Long Wait Ahead For MLB 10: The Show Patch

by pastapadre
Posted March 9th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

With the numerous issues being found in MLB 10: The Show, the heavy concentration of which are seen in Franchise mode, it would stand to reason that a patch would be expedited. However it is now being realized that the next patch will be a long ways off as work on it won’t even begin until the end of the month. That could make its targeted arrival late April, but even that isn’t going to be assured and it could very well be longer.

As posted today on the MLB: The Show Community Forum by SCEA representative: “We will start working on the next patch when the team comes back from break at the end of the month.”

Last year the main patch for MLB 09 dropped in the final week of April and actually ruined existing Road to the Show and Franchises. No word yet if this upcoming patch will require restarting those modes. The timeline could be similar or, due to more problems to be addressed this year, take more time. The longer the wait stretches on the more unreasonable it would be to expect everyone to start over or hold off until then to begin.

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Amen Ra

Look man, I don't have a beef with you, I was quoting you when I said “get it through your head” just added ina little extra LOL.

Regardless, I'm sick of people making excuses for these fucking developers. I was an investment banker before the “crash” and we routinely worked 80+ hour weeks for several months at a time without Overtime, and we weren't allowed a month long vacation right after the project was finished. If anything the vacation should be allowed right before the next one is started. they should have fixed the glaring issues with franchise, then took their little retreat. We are not talking about little minor issues like an occasional misplayed misplayed grounder or stat overlay, we are talking about a HUGE staple of the game being fucked up and unplayable. I just don't see how people can excuse this garbage.

The Entitlement Generation

Don’t you guys make around 250K a year? Developers average 77K a year…
ummmmmm no

Was this in Second Life?

Amen Ra

I always thought MVP was over-rated. People always believe things were better in the past, but in reality MVP was no better than the Show.

This franchise stuff is pathetic though. Maybe the layoffs affected the Q and A, but whoever those community days were were they let the whole gaming community team. I bet it was a stroke fest anyway which obviously added nothing to the game,
tom cruz

The black players in the game are causing my tv to catch on fire is there gonna be a patch to fix and get rid of the black players
Keith.

Pasta will never see anything too negative about Madden, given his close ties to the developers. He never called Tiburon out for going on vacation the month and a half after Madden was released. If any one recalls, nobody could get a word out of Ian and co. until November (except for the canned puffery video that Ian released soon after the game was released, pumping up the patches that were to come so that a lot of people wouldn't go off and trade in their copy of the game).

Pasta's saying that The Show needs “a spark,” after giving Madden game of the year, is really a joke.
joeross

i think some of the animosity comes from other places. you get banned for saying anything negative about the show at OS or threads locked if its about anything that they dont want to hear you talk about. then on the show's community site banned and locked often too. glad this place lets everyone vent about the problems with the game and how us gamers are being treated this year
cbrock24

Oh stop, the game is $60 (if you need to save for a $60 game, maybe you should be using your money elsewhere) and well worth it. Severely flawed? Not even close.
cbrock24

So dropping back 20 yards to throw a bomb 60 yards down the field is not a flaw? Ever think expectations are too high?
mattcolby

Epic fail for The Show this season. You could almost forgive the bugs last year with it being the first next gen release, but this season there is no excuse. This game has gone from a highly anticipated game every year to a wait and see title from now on for me. I'll be getting it from gamefly next year instead of plopping down $60 on a preorder.

Still enjoying playing in Season mode, but I highly doubt they are suddenly going to figure it all out in a patch and correct the other modes (they couldn't even get a simple roster potential rating fix right) so epic fail on their part. Here's to hoping they actually learn their lesson this year and don't become complacent. That could be bad for all of us.
mattcolby

How well does the 2K franchise work? One thing I always liked about that game was the ability to make decisions in the quickplay mode (not sure what they called it, but it's the mode where there are no graphics and just the results of the plays etc..) I hate that The Show just makes you watch it and not really make any substantial decisions.

Does the franchise in 2K actually work well? I've heard the stats are a little off, but if the basic stuff works right I can deal with that. Any info you can give on your experience with the franchise mode would be great. I really need to get my franchise play fix, and if the Show won't give it to me, maybe I'll have to break down and buy 2K this year.
mattcolby

Wanting a game to release with features that actually work is not being a snob. Especially a game that is as highly rated and anticipated as this one. Having features that are absolutely broken is not acceptable, especially when the bugs can be found after just a couple of hours of gameplay. There is no way they didn't know these issues existed and they still released the game. Some of the issues (i.e game stopping on certain dates and not letting you continue) were actually in last year's game as well! So it was ignored two years running. Not acceptable.

