NBA Live 09 Patch Details

by pastapadre
Posted November 20th, 2008 at 9:14 pm

While the patch status for NBA Live 09 remains in question, we do finally have the details of what is being included. As expected many of the well discussed gripes such as shot percentages, delay in attempting shot blocks, and improvements to Online Team Play are included.

It sounds as though there are numerous fixes/improvements that aren’t specifically mentioned so we’ll be looking for or coming across them on our own. Hopefully they’ll wipe out the current record and stats in OTP given the changes. I’ll also be checking to see if they fixed the auto-inbounding that was plaguing the mode.

Continue on for the full details explained through a message from the dev team.

The patch for the PS3 was prematurely pushed live from Sony. They quickly pulled it, but we’re working on getting them to put it back up now that it’s out there (stay tuned on that one). The XBOX 360 patch should follow shortly, and we appreciate your patience!

We wanted to give you some details on what’s included in the patch. We listened to the community feedback very closely, and although we couldn’t get everything we wanted to in the patch due to size limitations (like beluba said earlier), we do think we’ve addressed some key issues.

  • The reception of NCAA Basketball 09, from a gameplay perspective, has been really good. Part of the luxury of being on the same engine for our basketball franchises is that we can differentiate between the two, but through the patch process, we’re able to get some of the really good things that the NCAA Basketball 09 team did. We addressed a lot of the gameplay complaints that you guys had including tuning shooting percentages, both overall and in contact situations, so that you’ll have a more realistic shooting percentage outcome. We also made some quick strike ballhandling, analog passing (logic and receptions) and jostle improvements.
  • The number one thing we were able to address was the responsiveness with block animations.
  • We adjusted the skill level of OTP to All-Star, so with lowered shooting percentages and a higher skill level, you should have a much improved OTP experience. Speaking of OTP, you’re now able to see the “Scouting” tab to look at position leaders (not just the GMs). We bumped up the club search window to 60 seconds so that you’ll have a better opportunity to find a club to play against.
  • You’re now also able to put headbands on NBA players, and the team color accessory bug has been fixed.
  • Teams with alternate home jerseys are now wearing their HOME shoes instead of their away.
  • There are other under the hood things included in the patch (like the autosave in FIBA mode now working) that we won’t go into, but we’re pretty confident that you’ll notice a difference in NBA LIVE 09.

Thanks for your support!

The NBA LIVE Dev Team

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  • Sean
    November 20, 2008 at 9:27 pm
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    Numero Uno

  • Amar
    November 20, 2008 at 9:30 pm
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    Who gives a damn about being first, give us the damn patch already!!!!! Defense is impossible without being able to jump when you push the jump button to lock a damn shot!!!

  • P1stons23
    November 20, 2008 at 10:19 pm
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    LOL had to put artest ugly ass as the Topic pic

  • sdot
    November 20, 2008 at 10:45 pm
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    so wen those dis come out cuz I HAVEN’T played live since da season tipped

    if ur NOT 1ST ur LAST

  • Justin tuck
    November 20, 2008 at 11:22 pm
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    1st baby 1st!

    all posters after me got boned.

  • J-Claw
    November 21, 2008 at 8:29 am
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    Hopefully they worked on making the fast breaks better, where guys stop running to the basket

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 21, 2008 at 8:30 am
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    LOL, dang Pasta you switched the feedback system up on me right as I was sending a very long detailed response to Dr. Logic. Uggggg.

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 21, 2008 at 8:33 am
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    @J-Claw, I don't think this is something that will get patched. Unfortunately this problem has been around last several years. It's being pushed at the Live Forums though.

  • pastapadre
    November 21, 2008 at 8:39 am
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    Ah sorry buddy. I've been working towards adding a rating system to the comments but had no success the past several weeks. I was able to get this new whole comment system installed and working just a few minutes ago. Check out the thumbs up and down ratings, plus the threaded comments like this reply to you. All I have to figure out is a way to let you guys edit your comments for a period of time after posting.

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 21, 2008 at 8:56 am
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    I like it, it's good. Threaded does help out a lot, instead of sorting through everything.

