Long Wait Ahead For MLB 10: The Show Patch

by pastapadre
Posted March 9th, 2010 at 5:56 pm

With the numerous issues being found in MLB 10: The Show, the heavy concentration of which are seen in Franchise mode, it would stand to reason that a patch would be expedited. However it is now being realized that the next patch will be a long ways off as work on it won’t even begin until the end of the month. That could make its targeted arrival late April, but even that isn’t going to be assured and it could very well be longer.

As posted today on the MLB: The Show Community Forum by SCEA representative: “We will start working on the next patch when the team comes back from break at the end of the month.”

Last year the main patch for MLB 09 dropped in the final week of April and actually ruined existing Road to the Show and Franchises. No word yet if this upcoming patch will require restarting those modes. The timeline could be similar or, due to more problems to be addressed this year, take more time. The longer the wait stretches on the more unreasonable it would be to expect everyone to start over or hold off until then to begin.

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  • ponn$$$

    damn the baseball games suck this year. 2k10 broken online play and the show broken franchise mode. seriously frustrating.

  • AndrewP2

    Wanted to say Pasta since someone made the comment on the previous article but I get a good laugh out of your screenshots how you sometimes use them to illustrate the emotions of the news!

  • Mike

    serious question pasta….games used 2 never have this many problems and b4 all these patches these problems never happended 2 this extent.

    Now there are a lot of problems that need fixing with patches in many sports games… y is that?

    sorry its poorly worded but i couldnt use better words…thx

  • http://twitter.com/DaveDQ David D.

    So why did this game score in the high nines? I'm beginning to wonder if it's just “pop” to love on The Show. People talk about it being the best representation of baseball ever. I don't get it.

  • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

    Most reviewers, especially when it comes to sports games where they may not be experts in the sports being replicated, rely on reputation. They are slower to catch onto games on the rise or those slipping than fans of these series' are. Many will just spend a few hours with a game, won't go deep into Franchise or Online Play for certain, and they give a score. It sucks but that's how its been this generation.

  • j.oasis

    haha yeah look at McCutchen and the fans they are like WTF is going on LOL

  • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

    Oh I think the games have always had just as many problems as they do now. Thing is back then no one had the same expectations as we do now. People got the games and took them for what they were. Now with the capability to fix, and that being the norm for post-release support, there are more demands on the products being offered. It is ironic but the closer these games get to replicating real life, the more any issues stand out as glaringly bad.

  • gregg

    like i said before scea has gotten arrogant and lazy. first not making many improvements this year, then the demo thing, now taking vacation after the game releases. maybe this year will check them back to reality and theyll do more next year. it doesnt take long to go from the top to the bottom.

  • ricolaguna

    For the very same reasons why Jordan never got the calls, my friend

  • The Entitlement Generation

    Uh, you do realize that EVERY developer takes a break after finishing a game?

  • tommy

    bryan, do u think the show is getting stale?
    i would think an overhaul of presentation is in order.
    look how well its done in 2k this year
    dynamic cmmentary, dynamic stats, its off the cheezie!

  • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

    To an extent yes. For people who play it year to year, I'm having trouble finding much exciting about the game. Its still very good, but they do need to refresh the experience from top to bottom.

  • gregg

    that simply isnt true. how does Madden, NBA 2K, Live, MLB 2K, NHL, and more collect feedback and get a patch out about a month after the game releases then? if everyone was on vacation that would not be happening obviously.

  • taj gibson

    there is a serious glitch when you try to exterminate the black people and send them down to africa they dont go. just a gamebreaker for me things like this shouldnt be over looked

  • SoCalMoose

    Honestly I can understand taking a break, and maybe even waiting to update rosters until at least the start of the season. Ok, no problem… BUT when there are fundamental problems with a game the developer needs to correct it ASAP. Actually the developers OWE it to us, the consumer ASAP. Franchise mode is currently unplayable, unless you control all 30 teams or if you dont mind Papi Ortiz, Pedroia and Beckett being traded for a minor league C and RP (yes this happened in my franchise)

    Sucks to be us, the consumer!

  • The Entitlement Generation

    First off, SCEA is collecting A LOT of feedback. Check out operation sports. The developers are responding to and even starting feedback threads there.

    Secondly, for Madden, the patch came out on September 25th, while the game came out August 6th. For NBA 2K10, the patch came out on November 15th, the game released in early October. For each of those, it took roughly a month and a half between game release and patch 1 release. And yes, their developers took a month long break, came back, worked on the patch and released it, hence the average 1.5 month wait.

