a lot of people want something doesn’t mean it will happen or even can. A new college football video game won’t happen until the legal matters are finally exhausted and a system is devised to pay for player likenesses. Read up on the situation, how we got here and what it would take for college games to return, and also check out the latest Press Row Podcast on the subject.

  • MoneyMayweather

    I don’t think Herbie was off base here. He’s just talking like a fan glad someone nailed O bannon for his crap.

  • alex

    Its bad enough when some people think college athletes shouldnt get paid or at least make money off their names. Far worse when a guy who was profiting off them say they shouldn’t get anything.

    • MoneyMayweather

      EA wasn’t using their name or anything just their likeness and stats that’s about all EA did you can look at it anyway you want EA or Herbie did nothing wrong. It’s just that O bannon was that anal about getting paid. if someone makes a video game off my likeness like height weight and stats Do I have the right to sue? maybe but I’m not a dick like O bannon ruining peoples favorite past time whether he was right or wrong it just irks me the wrong way especially since his name wasn’t on the game Unless EA used their names I would see they were wrong but they didn’t O bannon was just looking for a pay day there have been thousands and thousands of athletes since 1995 who likeness EA used it wasn’t a problem until EA started making major cash I assume the sixth gen with all the popularity of sports gaming companies got greedy now we see money grabs all over our sports games It was a much funner and simpler time before exclusive contracts and contractions of Sports franchises but the one thing everything had in common was companies saw the money flowing so they wanted more which in turn o bannon and all these development compnaies wanted more thus ruining any fun we could have from now on.

      • The anger towards O’Bannon is misplaced. He sued about historic players being the game without being compensated. It’s the likes of Sam Keller and Ryan Hart who first sued about current players. O’Bannon just stayed on as the face of a class action against the NCAA, EA, and CLC in covering everything as the complaints merged.

        Regardless if it wasn’t him or one of them it would have been someone else. The NCAA is really the one to blame here for not allowing a way to the players to be paid a small amount for their rights.

        • joe smoe

          Bullshit…Ed O’Bannon is a worthless piece of shit who ruined this game and all NCAA videos games. What the fuck was this whiny ass suing for anyways…answer, a pay day because he suck dick at basketball and wants to have his name out there….FUCK ED O’BANNON!!!!!!!!!

      • connor

        So because kids like playing a video game, its ok to exploit people and make millions off them without paying them anything? Just because there name isnt on their jerseys in the game doesnt make it not them dont give me that bs. O Bannon’s “crap” was trying to give basic rights to thousands of college kids. I miss the NCAA games as much as anyone but I dont pretend like nothing was wrong with what they did.

    • Just a guy

      They are making money. Free schooling and, in most top D-1 cases, their own dorms, free food and all the girls you could ask for. I would have given my left nut for that collegiate experience and no debt. So anyone who says that isn’t enough payment isn’t $50k in debt from college.

      • Kevin C

        Yes. They are given free money to play college football. They are not given a scholarship to be in a video game. It doesn’t matter if YOU think it’s enough money to cover both. That’s not the legal, binding agreement. And that’s not me talking; that’s a court of law talking. What if your boss says, “I pay you enough money for your 9 to 5 job that you can spare your weekends to come over to my house and do my laundry”? The courts easily saw the gapping holes in that logic.

      • Smsixx

        You are very misinformed on how this works…

        My step son spent 2 years on a football scholarship to a D-1 school. And though I understand that all scholarships work differently…this is what those magical Benefits included…

        1. Schooling is not free…scholarship amounts can cover classes and books, but if you need supplies such as a computer, a Tudor, notebooks, writing utensils, calculators etc…you pay out of pocket.

        2. The women do not just come up to the football players with their panties down…everyone is not the Captain America star QB. Most are attending for education reasons and many more are far too busy to even partake in parties.

        3. The free food was given away in vouchers. He would receive 10 per week…That’s 10 meals per week…As a football player you have coaches telling you to bulk up but here they are giving you only 10 meals a week for the dried up buffet food in the mess hall…Money had to be sent to him so he could eat properly.

        4. If you think the college experience leaves you debt free (scholarship or not) you are dead wrong…Judging from your post it looks like you watched Animal House and Van Wilder one too many times.