  • Mark
    November 21, 2008 at 9:28 am
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    Well i can finally take that headband off Vince Carter put the long socks/headband on Josh Boone & Keyon Dooling.

  • Regy
    November 21, 2008 at 9:50 am
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    As much as I like Live09 right now…I am not liking the EA college B-ball game. Rented it & also D/L'd the demo but I still just can't seem to really enjoy it. I was hoping for more of a college "experience" and neither this or last year's College Hoops 2k8 delivered.

  • Uk II Gamer
    November 21, 2008 at 5:29 am
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    So what about Sim stats in the Dynasty mode also? Rebound and Assist stats are too low and ruin the dynasty.

    Also Fast break, blocking and the menu’s still lagging are all much bigger issues that have been missed.

  • Tristate Killa
    November 21, 2008 at 6:14 am
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    At least Live cares about patching up there game unlike 2K9s unplayable team up play and a host of other issues that game has.As soon as I can afford Live I will pick it up without hesitation.

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 21, 2008 at 6:57 am
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    “Part of the luxury of being on the same engine for our basketball franchises is that we can differentiate between the two, but through the patch process, we’re able to get some of the really good things that the NCAA Basketball 09 team did. ”

    Wow, didn’t I just make this point to “Reignman” this week, and yet for some reason he just wants to argue.

    Pasta…have an idea I was thinking about, would like your thoughts on this. What if EA (or any other manufacturer) went to a yearly game engine update?

    For example: You can purchase a baseline copy of NBA Live 09 and installing it to your harddrive. The following year upon release of NBA Live 2010, you could update via Xbox Live/PS3 Network at a reduced price. This wouldn’t be the only way of getting NBA Live 2010, you could still purchase the disk. Don’t know if I’d actually do it, but just a thought on the way forward.

  • Uk II Gamer
    November 21, 2008 at 7:06 am
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    What EA need to do is allow true fans of the game to come in two/three months before the game has a rough release date and BETA test the game. Four or Five game fanatics pointing out all the flaws that need to be fixed. It’s partly free (bar accommodation & food) for EA and they get all the problems that need to be fixed before the game hits the shelf.

  • lenny
    November 21, 2008 at 8:31 am
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    sounds good nice job on the patch EA

  • ReignMan
    November 21, 2008 at 9:14 am
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    JR, You are naive again.

    First I said, having the same engine do not AUTOMATICALLY mean, that both games shall benefit from that, even if an EA producer says that. Time will tell.

    Second thing, EA want fresh, crunchy 60 bucks for all their games. Nearly all their games(except add-ons) has been released, are AAA games, well advertised, expensive games. It is not a good deal for EA to sell something for 20$, if they can sell the same thing for 60$, even if it is just a roster update. So its partly the money, partly the prestige, that the biggest producer company wont sell cheap games, they maintain to the corporate image “EA sells quality, expensive AAA games”. If they want to reduce the price, coz the sales are bad, they can not simply decrease it 20%, the only solution is what we have seen, a special discount, a special pass, BUT the product has got the same 60$ pricenote.

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 21, 2008 at 9:36 am
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    LOL@ReignMan back peddling. Seriously man, my point was proven, despite you being closed minded and not taking what anyone has to say with any positive regard. You stop now. You just want to rebute, and it’s a nasty habit for some on here. Seriously, watching you back peddle is very satisfying.

    @UK Gamer, EA does have community day events which Pasta has been apart of and given enormous amount of feedback for. If anyone has been super critical and to point out the flaws, it has been Pasta.

  • Dr Logic
    November 21, 2008 at 9:55 am
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    @ jr

    to bad pasta’s not a hardcore basketball fan. If he was, we all know which game he would perfer…

  • amedawg00
    November 21, 2008 at 10:03 am
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    Stop wasting your time with this game, patch or no patch, and join the underground of 2K9. Oops I guess its no longer underground considering the ass whipping its giving Live in terms of sales on both consoles.

