Your Thoughts on Madden NFL 13 Following E3 Announcements and Videos

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Posted June 16th, 2012 at 12:00 pm

Anticipation levels were high heading into E3 for Madden NFL 13 considering EA Sports had been hyping huge reveals to come out of the event for months. Those materialized with the “Infinity” physics engine, explanation of the “Connected Careers” mode, and further incorporation of legends. There are also now plenty of gameplay videos out to analyze which is the best way outside of playing to determine if the stated improvements are ultimately translating to a dramatically better game.

While many more reasons to get excited about Madden NFL 13 have been realized those have also been accompanied by deflating news for anyone who values editing players or importing draft classes from NCAA. As a whole where do your current feelings stand towards Madden 13? Vote in the poll below and leave any thoughts in the comments!

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Iown-You/100000775565221 Iown You

    Madden 13 is an over-hyped trainwreck, with advertised features that simply do not have the quality standard necessary to make them homeruns. As we watch each video of the Madden team patting themselves on the back for a job half-done, we begin to realize just how low their own internal standards are, making it no wonder at all why the game is so far behind the times.
    Furthermore, with the generation’s end just around the corner, we can conclude with certainty that this entire 8 years has been a bust, and we have zero legitimate reason to believe that Tiburon will get its act together next generation.

    • TheLibrarian-

      A trainwreck? Compared to the beginning years of this generation, Madden has improved significantly in the past two years (Madden 12 and Madden 13). Remember when GameFlow was the primary pitch for Madden 11?

      The game is still catching up to top sports games such as MLB: The Show, NBA 2K, NHL, and FIFA, but when considering what the Madden series was only a few years ago, I am pleased to see that the team is finally putting effort into creating a better game.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Iown-You/100000775565221 Iown You

        As bad as the beginning years were, they were at rock-bottom and had nowhere to go but up, so I don’t see how that’s anything to praise. I mean, for example, 08 was better than 06, yet both were two of the worst football games ever made with absolutely PATHETIC quality control.
        Secondly, don’t you see the problem in the statement you just made? The fact that Madden–the most popular and storied sports game in America with the biggest dev team and the biggest budget–is still “catching up” to anybody is a travesty. They should all be “catching up” to Madden.
        You have the right to praise the team for these little things they’re doing that are still inferior and of lower quality compared to its comptemporaries AND its predecessors, and I applaud your optimism. I on the other hand see Tiburon having squandered an entire generation of football gaming (because they have), destroying the genre perhaps beyond repair due to their lack of innovation, and lack of quality control.

        • TheLibrarian-

          Of course I don’t plan on arguing whether or not Madden is a “trainwreck” for the entrie day, so I’ll make this my last comment.

          I think when we look at what we’ve become accustomed to from Tiburon recently, we must receive some sense of optimism for the future of the game. In general, and especially when compared to other top sports games, your “trainwreck” comparison may apply to the game, but as I stated, it is certainly an improvement and it seems rather that the trainwreck that already existed is now beginning to be repaired.

          And I don’t mean to defend Tiburon in any way, I’d rather take a more neutral and impartial approach to the discussion of the game, but if they are at least trying to improve then I feel inclined to support them in some way. It’s much better than what I have come to expect of the Madden team. and “better” is not always enough, correct.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/DeVion-Xavier-Hinton/1161943623 DeVion Xavier Hinton

      I think you should at least wait for the demo before calling it a “trainwreck”.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Iown-You/100000775565221 Iown You

        Just like we waited for the demo for 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12? Yep good plan.
        We saw the videos so we can already see the problems; the same problems we’ve seen for 8 years. The demo is of no importance. And yes I know, I know, “that E3 build was an early build, blah, blah, blahbiddy, blah”. Same thing that’s been said for 06, 07, 08, 09, 10, 11, 12, and now 13.
        At some point you have to wake up and realize it’s groundhog day (Bill Murray reference).

    • Keith.

      Well stated. I agree with everything you said. More lipstick on a pig.

  • kdarnell

    Normally I’d say “overhyped” or “same shit as last year”, but it looks really good this year. CC sounds awesome, the graphics look fantastic, and if the physics engine works properly, this’ll be the best madden in a long while. My only complaint is the commentary, which still seems very bland.

    • TheLibrarian-

      Agreed. I’m used to hearing the fantastic commentary of NBA 2K and when switching to Madden it’s so evident how far behind the game is in terms of presentation. I am impressed with most of the improvements this year, but commentary does still appear to be lacking.

      • lp81

        Hell, even EA knows how do to excellent commentary. I was blown away by FIFA ’12′s indepth and insightful commentary. You’re even able to select between two different commentating teams.

        When I first heard the rumor that Nantz and Sims were joining the series, I had hoped it was to supplement Collinsworth and Johnson.

        As I’ve said in other threads, however, the deal breaker for me with this game is the inability to play an Offline Connected Career with two players on the same console.

  • http://twitter.com/drekellyy мellow мιιnd

    BRING BACK PLAYER EDITING!!!

    • MaddenBlows

      This game is gonna blow. Same fucking thing but now with clunky physics like backbreaker. Commentary might actually be worse, didn’t think that was possible.