I can deal with the minor issues, because no game is perfect, but not when the issues effect a major portion of the game.
mattcolby

So what do you do when the draft comes up? You either have to sim the entire draft and not get to select your own players, or you get to draft for every team. Doesn't seem like either solution is a good one there.
Amen Ra

I'm with you 100% in this one.
mattcolby

That's all I'm doing right now and I'm having a blast. I figured I'd just play short seasons with different teams and just enjoy the good parts of the game, because the gameplay is still the best around.

I am upset that I can't play franchise mode without the fear of it locking up at some point and not letting me continue (had this happen once already) and had this happen as well last season in RTTS so I'm sure the issue is still there as well. Not about to put in the time there and run into that glitch again. I would even put up with the weird transactions if I knew the franchise would actually work multiple seasons without me having to start over from scratch.

But this season looks like it's just season mode for me.
cbrock24

Maybe you got a different game because my game works. And my game worked on all dates. Absolutely broken?! What is absolutely broken that you can't play? They will fix the minor issues.
mattcolby

Nevermind mind question. I went over to Operation Sports to see what people were saying about 2K and it's got similar problems in franchise mode i.e unrealistic sim stats, contract being out of whack etc…I think I'll just stick to the great on the field gameplay of The Show this season and wait for Out of the Park 11 to release in April for my franchise fix.
mattcolby

Well, let's see, in addition to the issues in franchise that people have brought up, when I simmed a season to check it out for myself I couldn't even get past August 12th because the game wouldn't let me sim beyond that date. Same thing happened on certain dates for people last season in RTTS.

And if you actually read my post, you will see that I didn't say the entire game is broken, just certain main features. Just because you might be a few games into a franchise and nothing has happened yet, wait until you get to some unknown date in your franchise and for no particular reason you can't continue. All that time invested and you have to start over again. That's broken.

And the same issue was in last year's game in RTTS. I spent numerous hours in RTTS last year only to have that time wasted because inexplicably the game decided to not let me continue on a certain date. And I wasn't alone. People were posting their issues and they were certainly “listening” but it never got fixed.

The fact that the first time I even tried to sim through a season in franchise mode and the issue came up again just lets me know not to invest anymore time in these modes because they are broken. And that's not even talking about all the weird transaction issues that I could actually live with it I knew it would actually work.

Enough info for you? So since you think the game is perfect, don't come crying on here after you've invested X amount of hours in a franchise and because of some unknown glitch you can't continue it.

I happen to love playing the game in Season mode because I don't have to worry about these things. I think the gameplay is still the best around.
mattcolby

Now who sounds like a snob?
cbrock24

Actually you do. It's a GAME. When did you see me write the game is perfect??? My original post: “Raise your hand if you have played a video game without glitches….OK, that's what I thought. I have played the series for a few years and still think the game is great. Quit being video game snobs. Play the game, have fun, and move on to the next when you get bored/frustrated.” Yeah, really saying the game is perfect..
http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Murzyn/1671612906 Nick Murzyn

I mean TBH, i think it playes well you just have to adjust sliders to your liking. trust me when i tell you this i was so disgusted with 2k9 last year i never thought i would give 2k my money ever again but i did decide to buy 2k for some odd reason and if i thought at all it would not be worth sinking my time into it i would have returned it but its a good play, you can really fell the difference between a 75 rated pitcher and a 86 rated pitcher and thats huge IMO. if i thought at all i wasnt getting my moneys worth i would have returned it but im having much less problems in 2k franchise than i am with the show
edude

That's true – that's an annoying, stupid side-effect of it.
Although, what if you switch Trading back to Auto Global on draft day? Maybe that'd work?
Amen Ra

Why don't you stop being a video game bitch and letting these developers fuck you.
mattcolby

And I quote, “if you need to save for a $60 game, maybe you should be using your money elsewhere”
If that's not a snobbish comment I don't know what is.

And when did you see anyone else write the game was perfect either? And someone pointing out major problems with the game is not being a snob. Someone calling them out and belittling them actually is. Maybe you need to look up the definition of a snob in the dictionary before you start calling people that.

And I'm the furthest thing from a video game snob. I have a gamefly account and play just about all the big releases and for the most part love every minute of it. The Show and God of War III are the two reasons I bought my PS3, because I already owned a 360 at the time. So seeing all the issues with The Show is just disappointing, and everyone has a right to voice that disappointment.
mattcolby

Can you do that in the middle of a franchise? If you can, that might actually work. I still wish I would have never tried to sim a season since I ran into the glitch where it stops on a date and doesn't let you continue. I'd love to try the control 30 teams method, but after all that trouble if that glitch happens again after spending all the hours developing a franchise, I would be one pissed off gamer, and I don't know if I want to risk going down that road.