  • Dr Logic
    November 21, 2008 at 10:16 am
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    Look,

    NBA Live community day should be considered a joke if there going to invite the likes of Pasta Pade and the 5w-g guys. Both have very nice sites but lets be real. If your are serious about improving your gameplay wouldnt it make more sense to have people at your community day that …

    A: Are actual hardcore fans of the sport you are trying to emulate. (yes, im am questioning your fan hood pasta and how much you actually follow the NBA)

    B: Don’t already favor the game before they even get there.(As Pasta has mentioned he favors NBA Live because thats what he’s used to and he doesnt want to learn new controls for a different game.)

    Honestly, I’m glad Pasta gets to go to EA’s community day because its more info for us, but if EA was serious about fixing their game, and up to this point they have not been, they would get some seriously hardcore 2k gamers or at least people who are already associated with or have background in the actual sport of basketball. People coming in with the proper background and a critical mindset are going to notice more things and therefore give more useful feedback and a hell of a lot more criticism, which is exactly what EA needs.

    Seriously EA, how many years have you had a community day event and still THE SHORTS IN EVERY EA GAME ARE AS STIFF AS A BOARD. IT LOOKS LIKE PLAYERS ARE WEARING CLOTHES FITTED FOR SPONGEBOB.

  • pastapadre
    November 21, 2008 at 10:29 am
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    @ Dr Logic:

    I actually don’t necessarily disagree with you. I’ve never considered myself hardcore, at least in the way people perceive that. I fall more inbetween the casual and hardcore. If you read my impressions of games it probably is easy to see I just play the games mostly based on fun factor and my gripes or likes branch off of that.

    Though if you look at my impressions coming out of community events, I think its been shown that what I point out usually ends up coming close to the consensus. For example before Madden 08 released I talked about the number of fumbles, injuries, and overpowered kicking game from the community event. For whatever reason no one else really found those to be problems, or at least they didn’t note them at the time. Those ended up being the most discussed issues the game had. So I think I generally have a feel for spotting those type of things.

    All that said, there is usually a mix of guys who attend events. At the Live event, look back over my impressions which were easily the most critical from anyone there. But there were “hardcore” guys representing at it, who jumped on some of the more intriquite details.

    The thing is that once we point something out, it is up to the developers to make the changes. Sometimes they may decide they don’t agree, other times they may not be able to make the changes before release, but there are cases of them taking the feedback and making direct changes based on it. So the benefits are there but maybe not to the extent that everyone hopes for. So look back on my event impressions, you’ll see that most of what I pointed out continue to be seen as deficiencies with the game, even though I discussed them.

  • r00tabaga
    November 21, 2008 at 10:46 am
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    @ JR (cabrillo24):

    I would have to disagree w/you JR…you beef the MOST out of any1 on this site. I know you are an experienced gamer and I think you’re the one that I D/L’d my settings from on the EA locker, but c’mon man lay off the ‘roids, Rasheed Wallace says he wants his temper back…

  • sdot
    November 21, 2008 at 1:11 pm
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    EA make Live good again

    if U DON’T I might develop a stutter

    puh puh please DON’T do dis 2 me

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 21, 2008 at 1:16 pm
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    Actually r00t, only two people I’ve “beef” with on here, and that’s sdot and recently Reignman. I’m never angry, I’m all for discussion. It’s when people base everything off their biased, and try to present it as facts is when I typically have to resort to facts and hold them accountable to what they say.

    I’ll be the first to admit, that NBA 2K9 is the better overall gaming experience. There are things about both games that make me enjoy it, and things about both games that frustrate me, but when I am analyze a game, I put any biased I have to the side and see what’s right in front of me.

    I’ve been called a 2K fanboy, a Live fanboy, I’m just a gamer who wants to see the best possible product from both ends. We can agree to disagree, you can have your preference and that is fine. If you come with facts to support your idea or opinion, vice trying to force your opinion on someone else then we are going to be fine.

