Thoughts on the NCAA Football 09 features

by pastapadre
Posted April 3rd, 2008 at 8:36 pm

The release of the first big NCAA Football 09 feature list has brought about a great deal of optimism. It seems as though many things from previous versions along with other wishlist type features have made their way in. So I thought I’d go over my reaction to a handful of the features and what they could mean for the this year.


Wide open gameplay: This is something that I’m really looking forward to. Since the 05 titles it has bothered me how the the football video games feel somewhat scripted and that they’ve lacked the “anything can happen” excitement of the sport. From watching football games you see those things (especially so in college) but never experience them in video games. Other than deep bombs there has been little to no opportunity for explosive plays. I think back to watching highlights of Reggie Bush and how I knew that much of what he did wasn’t possible to pull off in the games. I want to see those things and know that a big play can happen at any time.

Home Field Advantage: This return of HFA alone makes me more excited about NCAA than Madden. Atmosphere accented by HFA are sorely lacking in Madden but it appears that NCAA will improve greatly in those areas. While some people felt the previous attempt at HFA in NCAA was overdone I found it added to realism and ultimately made things more fun while presenting a unique challenge with each game on the schedule.

Roster sharing: Finally a hit to those people who have profited (in some cases tens of thousands of dollars) off rosters. Now the rosters will be passed around freely and to a much wider audience. I didn’t even bother going through the process of getting the rosters named last year and ultimately my interest in the game waned because of it. The question now is whether it will be like the EA Locker in March Madness or 2K Share in College Hoops. With the locker you have to be on a person’s friends list but with share it is held on a server where anyone can grab it. Either way it’ll really be a big thing for the game.

Online dynasty: Something people have been asking for now for a long time makes it in. This is certainly a big project so hopefully EA has things worked out for it. First of all the online play performance will need to be improved, otherwise it could end up as a big waste of time. I’d look for a max of 16 user controlled teams (which would be more than sufficient) and the ability to do basically anything that comes with an offline dynasty in the online ones.

Mascot games: I’ve always been bothered by elitist attitudes that belittle the merits of mascot mode and the people who enjoy them. I’m one of the people who like it and I’m not ashamed to admit it. With quick games against a friend sometimes it’s just more entertaining that way. There are very few resources spent in putting the mascot games together and it doesn’t take away from other aspects of the game. Regardless of what some will claim it is actually enjoyed by many people. Ultimately I’d even like to have mascot games available for online play.

College atmosphere: Really this ties into home field in my mind but they mention things like the dynamic crowds and sidelines. For the sidelines I’ll just be happy if they don’t detract from the experience. I don’t expect anything extraordinary but as long as they aren’t comically bad as they have been it’ll be an improvement.

Return missed field goals: Sounds like it could be fun to see once in a while but here is my concern. The kicking game has always been over-powered. The only time you really see any come up short is 50+ yards. Field goals are just too easy and unless they are made more difficult then I doubt there will be many opportunities for returning missed ones (although the CPU may miss more than other user controlled teams). The positive aspect is that it will make people think before attempting field goals that may be out of range.

I’m very excited about this year’s release after finding out about these new features especially when combined with the screenshot and video uploading via EA Sports World and the Campus Legend mode. Possibly more excited than for any game I can remember in the past three years or so. NCAA 08 was the best football game available for playing offline but they have an opportunity now to make it the premiere all-around football game besting Madden.

Of course there are still many “ifs” to consider. Will online performance and options be better than last year’s inexcusable experience? Will the CPU AI avoid throwing 6 INTs every game? Can you navigate menus and the depth charts without severe button lag? Will there be some improvements to the already strong Campus Legend mode?

Usually I anticipate NCAA Football in large part because it’s the first football game to come out after months of playing none. Then Madden comes and I just don’t find much motivation to continue playing it. But with the addition of online dynasties and roster sharing along with the return of a home field advantage the anticipation is going to be off the charts as the release nears. It’ll be interesting to see if that is enough to challenge for time when Madden and even Head Coach roll out.