    The ETA for the MLB 10 patch is mid April. The game of course, released in early March. That's GASP 1.5 months! Whodathunkit?

    Quit whining.

  • gregg

    haha right great math dude. according to you they were able to make the patch and get it through certification in a matter of days. certification alone usually takes 2 weeks to get through, then at least 2 weeks on making it. the quickest possible turnaround is a month. so i guess madden, nba 2k, nba live, nhl, all those teams were working on the patch from their vacation spots LOL

  • AOT

    is anyone surprised by this? its sony's MO. they did it with the PS3 expecting people would buy it just cause. now they are doing it with the show expecting people will buy it because they have been the last 2 years. they are in for a rude awakening if they dont turn things around

  • berad1010

    Should I just play season mode

  • berad1010

    Can i control all 30 teams in season mode?

  • Mike

    that makes sence thx for responding

  • cbrock24

    Raise your hand if you have played a video game without glitches….OK, that's what I thought. I have played the series for a few years and still think the game is great. Quit being video game snobs. Play the game, have fun, and move on to the next when you get bored/frustrated.

  • The Entitlement Generation

    Oh for heaven's sake.

    This is from Ian Cummings, head developer of Madden 10.

    “Great post – thanks Mr. Vaccaro.

    As someone stated above, we've basically just been on vacation. We're working on blogs now (videos included) to release soon, so I'll try to incorporate answers to these as well.

    We'll get back here on the forums more regularly in due time…we all are just recovering a bit still.”

    Link here: http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nf...

    Developers. Take. Vacations. After. Game. Releases. Get it in your head and stop whining.

  • Amen Ra

    Developers should get they ass back in the lab and finish the fucking job before going on vacation. You get that shit through your head.

  • The Entitlement Generation

    Why should I “get that shit through my head”? I'm not a developer. Your beef is with them not me.

    The reason why developers take vacations after releases is because they work extremely long hours each day the months before a release. Overworking game developers has actually been a pretty big issue in the game development sector.

    If anything, you should blame the publisher for imposing such insane deadlines and demanding a new sports game every year, leading to very short development cycle. You could also blame the gaming public (which unfortunately includes yourself) for that.

  • greg

    Damnit.

  • joemoedee

    It's not an entitlement issue. It's a product quality issue. The end-users have become beta testers, and its becoming increasingly difficult to get excited for a launch day purchase when it seems games, especially sports games, will be released with some serious issues. 1.5 months after dropping $60 it may work properly? That's ridiculous, no matter how you put it.

    I work in a software development group. Our typical development cycle is half in development iterations, and half in testing. Upon launch, we're in constant communication with the tech support group to make sure any pressing issues are addressed immediately. Typically there's nothing major, due to the long, extensive testing that has been done PRIOR to launch.

    I mean, granted, we're looking at business software versus consumer software here, but games, especially at launch, are not cheap. I cannot condemn a user being angry at the current state of sports game launch quality.

  • The Entitlement Generation

    I have no issue with people being angry with severe bugs in games. My only issue was with gregg who somehow doesn't understand that developers are human beings too.

  • Trojan92

    Pasta, I disagree, the Show has some ways to go to truly capture the true “realism” of baseball, so there's always something to look forward to every year before they get it “perfect”.

    They are missing bat boys and ball girls, no rain delays, no retractable roofs and no double headers. Imagine a storm rolling in the umpire calls for the rain delay and the grounds crew rolls out the tarp or they call for the roof to be closed.

    Even if they add all that stuff they still need to tweak the physics of the game, like I said yesterday it seems like every time they add a new feature something “basic” gets overlooked. There's no reason why I hit a home run off the left field wall in Minute Maid Park in 08's game, then in 09's game hit a home run in the same place and it goes through the wall. Not to mention fans “phasing” through the backstops as they walk up and down the steps, players running through each other and the missing backstop netting. These are flaws that have been prevalent since the PS-One days!

    So what you're saying that release these tweaks and new features in future versions of the game that interest will die down? Target Field, Real-Time Presentation, populated bullpens and dugouts are worth it to me to buy this year's game over last year's.

    If you're a true baseball gamer, I can't see how you can say this franchise getting “stale”, or folks are getting “bored” with it. I'm a Nats and O's fan and I still go to their games even though both teams suck, because I love baseball. The game will sell as long as there are baseball fans who one PS3s out there (PSPs and PS2s too).