        • SEC ATHLETE

          I played college football at a SEC school from 2006-2010. I barely played but contributed on special teams. I graduated with a degree in Psychology and I know work at a great hospital in Florida, making over six figures and I was able to obtain this by getting a free education plus I graduated from one of the hospital’s board of directors alma mater . The teachers were so lenient with us student-athletes that classes were a joke. I was told by one teacher that I didn’t need to show up to class if I didn’t want to but I knew that the NFL could be a possibility for me but just in case it doesn’t happen, I’m going to use this free education I’m getting to better myself for life. Other students, who paid out of pocket for their education didn’t have the resources that we as student-athletes had with; free but mandatory study hall with tutors and TAs, free books(which some books cost as much as $300), we were given grace periods to turn in papers(some of which were written by the same tutors and TAs in study hall) when regular students weren’t and to top it all off, if we had tests on travel days or days when we were in another city, a so called school administrator would “watch” over us as we took our test with open books and notes. The guys who are in this lawsuit are the guys who just went to college to play their respective sport, party, get laid and try to make it pro and I can guarantee that most of their majors were in general studies or some bullshit major where you don’t have to think as hard or do actual work which is why they are struggling because they don’t know what to do in life if it doesn’t pertain to their respective sport. You get a free education, you do get free food from the UC, cafeteria or any other restaurants on campus(they put the money on your student ID card), at the athletic facility there were free smoothies, free protein powders(which I’m finding out now cost $60-$80 but were free to us athletes while we were in school). Just how the guys in the lawsuit are trying to use the system to get paid, they should’ve been using the school system to get ahead while they were getting a free education from their respective schools.

          • Casor_Greener

            Please stop lying. Working at a hospital making 6 figures with a Psych degre?!??! That had nothing to do with football, if it’s true WHICH I HIGHLY DOUBT, your well to do uncle or auntie got it for you.
            You are just spouting off nonsense you heard from someone else who really did it

  • Kevin C

    The infamous Clowney-dislocated-ankle pic. It’s funny that Herbie, who stands to lose money by not being in the game, would criticize others who weren’t getting paid for being in the game. How about they just use him without compensation? Would he still be okay with that?

    • MoneyMayweather

      yep

  • Delano Walker

    I just miss my College football. It could be so beautiful right now smh.

    • The Great Leon

      Agree, wish they could have put a playoff system in before they stopped making them.

  • Jay (The Truth)

    Herbstreet loves the sport too much to be able to offer any objective perspective. The way the NCAA rules are crafted is insanity. No other country on earth limits kids opportunities to enter the free market (that we Americans supposedly love and worship so much) like we do. You pretty much have to go to college to be able to enter NBA/NFL, even though we have, 10 year olds out here skating the mega ramp at XGames, playing in the Masters, 13 year old playing starting goalie for a European professional soccer team, etc. The school and NCAA can sell your name/likeness but you can’t, like any other non athletic scholarship student can. It’s slowly beginning to change, Thank God.

    • The Great Leon

      The two examples you used are no as physical.
      No 17,18, or 19 can handle the life that the NFL provides The NFL career averages 3 years that is one contract. NFL really has no off season either it is a true grind. Kids don’t have the ability to study tape, work out and go up against 30 year olds.

      As for NBA the game is suffering. Hard to find good shooters, talking true shooters. NBA life is also hard on people. Look at the 76ers they are a joke.

      • Jay (The Truth)

        Skateboarding is more dangerous than football. You’re missing the point. Whether or not they’re ready is up to individual interpretation on case by case basis. Should be up to them to decide when they’re ready, rather than having a one size fits all system that forces them to waste valuable earning years withering away their bodies in college.

        As far as the physicality, I agree. But your point is a little misinformed based on the modern NFL. Most teams are going young these days. Fewer and fewer 30 and up year olds (minus QB, and a few Online positions) in the NFL, because it’s cheaper to pay the minimum to low round draft picks. Particularly, at the positions where your premise would matter. Linebacker, Rush end, D tackle, etc.

        Also, I’m not completely gung-ho let high schoolers go to the NFL. But I think the NCAA has to meet kids in the middle. If you’re going to prevent them from going pro (NFL rule, I know), let them (those who can) earn market value for their likeness, signatures, endorsements, etc. Like any other scholarship student can do, other than the athlete.