I think I'm enjoying Season mode enough to keep me happy for now. Just wish “workarounds” weren't necessary to enjoy the franchise mode. And that being said, what if they patch it a month from now and fix it (highly doubtful they will actually be able to fix it really), but you have to start the franchise over again? I don't know. Just frustrated. Thanks for the info, though
edude

Hey matt –
I'll test that switching to auto thing out tonight for the draft. I would bet it works.

I have simmed through a couple seasons with no freeze-up. Maybe it's a random thing only when simmed? So if u actually played the game, it'd be ok.

Yep – the game's so damn good and fun to play, then such a letdown w/ the logistics.
Bighousefan

I'm glad I don't do franchise or RTTS, I just pick up and play and may do 1 season while simming several games in a 162 season. With that said, I love it, it plays just fine to me…
sroeland

MLB 09 was not the first next gen Sony baseball game…MLB 07 was.
mattcolby

Yeah, realized that after I typed it. Epic fail on my part
mattcolby

Well, I would hope that would be true. But knowing the issue is there, it's hard to invest the time knowing it “could” happen, because there's no way I could get through a franchise without simming some of the games.

Some have speculated that the the freezing occurs because the AI GM for the other teams doesn't make the required transactions at that point to move forward so it won't continue. So maybe controlling all the teams alliviates this problem. If it freezes you can check all the rosters for errors and correct the error to continue. It's really odd because the game lets you do everything else but sim past that date, so it technically doesn't “freeze”, it just doesn't let you sim anymore.

Let us know how the “workaround” works with the draft. It might make it bearable to start a franchise, although I might still just stick to the Season mode cause I'm still having some fun with that. Gives me a chance to play a short season with one team and then try and win it all with another with the next playthrough. Kind of a different way to play for me, but I like getting to see more teams and play with different teams rather than just one. Plus all the stats are generated by me only so that's cool too.

Anonymous

That makes sense – that the cpu messes up its rosters so much you can’t continue.
So yeah, maybe that fixes that as well.

Man, I feel bad for people who bought this game and don’t know much about the Internets!

The Franchise, to me, is a bit overwhelming with things to keep track of. I work a full time job and have a life – which gets in the way of remembering all these fixes/go-arounds.

So yeah, that’s a good idea. I may just do the Season mode – does Season Mode have the same trade issues?

Plus, I doubt I’ll make it through one-two Franchise year anyways.

Anonymous

Haven’t noticed any issues with Season mode. Of course I’m only playing a 14 game season so it’s hard to believe the computer could screw things up in such a short time. I like to play such a short season so I can try another team after that (I’m 2-5 with the sucky Astros right now; will try the Rangers next)

I’m the same as you. Have a lot of time at work to post here during the day, so it seems like I don’t have a life, but I do. Got a baby on the way and only a couple of hours at the most at night to play so dealing with all the franchise “workarounds” just doesn’t seem plausible. Plus I play other games too besides this, so Season mode is fine with me.

If you love good sim type games, try out Out of the Park Baseball for the PC (new version releases this April) I’ve been playing that game for years. It’s a text based sim that gets all this franchise stuff right and then some. I get my in game, on the field fix from The Show and my total control franchise type stuff from Out of the Park. If they could somehow combine their simulation engine with The Show’s in game performance it would be the perfect game. Will never happen in a million years, but one can dream.

Anonymous

I started my “season” last night. Set all trades and injuries to manual so I’ll make it happen along w/ force trade.

For the draft, because it’s a season, I’m content just letting it fly w/ a random draft. And then I can force trade to get the young guys i want – (There’s no complicated minor league w/ season, thank god)

That’s another stupid thing, is how the minors and majors are all meshed together in Roster Management. They couldn’t put a damn line inbetween them? Or am I miss some menu?

Plus, the season never froze. Tried it a few times.

But anyway, so far so good w/ those settings. I may have to “make” a few things happen, and off-season is annoying cuz every team can pop up w/ necessary moves, but I’m a happy player for now.

Bisett

I understand why you girls are bitter.

You been dick riding The Show for so long your pussies are sore.