  • SoCalMoose

    I am not being a 'snob' and I think very few people are. We pay our hard earned money for a product. This year the product is severely flawed. And they have no plans of fixing said problem because they are on “vacation”… This practice would be un-acceptable in any other business.

    Franchise mode is completely broken… end of story.

  • http://www.mathewballard.com mathewballard

    Oh, how the mighty falter!

    Note: I'm not a fanboy of 2K. I have always thought the MLB Series was the best baseball series.

  • http://www.mathewballard.com mathewballard

    You may want to take a look at Baseball Mogul when the next one comes out later this month.

  • umm

    I think you mean overworking developers has been a big issue at EA.

    They got busted making it mandatory for many programmers to work 100 hour weeks and not even giving them full overtime. Yes, they were required to work from like 9 am to 10 pm 7 days a week.

    Wow, gooooo EA!!! You treat your workers like shit and still make crappy games.

  • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

    Not saying its the case for everyone. But, for example, as someone who primarily plays a career mode (offline) or online The Show either hasn't delivered or hasn't innovated in quite some time. RTTS is largely unchanged over the past few years, and online finally is playable this year in most cases but outside of that they've fallen behind in feature set.

    I don't pretend to speak for everyone, obviously the game remains popular for a reason. Just that, to me, they need a spark next year.

  • sucky

    It's not just Ortiz, Pedroia, and Beckett that get traded for random fake minor leaguers, it's every good player in baseball that this happens to.

    Not to mention that many of the best players in baseball get put on waivers and you get them all on your team.

    As you said, Franchise mode is unplayable.

  • me me me

    *raises hand*

    Tecmo Super Bowl

    Best. Game. Ever

  • The Entitlement Generation

    The problem isn't limited to EA.

  • word

    I agree with what you're saying.

    I think the biggest problem with the companies that make sports games is that they overestimate the amount of people that truly care about playing online and underestimate (or in some cases have completely abandoned) the people that buy sports games for franchise mode.

    NBA2k vs. Live: Live clearly has a better online experience, but 2k series absolutely crushes it in sales. Why? Because NBA2k has probably the best franchise mode of any sports game out there.

    Obviously the future is in online franchise, but I think we're at least a couple years away from getting something that will be good enough to appeal to people to play that over offline franchise.

    The first game that can make a killer online franchise mode will absolutely dominate sales.

  • umm

    good work on refuting my post with no evidence whatsoever

  • http://www.seriously.com/ Lasagna_Father

    Do you really dislike the show so much that you can't even be unbiased on your site?

    Seriously, I could understand an article about the delay, but then to throw in the fact that last year's patch “Broke” some RTTS is really unnecessary.

    Glad I don't read this site that much…

  • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

    This is a first…never thought I'd see a comment saying I'm too hard on The Show! No matter how good the game is, the developers should be held accountable. And yes, citing that last year's patch broke any ongoing RTTS or Franchises is relevant here because everyone right now carries the concern that the possibility is there for it to happen again.

  • Badluck

    Agree 100%
    i would be perfectly happy if madden didnt change a thing regarding online and focused all their time on making the offline game better.

  • Badluck

    its obvious you dont read the site that much, because if you did you would realize just how stupid that comment was

  • okafor43

    Pasta is Franchise mode even playable with all the bugs and problems????

  • The Entitlement Generation

    http://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/01/14/igda-roc...

    http://rc3.org/2008/05/20/working-conditions-fo...

    From an article about the game industry as a whole: http://push.cx/2009/the-game-industry
    “When management makes a mistake in scheduling, the employees are punished with mandatory unpaid overtime called “crunch time”. Employees are scheduled to work 10 to 14 hours per day and 6 or 7 days per week for weeks or months at a time.”

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-5449296-7.html
    “The complaints echo findings from a survey earlier this year of developers by the International Game Developers Association. “Crunch time is omnipresent, during which respondents work 65 to 80 hours a week,” the association said. “Overtime is often uncompensated.” “

    Thanks for the douchey response though.

  • SENZ

    The developers of this game did almost nothing to improve the game this year and they go on break now?!? What a load of garbage. These clowns put out a broken ass game and then just ran off. Worst part of all is those goofballs that went to the community day just flat out lied to everyone about how amazing 10 was. Damn thing is nearly identical to 09, except more broken than 09.