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 21, 2008 at 1:25 pm
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    @Dr. Logic,

    I can agree with what you have to say, but I think there has to be a balance. You have to bring in someone who has an understanding of the direction that Live wants to go in, and can present realistic constructive feedback and not let it become a bitch session. Who would be identified as a person to go to the games? This last year NBA Live is really talking to the community, not only with community day events, but the producers are actually on the NBA Live forums interacting with the community, getting ideas, elaborating, consolidating wish list. I think NBA Live is a work in progress, but since its’ 2008 release it’s been moving in the right direction, and now with the engine being ran on two separate tittles, gives a lot more room for support.

    The reason why I started coming to the site was of how throurough Pasta was with his analysis of his visits to community day events and impressions. He’s notted the positives and negatives and leaves it up to the readers to determine what will appeal to them. In no way am I saying other sites don’t provide this, but Pasta also interacts with us on here and forwards our requests, questions and concerns to these developers.

    I’m sure if 2K offered Pasta a pass to come review the game, provide insight and what not, Pasta would more than gladly accept (who’d pass it up?)

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 22, 2008 at 1:16 am
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    #1, I proposed the idea for discussion that NBA Live could sell for $29.99 or a reduced price from $60 (the average range for a sports game) as 2K did in 2005 for their entire lineup to increase sales and to bring people add on to their base. I don't know how you can apply "facts" to a hypothetical situation ReignMan, please explain how you have, I'd really like to see you ellaborate on that issue. I actually discussed the possibility with Pasta and the benefits it could bring, even though we both know the possibility was unlikely, but it was a hypothetical situation and if the EA Season Pass comes to fruition, then yes NBA Live 2010 could go for $29.99 – $39.00 when you include all the other trade in promotions that EBGAMES/GAMESTOP offers combined with the EA Season Pass.

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 22, 2008 at 1:23 am
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    So lets recap. I made a proposal to Pasta to get his outlook. He replied that the price is more than likely set by the NBA for all NBA games. The discussion basically ended there. Then when the EA season pass came out, the likely hood of NBA Live going for $29.99 – $39.99 becomes very likely if EA Season Pass becomes a reality.

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 22, 2008 at 1:24 am
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    NBA 2K5 was a highly rated game, but at the time only appealed to it's hardcore based since it didn't have the marketing or name recognition of EA Sports. 2005 was a HUGE year for 2K Sports. They did have highly reviewed games, but they had highly reviewed games years before and that didn't make them a market leader. What made them a market leader was the fact their ENTIRE sports lineup went for $19.99. The average consumer won here. They could buy a game that was rated on par with NBA Live for $30 less (Same for ESPN 2K Football). So the consumers instantly felt this was a win/win scenario. They could purchase NBA 2K5 and ESPN 2K5 Football for the same price of only 1 EA Game. This brought a new following, and this sat well with it's current base.

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 22, 2008 at 1:25 am
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    EA has to take this route with their NBA Live lineup, otherwise any improvements they make will only cater to their base. NBA Live will not introduce a new followership unless there is incentive to take a chance with NBA Live.

    EA's path to NBA Live lead in the NBA videogame market will require they continue to improving their game play, and to give users an incentive to purchase the game.

    Let's say next year NBA Live gets on par with 2K10. If they have equal ratings. What will this do? Majority of people will stick to 2K because of loyalty, and because the game would still be a good game, and it's something they know, they won't have to step out of their comfort zone.

    There has to be an incentive to bring people in, and you have to know your consumer base. What is the biggest issue for most consumers in the country? The economy. This is a great opprotunity for EA to regain their market lead.

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 22, 2008 at 1:26 am
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    As for you peddling ReignMan, what a short memory you have. I brought up the scenario where that 2 EA basketball franchieses were using the same engine; therefore, they both would benefit as they would implement new features, animations, basically doubling their efforts. You said that it wouldn't happen…yadda…yadda…yadda. And now that EA has came out and basically agreed with my aforementioned arguement you try and switch what you said around, rather than just saying "JR, you were right, I was wrong". You didn't have to say anything, your silence alone would have been enough, yet you continue to dig a hole with your argument.

