NBA Live 09 Patch Details

Actually r00t, only two people I’ve “beef” with on here, and that’s sdot and recently Reignman. I’m never angry, I’m all for discussion. It’s when people base everything off their biased, and try to present it as facts is when I typically have to resort to facts and hold them accountable to what they say.

I’ll be the first to admit, that NBA 2K9 is the better overall gaming experience. There are things about both games that make me enjoy it, and things about both games that frustrate me, but when I am analyze a game, I put any biased I have to the side and see what’s right in front of me.

I’ve been called a 2K fanboy, a Live fanboy, I’m just a gamer who wants to see the best possible product from both ends. We can agree to disagree, you can have your preference and that is fine. If you come with facts to support your idea or opinion, vice trying to force your opinion on someone else then we are going to be fine.

@Dr. Logic,

I can agree with what you have to say, but I think there has to be a balance. You have to bring in someone who has an understanding of the direction that Live wants to go in, and can present realistic constructive feedback and not let it become a bitch session. Who would be identified as a person to go to the games? This last year NBA Live is really talking to the community, not only with community day events, but the producers are actually on the NBA Live forums interacting with the community, getting ideas, elaborating, consolidating wish list. I think NBA Live is a work in progress, but since its’ 2008 release it’s been moving in the right direction, and now with the engine being ran on two separate tittles, gives a lot more room for support.

The reason why I started coming to the site was of how throurough Pasta was with his analysis of his visits to community day events and impressions. He’s notted the positives and negatives and leaves it up to the readers to determine what will appeal to them. In no way am I saying other sites don’t provide this, but Pasta also interacts with us on here and forwards our requests, questions and concerns to these developers.

I’m sure if 2K offered Pasta a pass to come review the game, provide insight and what not, Pasta would more than gladly accept (who’d pass it up?)

#1, I proposed the idea for discussion that NBA Live could sell for $29.99 or a reduced price from $60 (the average range for a sports game) as 2K did in 2005 for their entire lineup to increase sales and to bring people add on to their base. I don't know how you can apply "facts" to a hypothetical situation ReignMan, please explain how you have, I'd really like to see you ellaborate on that issue. I actually discussed the possibility with Pasta and the benefits it could bring, even though we both know the possibility was unlikely, but it was a hypothetical situation and if the EA Season Pass comes to fruition, then yes NBA Live 2010 could go for $29.99 – $39.00 when you include all the other trade in promotions that EBGAMES/GAMESTOP offers combined with the EA Season Pass.

So lets recap. I made a proposal to Pasta to get his outlook. He replied that the price is more than likely set by the NBA for all NBA games. The discussion basically ended there. Then when the EA season pass came out, the likely hood of NBA Live going for $29.99 – $39.99 becomes very likely if EA Season Pass becomes a reality.

NBA 2K5 was a highly rated game, but at the time only appealed to it's hardcore based since it didn't have the marketing or name recognition of EA Sports. 2005 was a HUGE year for 2K Sports. They did have highly reviewed games, but they had highly reviewed games years before and that didn't make them a market leader. What made them a market leader was the fact their ENTIRE sports lineup went for $19.99. The average consumer won here. They could buy a game that was rated on par with NBA Live for $30 less (Same for ESPN 2K Football). So the consumers instantly felt this was a win/win scenario. They could purchase NBA 2K5 and ESPN 2K5 Football for the same price of only 1 EA Game. This brought a new following, and this sat well with it's current base.

EA has to take this route with their NBA Live lineup, otherwise any improvements they make will only cater to their base. NBA Live will not introduce a new followership unless there is incentive to take a chance with NBA Live.

EA's path to NBA Live lead in the NBA videogame market will require they continue to improving their game play, and to give users an incentive to purchase the game.

Let's say next year NBA Live gets on par with 2K10. If they have equal ratings. What will this do? Majority of people will stick to 2K because of loyalty, and because the game would still be a good game, and it's something they know, they won't have to step out of their comfort zone.

There has to be an incentive to bring people in, and you have to know your consumer base. What is the biggest issue for most consumers in the country? The economy. This is a great opprotunity for EA to regain their market lead.