    Pathetic.

  • rob

    T Daley is awesome.

    People say the following things:
    People: I can't play franchise, this sucks
    T Daley: Only losers play offline by themselves. Get some cyber friends to play online with like a man

    People: The rosters are screwed up
    T Daley: The season hasn't even started loser. You are lucky SCEA even lets you play their awesome game before the season starts.

    People: No demo! I want to try this game first.
    T Daley: You are a loser if you need a demo to try this awesome game first.

    People: There aren't enough changes from 09 to warrant a purchase
    T Daley: You are a loser if you think they need to change their game every year. They just need a new package to put the game in. You are lucky to be playing such an awesome game.

    People: I like anything by 2k
    T Daley: You are a loser!

    This guy cracks me up! Unless you go home and masturbate all over your Show game cover, he hates everything about you!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Murzyn/1671612906 Nick Murzyn

    Wow really disappointed to hear this to say the least. i have been waiting for this patch to start my franchise, so i feel i have wasted $60 for an unplayable game out of the box. good think 2k franchise mode works and plays pretty well cause the show wont be played untill the problems are fixed. i expected alot oout of the show this year and while everything else plays well, i soend the bulk of my time in franchise mode. i hope this isnt a sign to come for future baseball games from this company. just have to wait it out for a few more years untill we get MVP back cause theres no doubt in my mind EA hears the millions calling for it, no way EA dosent make MVP

  • http://twitter.com/DaveDQ David D.

    I think they dropped the ball with player models being fixed. They should have gotten that done this year and the game would have been given that boost that it needs. People are still enjoying it, but it looks the same. It needs a boost in the player model dept.

  • edude

    Yep – that's the way to get around most of the issues in Franchise mode. Set your team to your profile, then the rest of the teams to control, but not your profile.

    Then set trades to global manual/user manual.
    There's a good thread at OS here: http://www.operationsports.com/forums/scea-spor...

    I've done most of what's suggested, and it's working much better. Most important thing, trades will now be presented to you for every team, so stupidity doesn't happen.

  • Amen Ra

    Look man, I don't have a beef with you, I was quoting you when I said “get it through your head” just added ina little extra LOL.

    Regardless, I'm sick of people making excuses for these fucking developers. I was an investment banker before the “crash” and we routinely worked 80+ hour weeks for several months at a time without Overtime, and we weren't allowed a month long vacation right after the project was finished. If anything the vacation should be allowed right before the next one is started. they should have fixed the glaring issues with franchise, then took their little retreat. We are not talking about little minor issues like an occasional misplayed misplayed grounder or stat overlay, we are talking about a HUGE staple of the game being fucked up and unplayable. I just don't see how people can excuse this garbage.

  • Amen Ra

    I always thought MVP was over-rated. People always believe things were better in the past, but in reality MVP was no better than the Show.

    This franchise stuff is pathetic though. Maybe the layoffs affected the Q and A, but whoever those community days were were they let the whole gaming community team. I bet it was a stroke fest anyway which obviously added nothing to the game,

  • tom cruz

    The black players in the game are causing my tv to catch on fire is there gonna be a patch to fix and get rid of the black players

  • Keith.

    Pasta will never see anything too negative about Madden, given his close ties to the developers. He never called Tiburon out for going on vacation the month and a half after Madden was released. If any one recalls, nobody could get a word out of Ian and co. until November (except for the canned puffery video that Ian released soon after the game was released, pumping up the patches that were to come so that a lot of people wouldn't go off and trade in their copy of the game).

    Pasta's saying that The Show needs “a spark,” after giving Madden game of the year, is really a joke.

  • joeross

    i think some of the animosity comes from other places. you get banned for saying anything negative about the show at OS or threads locked if its about anything that they dont want to hear you talk about. then on the show's community site banned and locked often too. glad this place lets everyone vent about the problems with the game and how us gamers are being treated this year

  • cbrock24

    Oh stop, the game is $60 (if you need to save for a $60 game, maybe you should be using your money elsewhere) and well worth it. Severely flawed? Not even close.

  • cbrock24

    So dropping back 20 yards to throw a bomb 60 yards down the field is not a flaw? Ever think expectations are too high?

  • mattcolby

    Epic fail for The Show this season. You could almost forgive the bugs last year with it being the first next gen release, but this season there is no excuse. This game has gone from a highly anticipated game every year to a wait and see title from now on for me. I'll be getting it from gamefly next year instead of plopping down $60 on a preorder.