    Please tell me what facts you are providing ReignMan. I give detailed and thoughtful explanation for my thoughts, and you give your biased opinion with no facts other than "How the he could NA Live 2010 go for $20". I never said $20, I said $29.99 (so that shows you don't really read what I have to write) and I've explained to you 3 times how NBA Live could go for that price combined with the EA Season Pass if that does turn out to be real. In fact, PASTA even agreed that this could be very possible if the EA Season Pass ends up being real, pending any restrictions.

    Thank you and good day ReignMan. I know you wont concede, I don't expect you to. I expect you to continue to try and put your "facts".

    As for NBA Live 06, you can get it for $19.99 my friend,

    http://gamequestdirect.com/014633151374.html?utm_...

    If you purchase it for $29.99 you're a moron. Who's buying NBA Live 06 anyway?

    In fact, I'm not going to even rebut on this thread, because honestly, you're just trolling and you have to have the last word, because I've basically backed up my argument and you're still back peddling and trying to take what I say out of context and I'm still making my case. So by all means, have your last word, I won't be in this thread to stop you. :)

  • JR (cabrillo24)
    November 22, 2008 at 1:28 am
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    Sorry for the multiple posts, Pasta this was supposed to be one sub thread, but I had a connection timeout with your new system, and I had to break them down into multiple posts. Never had this issue with the other system, but then again I think I'm the only one who writes as much as I do.

  • ReignMan
    November 22, 2008 at 2:21 am
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    Wow, impressive.

    What You can not see, is that we are on the same site! We have the same goal, and question, how NBA LIVE can sit back to its throne? You think, a pricedrop shall help, I said, I can not imagine, that EA would push down the price (pass, reduction, etc) to 30 dollars, due to prestige. Even Monopoly, which is not a mainstream EA game costs 60$. Probably 50$ and HUGE improvements could help them to climb back. Another reason is the royalty to Microsoft after every game, as MS is selling the XBOX system under its true value, as everyone knows, and the mentioned 2k5 lineup were not x360 games. Plus its risky to compare price-strategies of Take2 and EA.

    Thanks for the price-update, but where I live, in the EU, xbox360 starts from 30$.

    So sit back, relax, we are in the same boat, but I whip EA and criticy its games, You are trying to suggest them price-strategies. I do not know, which is less effective.

    PEACE

  • ReignMan
    November 22, 2008 at 2:40 am
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    JR: What is the biggest issue for most consumers in the country? The economy.

    The dime has got 2 sides. What is the biggest issue for most companies in the world? The economy.

    As Ford can not sale their cars by 50% cheaper, as Samsung can not have a 50% pricedrop on LCD TVs, software is the same product, half-price in the market is almost a suicide movement.

  • ReignMan
    November 22, 2008 at 6:34 am
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    @JR
    "and try to present it as facts is when I typically have to resort to facts and hold them accountable to what they say."

    Excuse me, but You had the dream of EA games for 20 dollars, I just replied the FACTS, why it is impossible. I believe, that You just want the benefit of the community, certainly I want 20 dollars xbox360 softwares, but that is never gonna happen as NBA live 06 costs still more than 30 dollars, how the hell could be nba live 2010 20 dollars?

    If You truly like discussion and facts, why do You biase me 'peddling', and why You can not rebut my facts?

  • Liam
    November 22, 2008 at 12:33 pm
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    can we put headbands on any players? on the xbox 360 version (when we download the patch)

    also can we CHHOSE the headband colour for this.

    thanks

  • rdelizo35
    November 23, 2008 at 3:19 am
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    Personally, after a rough start, I'm pleasantly surprised at the reception that NCAA Basketball is getting. I'm excited to see how NBA Live '09 plays post-patch. I think that there are going to be people out there who are going to like NBA Live '09 more than they did before the patch came out.

  • DrLogic
    November 23, 2008 at 10:17 am
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    isnt that the whole point of a patch

  • Liam
    December 1, 2008 at 8:40 am
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    on the headband issue

    1. can we change the colour of the headbands
    2. can we change sock colour aswell?

    please get back to me

    cheers

  • Joey
    December 12, 2008 at 11:12 am
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    Soooo when do I have to stop seeing Allan Houston(when I say Allan Houston I mean a bar going through the screen and what is left looks like it is from the movie “the thing”)???????

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