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  • [quote comment="17885"]me either[/quote]
    What Do you mean me either
  • Buckeye_football_28
    me either
  • I Cant wait to return missed feild goals
  • Buckeye_football_28
    Dude i don't think i have ever been this excited for NCAA to come out the running engine and tackling engine and open field thing look amazing check out this video of some cool tidbits http://youtube.com/watch?v=c8O-5rGPkAs check it out and pasta what do you know about campus legend because i mostly play that so i'm curious
  • bob from florida
    ***agree***
    Pasta do u think this would be a good idea?
  • bob from florida
    It would be cool if there was create a stadium. You could pick any colors, what type of stadium and ect. It would be a nice addition to go along with create a team. Does anyone else agrre with me?
  • Brandon
    [quote comment="17228"]Arizona has 6 different uniform combos.

    Navy jersey/white pants
    Navy jersey/navy pants
    Red jersey/white pants
    Red jersey/navy pants
    White jersey/navy pants
    White jersey/white pants

    I'm just saying this cuz I'm an Arizona fan, & I would love if they had all the alternates for each team in the game. What they should do is make the option to select what color jerseys & what color pants you want, and for those teams that have more than 1 color helmet to select that too. Imagine the possibilities for Oregon...[/quote]
    I could almost imagine the possibilities for Oregon too
  • Kenny
    Arizona has 6 different uniform combos.

    Navy jersey/white pants
    Navy jersey/navy pants
    Red jersey/white pants
    Red jersey/navy pants
    White jersey/navy pants
    White jersey/white pants

    I'm just saying this cuz I'm an Arizona fan, & I would love if they had all the alternates for each team in the game. What they should do is make the option to select what color jerseys & what color pants you want, and for those teams that have more than 1 color helmet to select that too. Imagine the possibilities for Oregon...
  • Vikingsfanatic
    Teams with alternate jerseys. Can People fill in how many each team has to see if there are actually 50 or over 50 that should be in the game?

    Air Force No

    Akron

    Alabama No

    Arizona Yes 1

    Arizona State No

    Arkansas No

    Arkansas State

    Army No

    Auburn No

    Ball State

    Baylor

    Boise State No

    Boston College No

    Bowling Green

    Buffalo

    BYU No

    California Yes 2

    Central Michigan

    Cincinnati

    Clemson Yes ?

    Colorado Yes?

    Colorado State

    Connecticut

    Duke

    Eastern Michigan

    ECU

    FIU No

    Florida Yes

    Florida Atlantic No

    Florida State Yes

    Fresno State Yes

    Georgia Yes

    Georgia Tech Yes

    Hawaiʻi Yes

    Houston Yes?

    Idaho No

    Illinois Yes

    Indiana Yes

    Iowa No

    Iowa State Yes 2

    Kansas Yes 1

    Kansas State No

    Kent State Yes?

    Kentucky Yes

    Louisiana Tech

    Louisiana-Lafayette

    Louisiana-Monroe

    Louisville Yes

    LSU No

    Marshall Yes

    Maryland Yes

    Memphis Yes

    Miami Yes

    Miami University

    Michigan No

    Michigan State No

    Middle Tennessee

    Minnesota Yes

    Mississippi State Yes

    Missouri Yes

    Navy Yes

    NC State Yes

    Nebraska NO

    Nevada

    New Mexico

    New Mexico State

    North Carolina Yes

    North Texas Yes

    Northern Illinois No

    Northwestern Yes

    Notre Dame Yes

    Ohio Yes

    Ohio State No

    Oklahoma No

    Oklahoma State Yes

    Ole Miss Yes

    Oregon Yes

    Oregon State Yes

    Penn State No

    Pittsburgh Yes

    Purdue No

    Rice

    Rutgers Yes

    San Diego State

    San Jose State

    SMU Yes

    South Carolina Yes

    South Florida No

    Southern Miss

    Stanford No

    Syracuse Yes

    TCU Yes

    Temple No

    Tennessee Yes

    Texas No

    Texas A&M Yes

    Texas Tech Yes

    Toledo

    Troy

    Tulane

    Tulsa

    UAB

    UCF Yes

    UCLA No

    UNLV Yes

    USC No

    Utah

    Utah State

    UTEP Yes

    Vanderbilt Yes

    Virginia Yes

    Virginia Tech Yes

    Wake Forest Yes

    Washington No

    Washington State Yes

    West Virginia Yes

    Western Michigan

    Wisconsin Yes

    Wyoming
  • Brandon
    :)
  • Brandon
    [quote comment="16909"][quote comment="16841"]Pasta do u know anything about the teams that get alternate jerseys? if they dont include all of oregons jerseys i am gonna scrreamm!!![/quote]