    Still enjoying playing in Season mode, but I highly doubt they are suddenly going to figure it all out in a patch and correct the other modes (they couldn't even get a simple roster potential rating fix right) so epic fail on their part. Here's to hoping they actually learn their lesson this year and don't become complacent. That could be bad for all of us.

  • mattcolby

    How well does the 2K franchise work? One thing I always liked about that game was the ability to make decisions in the quickplay mode (not sure what they called it, but it's the mode where there are no graphics and just the results of the plays etc..) I hate that The Show just makes you watch it and not really make any substantial decisions.

    Does the franchise in 2K actually work well? I've heard the stats are a little off, but if the basic stuff works right I can deal with that. Any info you can give on your experience with the franchise mode would be great. I really need to get my franchise play fix, and if the Show won't give it to me, maybe I'll have to break down and buy 2K this year.

  • mattcolby

    Wanting a game to release with features that actually work is not being a snob. Especially a game that is as highly rated and anticipated as this one. Having features that are absolutely broken is not acceptable, especially when the bugs can be found after just a couple of hours of gameplay. There is no way they didn't know these issues existed and they still released the game. Some of the issues (i.e game stopping on certain dates and not letting you continue) were actually in last year's game as well! So it was ignored two years running. Not acceptable.

    I can deal with the minor issues, because no game is perfect, but not when the issues effect a major portion of the game.

  • mattcolby

    So what do you do when the draft comes up? You either have to sim the entire draft and not get to select your own players, or you get to draft for every team. Doesn't seem like either solution is a good one there.

  • Amen Ra

    I'm with you 100% in this one.

  • mattcolby

    That's all I'm doing right now and I'm having a blast. I figured I'd just play short seasons with different teams and just enjoy the good parts of the game, because the gameplay is still the best around.

    I am upset that I can't play franchise mode without the fear of it locking up at some point and not letting me continue (had this happen once already) and had this happen as well last season in RTTS so I'm sure the issue is still there as well. Not about to put in the time there and run into that glitch again. I would even put up with the weird transactions if I knew the franchise would actually work multiple seasons without me having to start over from scratch.

    But this season looks like it's just season mode for me.

  • cbrock24

    Maybe you got a different game because my game works. And my game worked on all dates. Absolutely broken?! What is absolutely broken that you can't play? They will fix the minor issues.

  • mattcolby

    Nevermind mind question. I went over to Operation Sports to see what people were saying about 2K and it's got similar problems in franchise mode i.e unrealistic sim stats, contract being out of whack etc…I think I'll just stick to the great on the field gameplay of The Show this season and wait for Out of the Park 11 to release in April for my franchise fix.

  • mattcolby

    Well, let's see, in addition to the issues in franchise that people have brought up, when I simmed a season to check it out for myself I couldn't even get past August 12th because the game wouldn't let me sim beyond that date. Same thing happened on certain dates for people last season in RTTS.

    And if you actually read my post, you will see that I didn't say the entire game is broken, just certain main features. Just because you might be a few games into a franchise and nothing has happened yet, wait until you get to some unknown date in your franchise and for no particular reason you can't continue. All that time invested and you have to start over again. That's broken.

    And the same issue was in last year's game in RTTS. I spent numerous hours in RTTS last year only to have that time wasted because inexplicably the game decided to not let me continue on a certain date. And I wasn't alone. People were posting their issues and they were certainly “listening” but it never got fixed.

    The fact that the first time I even tried to sim through a season in franchise mode and the issue came up again just lets me know not to invest anymore time in these modes because they are broken. And that's not even talking about all the weird transaction issues that I could actually live with it I knew it would actually work.

    Enough info for you? So since you think the game is perfect, don't come crying on here after you've invested X amount of hours in a franchise and because of some unknown glitch you can't continue it.

    I happen to love playing the game in Season mode because I don't have to worry about these things. I think the gameplay is still the best around.

  • mattcolby

    Now who sounds like a snob?