As for you peddling ReignMan, what a short memory you have. I brought up the scenario where that 2 EA basketball franchieses were using the same engine; therefore, they both would benefit as they would implement new features, animations, basically doubling their efforts. You said that it wouldn't happen…yadda…yadda…yadda. And now that EA has came out and basically agreed with my aforementioned arguement you try and switch what you said around, rather than just saying "JR, you were right, I was wrong". You didn't have to say anything, your silence alone would have been enough, yet you continue to dig a hole with your argument.

Please tell me what facts you are providing ReignMan. I give detailed and thoughtful explanation for my thoughts, and you give your biased opinion with no facts other than "How the he could NA Live 2010 go for $20". I never said $20, I said $29.99 (so that shows you don't really read what I have to write) and I've explained to you 3 times how NBA Live could go for that price combined with the EA Season Pass if that does turn out to be real. In fact, PASTA even agreed that this could be very possible if the EA Season Pass ends up being real, pending any restrictions.

Thank you and good day ReignMan. I know you wont concede, I don't expect you to. I expect you to continue to try and put your "facts".

As for NBA Live 06, you can get it for $19.99 my friend,

http://gamequestdirect.com/014633151374.html?utm_…

If you purchase it for $29.99 you're a moron. Who's buying NBA Live 06 anyway?

In fact, I'm not going to even rebut on this thread, because honestly, you're just trolling and you have to have the last word, because I've basically backed up my argument and you're still back peddling and trying to take what I say out of context and I'm still making my case. So by all means, have your last word, I won't be in this thread to stop you.

Sorry for the multiple posts, Pasta this was supposed to be one sub thread, but I had a connection timeout with your new system, and I had to break them down into multiple posts. Never had this issue with the other system, but then again I think I'm the only one who writes as much as I do.

Wow, impressive.

What You can not see, is that we are on the same site! We have the same goal, and question, how NBA LIVE can sit back to its throne? You think, a pricedrop shall help, I said, I can not imagine, that EA would push down the price (pass, reduction, etc) to 30 dollars, due to prestige. Even Monopoly, which is not a mainstream EA game costs 60$. Probably 50$ and HUGE improvements could help them to climb back. Another reason is the royalty to Microsoft after every game, as MS is selling the XBOX system under its true value, as everyone knows, and the mentioned 2k5 lineup were not x360 games. Plus its risky to compare price-strategies of Take2 and EA.

Thanks for the price-update, but where I live, in the EU, xbox360 starts from 30$.

So sit back, relax, we are in the same boat, but I whip EA and criticy its games, You are trying to suggest them price-strategies. I do not know, which is less effective.

PEACE

JR: What is the biggest issue for most consumers in the country? The economy.

The dime has got 2 sides. What is the biggest issue for most companies in the world? The economy.

As Ford can not sale their cars by 50% cheaper, as Samsung can not have a 50% pricedrop on LCD TVs, software is the same product, half-price in the market is almost a suicide movement.

@JR
"and try to present it as facts is when I typically have to resort to facts and hold them accountable to what they say."

Excuse me, but You had the dream of EA games for 20 dollars, I just replied the FACTS, why it is impossible. I believe, that You just want the benefit of the community, certainly I want 20 dollars xbox360 softwares, but that is never gonna happen as NBA live 06 costs still more than 30 dollars, how the hell could be nba live 2010 20 dollars?

If You truly like discussion and facts, why do You biase me 'peddling', and why You can not rebut my facts?

can we put headbands on any players? on the xbox 360 version (when we download the patch)

also can we CHHOSE the headband colour for this.

thanks

Personally, after a rough start, I'm pleasantly surprised at the reception that NCAA Basketball is getting. I'm excited to see how NBA Live '09 plays post-patch. I think that there are going to be people out there who are going to like NBA Live '09 more than they did before the patch came out.

isnt that the whole point of a patch

on the headband issue

1. can we change the colour of the headbands
2. can we change sock colour aswell?

please get back to me

cheers

Soooo when do I have to stop seeing Allan Houston(when I say Allan Houston I mean a bar going through the screen and what is left looks like it is from the movie “the thing”)???????