    They said there would be 50 or so alternates, if they included all of Oregon's various options there wouldn't be room for anyone else. ;)[/quote]

    Oregon only has like maybe 3 alternate jerseys.
  • Uncle Hershell
    thnx but i dont have online but will i still be able to get the real names and not the generated names/numbers?
  • pastapadre
    [quote comment="16902"]Pasta, you may not know the answer to this but it's worth asking. I've read all the responses and I think we're all wondering why it is that in the "next-gen" transition why all features don't just get transferred over. What can you say to this point?[/quote]

    When you build a game from the ground up as EA did you have to re-do all those features. It isn't as simple as just transfering them over.

    [quote comment="16903"]i dont understand what roster sharing is... is it where players will actually have thier real names???[/quote]

    Yeah you'll be able to pull off a set of named rosters. In the past you'd even see the names when you played online.
  • coogrfan
    [quote comment="16841"]Pasta do u know anything about the teams that get alternate jerseys? if they dont include all of oregons jerseys i am gonna scrreamm!!![/quote]

    They said there would be 50 or so alternates, if they included all of Oregon's various options there wouldn't be room for anyone else. ;)
  • Uncle Hershell
    i dont understand what roster sharing is... is it where players will actually have thier real names???
  • Shomari
    Pasta, you may not know the answer to this but it's worth asking. I've read all the responses and I think we're all wondering why it is that in the "next-gen" transition why all features don't just get transferred over. What can you say to this point?
  • Dylan
    thanks for answering my question pasta but i sure hope you will be wrong ha
  • AJ
    For everyone thinking that online leagues will just be like NHL's I wrote in Peter Moore's blog and he answered me with this.

    Here’s what Dale Jackson, our Executive Producer for Madden NFL told me:

    “Year after year, the discussion of league play and stat tracking has been a recurring theme in feedback on Madden. Madden NFL 09 will address this feedback directly. Without giving too much away, let’s just say that those who enjoy online stats won’t be disappointed. Based on the amount we see this requested in forums, we’re very excited about our features we have planned here.”

    Think this may be the year my friends.
  • Eski
    I like the features but I am like most people -- These are features that should have been included two years ago. There is nothing really new.

    I don't understand why they can't take all of the good additions from years past, such as team-specific entrances, classic teams, classic uniforms, etc. and add things such as accurate bowl game stadiums and end zones, improved gameplay and presentation.

    I am excited to see all of these elements but don't get sucked in to thinking this is all new.....
  • Rudy
    Nice comments Pastapadre. You always seem to get good scoops and info. I prefer NCAA over Madden and I love the wide open feel this game is supposed to have. Last year's game lacked that special feeling that some of the older PS2 games had. Hopefully the playbooks will be better and the cpu will bomb away without throwing tons of picks.
  • Brandon
    Pasta do u know anything about the teams that get alternate jerseys? if they dont include all of oregons jerseys i am gonna scrreamm!!!
  • MontanaGRIZ
    [quote comment="16820"]looks like someone is a fan of your site seems like this guy mostly just copied over what you wrote. also how is this a first look when they havent even seen the game lol

    http://www.operationsports.com/preview.php?id=2...
    Don't hate on OS, they support Pasta Padre's site by posting links to his stories. Also they write strong original stuff all the time.
  • Dre
    Do you know if the celebrations are making a return like the ones from NCAA 07 for the PS2
  • lakeallen
    looks like someone is a fan of your site seems like this guy mostly just copied over what you wrote. also how is this a first look when they havent even seen the game lol

    http://www.operationsports.com/preview.php?id=29
  • Dre
    I also want to know if there are alternate uniforms in the game because I want to play as Ga. in their BlackOut Jerseys. I noticed in Madden ( Don't remember NCAA doing it) that when you changed the uniform for one team(PS3) you couldn't do it for the other team. One or the other always changed back to the default uniform. I know things like this may seem trivial, but to me I need all the little things in the game that makes the game a real experience that almost seems like you are really in the game.
  • Details
    [quote comment="16813"]BTW just as an interesting note your comment was the 10,000th made on the site. Congrats![/quote]