  • cbrock24

    Actually you do. It's a GAME. When did you see me write the game is perfect??? My original post: “Raise your hand if you have played a video game without glitches….OK, that's what I thought. I have played the series for a few years and still think the game is great. Quit being video game snobs. Play the game, have fun, and move on to the next when you get bored/frustrated.” Yeah, really saying the game is perfect..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nick-Murzyn/1671612906 Nick Murzyn

    I mean TBH, i think it playes well you just have to adjust sliders to your liking. trust me when i tell you this i was so disgusted with 2k9 last year i never thought i would give 2k my money ever again but i did decide to buy 2k for some odd reason and if i thought at all it would not be worth sinking my time into it i would have returned it but its a good play, you can really fell the difference between a 75 rated pitcher and a 86 rated pitcher and thats huge IMO. if i thought at all i wasnt getting my moneys worth i would have returned it but im having much less problems in 2k franchise than i am with the show

  • edude

    That's true – that's an annoying, stupid side-effect of it.
    Although, what if you switch Trading back to Auto Global on draft day? Maybe that'd work?

  • Amen Ra

    Why don't you stop being a video game bitch and letting these developers fuck you.

  • mattcolby

    And I quote, “if you need to save for a $60 game, maybe you should be using your money elsewhere”
    If that's not a snobbish comment I don't know what is.

    And when did you see anyone else write the game was perfect either? And someone pointing out major problems with the game is not being a snob. Someone calling them out and belittling them actually is. Maybe you need to look up the definition of a snob in the dictionary before you start calling people that.

    And I'm the furthest thing from a video game snob. I have a gamefly account and play just about all the big releases and for the most part love every minute of it. The Show and God of War III are the two reasons I bought my PS3, because I already owned a 360 at the time. So seeing all the issues with The Show is just disappointing, and everyone has a right to voice that disappointment.

  • mattcolby

    Can you do that in the middle of a franchise? If you can, that might actually work. I still wish I would have never tried to sim a season since I ran into the glitch where it stops on a date and doesn't let you continue. I'd love to try the control 30 teams method, but after all that trouble if that glitch happens again after spending all the hours developing a franchise, I would be one pissed off gamer, and I don't know if I want to risk going down that road.

    I think I'm enjoying Season mode enough to keep me happy for now. Just wish “workarounds” weren't necessary to enjoy the franchise mode. And that being said, what if they patch it a month from now and fix it (highly doubtful they will actually be able to fix it really), but you have to start the franchise over again? I don't know. Just frustrated. Thanks for the info, though

  • edude

    Hey matt –
    I'll test that switching to auto thing out tonight for the draft. I would bet it works.

    I have simmed through a couple seasons with no freeze-up. Maybe it's a random thing only when simmed? So if u actually played the game, it'd be ok.

    Yep – the game's so damn good and fun to play, then such a letdown w/ the logistics.

  • Bighousefan

    I'm glad I don't do franchise or RTTS, I just pick up and play and may do 1 season while simming several games in a 162 season. With that said, I love it, it plays just fine to me…

  • sroeland

    MLB 09 was not the first next gen Sony baseball game…MLB 07 was.

  • mattcolby

    Yeah, realized that after I typed it. Epic fail on my part ;)

  • mattcolby

    Well, I would hope that would be true. But knowing the issue is there, it's hard to invest the time knowing it “could” happen, because there's no way I could get through a franchise without simming some of the games.

    Some have speculated that the the freezing occurs because the AI GM for the other teams doesn't make the required transactions at that point to move forward so it won't continue. So maybe controlling all the teams alliviates this problem. If it freezes you can check all the rosters for errors and correct the error to continue. It's really odd because the game lets you do everything else but sim past that date, so it technically doesn't “freeze”, it just doesn't let you sim anymore.

    Let us know how the “workaround” works with the draft. It might make it bearable to start a franchise, although I might still just stick to the Season mode cause I'm still having some fun with that. Gives me a chance to play a short season with one team and then try and win it all with another with the next playthrough. Kind of a different way to play for me, but I like getting to see more teams and play with different teams rather than just one. Plus all the stats are generated by me only so that's cool too.

  • http://pastapadre.com/ pastapadre

    Everyone will have different results since the circumstances of a particular franchise will never be exactly the same. It sounds like its “playable” but you would have to overlook many issues (unless you were to get hit with a freeze which is random).

  • Anonymous

    Hells to the yes.

  • Bisett

    I understand why you girls are bitter.

    You been dick riding The Show for so long your pussies are sore.

    Take a break for awhile and hop on 2k10 when your your rdy to ride again

  • neptune

    I'm officially pissed !

  • mattcolby

    No thanks, riding 2K10 would only give us some major STDs.