Take a break for awhile and hop on 2k10 when your your rdy to ride again
neptune

I'm officially pissed !
mattcolby

No thanks, riding 2K10 would only give us some major STDs.
cbrock24

So people are not acting like snobs? How many people have called out developers for not knowing what they are doing and told them how to do their jobs?. I'm calling out the people who drop $60 and expect perfection. There are some gamers that will NEVER be satisfied. If you don't fit the description, I am not calling you a snob. Some people are getting defensive for a reason.
cbrock24

And I quote, “if you need to save for a $60 game, maybe you should be using your money elsewhere”
If that's not a snobbish comment I don't know what is. Actually it is not a snobbish comment. If you are over the age of 22 and need to save up $60, it's true, you are not saving your money correctly.
DjNunez

I agree, i got MLB 2K10 first this year, its actually not that bad and i haven't got any glitches. So give it a try. Doesn't it bother anyone else that P3 fan boys act like it's a sin to have MLB 2k10 for the P3.
Bitches man, Bitches.
cbrock24

Wow, nice response.
JTT99

scea seems to be pretty bad at communication. even if theyre on vacation that was not smart to say when people are waiting on them to fix big problems and give a complete product finally. they screwed people over with the demo too and acted like it didnt matter. then you cant even talk about any of it on their own forum or on OS without getting locked and banned which is insane.
vinny del negro

people are angry at the numerous glitches and problems in franchise like not being able to send the african american players back to africa and the fact that they left out the white supremacy mode completely this year
mike

I love how none of these online games count, constantly beating the idiots that pick the sox and yankees every game with teams like the padres but they have to disconnect so I never get wins, its amazing how poor of a job they did on this game this year, its really disappointing
Matt Bug

Thanks for the updates, Pasta. I'm not online much and just happened upon your site. Good info.

When I bought MLB10 The Show, I immediately tried Franchise Mode and noticed so many bugs I had to stop. For now, while we await a new patch, I'm limited to RTTS play and a few online games. I'm enjoying the RTTS improvements. Question regarding the RTTS “Calling The Game” feature: Have the developers mentioned why Training Points are not rewarded for this? It's a really nice, impressive feature (save the omission of a pickoff signal), but after calling a great game, it was a let-down not to see any Training Points rewarded to my RTTS player.
redrza

Pasta, you keep mentioning franchise being very buggy, but online is a complete mess. Specifically, games played wins/losses not being recorded, online leagues being completely broken from not being able to even get back into them once they start(my league is stuck at “Initializing league office”, to stats and records being messed up. But the worst part is how many times this game completely locks up the PS3 console.

Even after completing an online game fully, when you press exit to go back to the lobbies, it freezes up the console. This game is VERY BUGGY and needs to be looked at.
redrza

Pasta, you still haven't mentioned all the bugs in the online portion of the game. This game in a little over a week has “locked up” my PS3 more times than i care to mention. Even after completing an online game fully, when hitting “exit” to go back to the lobby, the game constantly freezes requiring a manual shut off of the PS3. Other times there are disconnects and wins/losses not registering. Forget about online leagues. After 3 games in, we cant even access the league, get stuck at a screen saying “Initializing league office”, which also causes us to manually shut off the console.

This game is VERY buggy. I'm really hoping they can fix all of this.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000486371868 Brian Lindsey

but for those of you that dont want to spend 60 dollars the demo has showed up in the PlayStation Store
Justin

It's virtually the same damn game every year, how is it even possible that they continue not fixing these stupid issues from year to year? Bring MVP back because this shit is just tired.
Justin

It's virtually the same damn game every year, how is it even possible that they continue not fixing these stupid issues from year to year? Bring MVP back because this shit is just tired.
Dave

I completely disagree. They might have always had the technical issues with video and/or sound, but never released unplayable franchise modes (or now my player and RTTS). These issues have nothing to do with the complexities of endless computer configurations that make some bugs understandable. They clearly released these games in BETA state and we were asked to do the testing for a $60 fee. Having a mode be unplayable for the majority of users because of the game logic is not an oversight, it is blatant indifference that will continue to get worse if we continue to buy these POS games. I will admit that The Show (viewed at Best Buy) has amazing graphics and great gameplay in Exhibition Mode, but invest time in the other modes at your own risk. We really need a one year boycott of both of these crap franchises. MLB 2K and The Show can only be considered games that support Exhibition Mode and nothing else.
Dave

every mode in 2k10 is broken on the pc. The “my career” mode broke in the playoffs for me twice and franchise mode is riddled with bugs that make it unplayable. exlusive license has ruined this genre and is probably the worst I have ever seen it. I will not buy The Show since their support last year sucked. You can't send your devs on vacation if the franchise and rtts modes didn't work for more than a year. I will never buy either game again until they have at least one stable release (and i don't mean 2 months later after the first patch pulls it out of beta). Paying $60 bucks to do their testing is UNFORGIVABLE.