    I thought you were going to say it was the 10,000th time someone asked about referees. I would believe that. Ha. Congrats, Josh!
  • Xtremedunkz
    what does he win? lol jk
  • pastapadre
    [quote comment="16808"]Pasta, have you heard anything about referees and chain gangs being on the field this year? I know it may not be a big deal to some, but it absolutely amazes me how something as basic & important to a football game continues to be left out but yet they can find time to add all these other gimicky features. I know there has been an adjustment period for developers on next gen games & I also understand that when you only have less than a year to develop a game there's only so much you can add to it but this is the 4th year & it's way overdue. Afterall we had refs & chain gangs on Madden '92.[/quote]

    BTW just as an interesting note your comment was the 10,000th made on the site. Congrats!
  • pastapadre
    [quote comment="16808"]Pasta, have you heard anything about referees and chain gangs being on the field this year? I know it may not be a big deal to some, but it absolutely amazes me how something as basic & important to a football game continues to be left out but yet they can find time to add all these other gimicky features. I know there has been an adjustment period for developers on next gen games & I also understand that when you only have less than a year to develop a game there's only so much you can add to it but this is the 4th year & it's way overdue. Afterall we had refs & chain gangs on Madden '92.[/quote]

    Sorry I don't know anything specific on those things.

    [quote comment="16811"]hey pasta i have a question have you heard if they are going to bring back create a team mode cuz me and alot of other people loved that mode so we could create our highschool teams and such. thanks[/quote]

    I don't think they're done announcing features for the game but I suspect if create-a-team was in this year it would've made that list.
  • Dylan
    hey pasta i have a question have you heard if they are going to bring back create a team mode cuz me and alot of other people loved that mode so we could create our highschool teams and such. thanks
  • Kenny
    Any word on what schools will be getting alternates?
  • Josh
    Pasta, have you heard anything about referees and chain gangs being on the field this year? I know it may not be a big deal to some, but it absolutely amazes me how something as basic & important to a football game continues to be left out but yet they can find time to add all these other gimicky features. I know there has been an adjustment period for developers on next gen games & I also understand that when you only have less than a year to develop a game there's only so much you can add to it but this is the 4th year & it's way overdue. Afterall we had refs & chain gangs on Madden '92.
  • poundtherock
    [quote comment="16789"]Ah, PTR I just replied to your comment in the other topic.[/quote]


    Got it!

    Thanks.
  • Bumble14
    [quote comment="16800"][quote comment="16799"]Pasta you are absolutely fooling yourself if you think for 1 second that the online dynasty will anything close to what offline dynasty is. I GUARANTEE online dynasty= online league where you select your team and all you will have are standings. No recruiting, no stat tracking,etc. It will be EXACTLY like the leagues in NHL this year.[/quote]

    At least your expectations will be exceeded then, I fully believe the feature is going to be much more than that. We'll see...[/quote]

    I seriously hope you are right. The problem is EA's track record on the 360/PS3 for sports games has been beyond poor. We have yet to get a football game on either system that has eclipsed the feature set/innovations of the last generation. As much as people don't want to admit it, the only improvement we have seen in these titles the last 3 years has been graphics.
  • Mark
    Is the PS3 version going to be worth getting? I own a PS3 as of now, but have tried to play nhl 08, but the framerate was so bad I couldn't play it for more than a minute..... I know they say it will be 60fps, but does this mean it will take a hit graphically on the PS3?
  • pastapadre
    [quote comment="16799"]Pasta you are absolutely fooling yourself if you think for 1 second that the online dynasty will anything close to what offline dynasty is. I GUARANTEE online dynasty= online league where you select your team and all you will have are standings. No recruiting, no stat tracking,etc. It will be EXACTLY like the leagues in NHL this year.[/quote]

    At least your expectations will be exceeded then, I fully believe the feature is going to be much more than that. We'll see...
  • Bumble14
    Pasta you are absolutely fooling yourself if you think for 1 second that the online dynasty will anything close to what offline dynasty is. I GUARANTEE online dynasty= online league where you select your team and all you will have are standings. No recruiting, no stat tracking,etc. It will be EXACTLY like the leagues in NHL this year.
  • Dre
    I think NCAA 07 was the best in the series IMO. I like the player highlight feature when your player in in the zone an the game slows down for you to make a great play.
  • Michael
    The game sounds amazing and i hope it will be as advertised but you never know untill the game comes out!I still want them to put the correct entrances in like clemson running down the hill and notre dame smacking there sign etc.
  • Why can't they fix the playclock? It's too long for 5 minute quarters!!!
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