  • Derek

    Hey Pasta, so are you saying its not every game then? Because I am playing my franchise mode and haven’t had any problems. I even simulated a season just to see who would get traded, and it seemed pretty good. No big stars like Alpert Pujols were traded. Should I expect something to happen and wait until they get this patch out, or just continue with my franchise? Also, how do I get the patch to work if I wait, will I just do an update through Sports Connect, or what. I am just kinda of confused with this whole process.

    Also, I just wanted to say that I have been a long time player of The Show, and this has been by far the wirst problem I have seen. So if they have one little hick up, I will allow it without turning to 2K. Personally, I can imagine that 2K is doing a whole lot better any way because from what I read a lot of people don’t exactly care for the whole pitching motion with 2K. I like the simple, great realism that the show never fails to offer, and this little problem with franchise doesn’t change my opinion of The Show or Sony.

  • cbrock24

    So people are not acting like snobs? How many people have called out developers for not knowing what they are doing and told them how to do their jobs?. I'm calling out the people who drop $60 and expect perfection. There are some gamers that will NEVER be satisfied. If you don't fit the description, I am not calling you a snob. Some people are getting defensive for a reason.

  • cbrock24

    And I quote, “if you need to save for a $60 game, maybe you should be using your money elsewhere”
    If that's not a snobbish comment I don't know what is. Actually it is not a snobbish comment. If you are over the age of 22 and need to save up $60, it's true, you are not saving your money correctly.

  • DjNunez

    I agree, i got MLB 2K10 first this year, its actually not that bad and i haven't got any glitches. So give it a try. Doesn't it bother anyone else that P3 fan boys act like it's a sin to have MLB 2k10 for the P3.
    Bitches man, Bitches.

  • cbrock24

    Wow, nice response.

  • Trojan92

    So what kind of features would you like to see in the career mode?

  • JTT99

    scea seems to be pretty bad at communication. even if theyre on vacation that was not smart to say when people are waiting on them to fix big problems and give a complete product finally. they screwed people over with the demo too and acted like it didnt matter. then you cant even talk about any of it on their own forum or on OS without getting locked and banned which is insane.

  • vinny del negro

    people are angry at the numerous glitches and problems in franchise like not being able to send the african american players back to africa and the fact that they left out the white supremacy mode completely this year

  • Anonymous

    That makes sense – that the cpu messes up its rosters so much you can’t continue.
    So yeah, maybe that fixes that as well.

    Man, I feel bad for people who bought this game and don’t know much about the Internets!

    The Franchise, to me, is a bit overwhelming with things to keep track of. I work a full time job and have a life – which gets in the way of remembering all these fixes/go-arounds.

    So yeah, that’s a good idea. I may just do the Season mode – does Season Mode have the same trade issues?

    Plus, I doubt I’ll make it through one-two Franchise year anyways.

  • Anonymous

    Haven’t noticed any issues with Season mode. Of course I’m only playing a 14 game season so it’s hard to believe the computer could screw things up in such a short time. I like to play such a short season so I can try another team after that (I’m 2-5 with the sucky Astros right now; will try the Rangers next)

    I’m the same as you. Have a lot of time at work to post here during the day, so it seems like I don’t have a life, but I do. Got a baby on the way and only a couple of hours at the most at night to play so dealing with all the franchise “workarounds” just doesn’t seem plausible. Plus I play other games too besides this, so Season mode is fine with me.

    If you love good sim type games, try out Out of the Park Baseball for the PC (new version releases this April) I’ve been playing that game for years. It’s a text based sim that gets all this franchise stuff right and then some. I get my in game, on the field fix from The Show and my total control franchise type stuff from Out of the Park. If they could somehow combine their simulation engine with The Show’s in game performance it would be the perfect game. Will never happen in a million years, but one can dream.

  • mike

    I love how none of these online games count, constantly beating the idiots that pick the sox and yankees every game with teams like the padres but they have to disconnect so I never get wins, its amazing how poor of a job they did on this game this year, its really disappointing

  • The Entitlement Generation

    Don’t you guys make around 250K a year? Developers average 77K a year…

  • ummmmmm no

    Was this in Second Life?

  • Matt Bug

    Thanks for the updates, Pasta. I'm not online much and just happened upon your site. Good info.

    When I bought MLB10 The Show, I immediately tried Franchise Mode and noticed so many bugs I had to stop. For now, while we await a new patch, I'm limited to RTTS play and a few online games. I'm enjoying the RTTS improvements. Question regarding the RTTS “Calling The Game” feature: Have the developers mentioned why Training Points are not rewarded for this? It's a really nice, impressive feature (save the omission of a pickoff signal), but after calling a great game, it was a let-down not to see any Training Points rewarded to my RTTS player.

  • redrza

    Pasta, you keep mentioning franchise being very buggy, but online is a complete mess. Specifically, games played wins/losses not being recorded, online leagues being completely broken from not being able to even get back into them once they start(my league is stuck at “Initializing league office”, to stats and records being messed up. But the worst part is how many times this game completely locks up the PS3 console.

    Even after completing an online game fully, when you press exit to go back to the lobbies, it freezes up the console. This game is VERY BUGGY and needs to be looked at.

  • redrza

    Pasta, you still haven't mentioned all the bugs in the online portion of the game. This game in a little over a week has “locked up” my PS3 more times than i care to mention. Even after completing an online game fully, when hitting “exit” to go back to the lobby, the game constantly freezes requiring a manual shut off of the PS3. Other times there are disconnects and wins/losses not registering. Forget about online leagues. After 3 games in, we cant even access the league, get stuck at a screen saying “Initializing league office”, which also causes us to manually shut off the console.

    This game is VERY buggy. I'm really hoping they can fix all of this.

  • Anonymous

    I started my “season” last night. Set all trades and injuries to manual so I’ll make it happen along w/ force trade.

    For the draft, because it’s a season, I’m content just letting it fly w/ a random draft. And then I can force trade to get the young guys i want – (There’s no complicated minor league w/ season, thank god)

    That’s another stupid thing, is how the minors and majors are all meshed together in Roster Management. They couldn’t put a damn line inbetween them? Or am I miss some menu?

    Plus, the season never froze. Tried it a few times.

    But anyway, so far so good w/ those settings. I may have to “make” a few things happen, and off-season is annoying cuz every team can pop up w/ necessary moves, but I’m a happy player for now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000486371868 Brian Lindsey

    but for those of you that dont want to spend 60 dollars the demo has showed up in the PlayStation Store

  • Anonymous

    I’m not a developer, I’m a machinima director, but I can definitely see where SCEA is coming from here. When I get to a deadline and I’m working eighteen or twenty hour days to try to hit it, I screw things up and make mistakes. Stuff I’d never do if I was well-rested.

    That said, I am a bit pissed off about my RTTS player getting benched for a month because I successfully executed a hit and run while I had the red light for steal attempts (actually supposed to be benched for a series, but it never kicked in because I kept coming in as a pinch-hitter). But at least it wasn’t during the World Series like in ’09 when my MVP-winner had an 0-4 appearance in game 5 of the NLCS and rode the pine for eight and a half innings a game while my team lost the championship.

  • Justin

    It's virtually the same damn game every year, how is it even possible that they continue not fixing these stupid issues from year to year? Bring MVP back because this shit is just tired.

  • Justin

    It's virtually the same damn game every year, how is it even possible that they continue not fixing these stupid issues from year to year? Bring MVP back because this shit is just tired.

  • Dave

    I completely disagree. They might have always had the technical issues with video and/or sound, but never released unplayable franchise modes (or now my player and RTTS). These issues have nothing to do with the complexities of endless computer configurations that make some bugs understandable. They clearly released these games in BETA state and we were asked to do the testing for a $60 fee. Having a mode be unplayable for the majority of users because of the game logic is not an oversight, it is blatant indifference that will continue to get worse if we continue to buy these POS games. I will admit that The Show (viewed at Best Buy) has amazing graphics and great gameplay in Exhibition Mode, but invest time in the other modes at your own risk. We really need a one year boycott of both of these crap franchises. MLB 2K and The Show can only be considered games that support Exhibition Mode and nothing else.

  • Dave

    every mode in 2k10 is broken on the pc. The “my career” mode broke in the playoffs for me twice and franchise mode is riddled with bugs that make it unplayable. exlusive license has ruined this genre and is probably the worst I have ever seen it. I will not buy The Show since their support last year sucked. You can't send your devs on vacation if the franchise and rtts modes didn't work for more than a year. I will never buy either game again until they have at least one stable release (and i don't mean 2 months later after the first patch pulls it out of beta). Paying $60 bucks to do their testing is UNFORGIVABLE.

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