    • Mooseboyj

      Stop whining

  • Pack52

    Sure not being able to customize people and import draft classes is a disappointment but I think this game will be good if they gave us everything we want one year what would they have to present the next year I don’t see why people are so negative to madden they given every thing I wanted

    • http://www.facebook.com/MikeyBotzNYC Michael Mckenna

      You couldn’t be any more wrong bro…

  • AmazinsCowboys

    This year’s game looks great. Everything, from CC to the physics engine looks like it’s going to be awesome. But the commentary, at least from watching the early video, SUCKS. Sounds really bland, NBA 2K12 and FIFA 12 and even NHL 12 completely blow Madden away in terms of commentary. But overall, this looks to be the best Madden yet.

  • Ooooog

    Can we get an “unsure” button. It seems good, but I’m sceptical.

  • Bobo

    While they aimed to give us a lot of new bells and whistles, they removed too many basic features that the Madden community wants.
    I understand why some things have to come out (import draft classes,etc), but there are some things that they could have left as an option for the league commisioner to set…ex: play any game on the schedule, edit players). And at the very least, left as an option in offline franchise.
    I’ve seen the videos where they tell us how they are giving us unlimited control and “infinite” ways to play the game…BULLSHIT….if that were true, those above mentioned items would at least be optional for us to set.
    They say they are listening to us and what we want….TAKE A LONG FUCKING LISTEN TO THE HUNDREDS OF POSTS HERE, AT OPERATION SPORTS, AT MYMADDENPAD, ETC!!! AND PLEASE PUT THE BASICS BACK IN THE GAME…THERE IS STILL TIME.

    • wolf onatshirt

      Operationwho? You mean that place with the nazi loser moderators that tend to have a dick up their asses, banning anybody that has anything remotely negative thing to say about EA because they’re on EA’s last morsel of smegma? That operationsports? Fuck that place

      • StlSportsFanatic

        They ban people that has anything remotely negative to say about any of the game devs that post there. I’m a huge fan of SCEA’s MLB The Show franchise. Well, I made a post talking about some things they needed to be changed, then all of a sudden *boom* I have a temporary ban? I got permanently banned for protesting the temporary ban lol

      • http://www.facebook.com/MikeyBotzNYC Michael Mckenna

        OS Mods take their job way too fucking seriously… Its as if they run a fucking Boarding School over there, tighter rules than a Catholic School… Bums lol

      • bigturboweenie

        lol, yea u get banned for disagreeing with someone. gayest site ever.

      • joe

        You can thank Ian for a lot of that stuff. The place was always pretty bad but during his time it was really fucking awful. They went and made the rules more harsh and vague so they would have an easier time justifying the huge amount of bans for anyone who was critical. They never got that there is no point in asking for community feedback when all you do is censor the shit out of whatever they say.

        • Keith.

          Even worse than the bans are what’s been left behind. The extent that Roadman, mestevo, jpdavis, and other EA ball washers go to defending Tiburon every year over there makes me want to puke.

  • Jordan Ray

    I went from a 100% on buying on release day to a 0% due to the lack of player editing and draft classes. I’ll probably still buy it once the price drops but no way I’m paying full price for an incomplete game.

    • Christopher5

      Yes, we were all fooled by the hype of RTP…and then this shit pops out. No editing means a no buy for me and everyone else i know.

  • http://twitter.com/Starfoxleon The Great Leon

    Not buying or playing. I usually play Madden to look at my NCAA draft classes and edit them, but that is gone now. Gameplay isn’t that big for me when it comes to Madden since I only use the Bucs. I play one season and then start a simming franchise, not much replay value for me. CC would have been interesting to me if it was connected to NCAA say you import your coach from dynasty or your player. I stayed away from superstar mode and only did franchise now they are combined. Just a whole lot of things have turned me off from the game.

  • BANE

    I was super excited for this years game until I heard I couldn’t edit my players In the season mode. That’s a super important feature for me and I wouldn’t find any joy playing without that ability. I won’t be buying this years game unless that feature gets patched in.

    • Mooseboyj

      So you can’t play unless you can beef up your guys??

      • Flick

        who cares about stats. No player should wear #16 for 49ers for example. I put Kyle Orton on the Cowboys and the game gave him #8. That would not happen.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Leon-Douglas/100000586305337 Curtis Leon Douglas

    i just hope that if enough pepole dont buy or just rented then ea -sports and josh looman gets the message for madden14.as a madden suporter this really hurts bad because i really wanted to play the super bowl in new orleans.and if them to crap on us who had pre-order this game is slap in the face to the loyal hardcore supporters. josh looman could have kept both modes. everyone dont play online. but i see the direction that andrew wilson and cam webber is going in i hope that the nfl see where the product is going with ea. and dump them in 2014.

    • bobo

      with respect, curtis….i say F madden 14. There is still time to make 13 salvageable. It is June 17, surely they can put a few of these core features into this year’s game before shipping.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Leon-Douglas/100000586305337 Curtis Leon Douglas

    they have had three program delevopers. but none of them would have screwed the harcore madden supporters. and you guys was so against ian cummings. but josh looman is the devil of sports gameing. and phil frazier was the man created the owner mode. its mighty funny all these years that people have wrote on blogs and said that the same peolpe who said that they didnt care about us. what the hell do you think josh looman cares. he is a hater of franchise mode because it wasnt his idea.so he went to cam webber and said screw them. they will buy it anyway. so we should screw him and force them to loose money dont buy none of the thier crap.

    • StlSportsFanatic

      There’s still a freaking franchise mode! Damn people are dumb. If you select a coach in offline connected careers, that’s what it is. There technically isn’t a ‘superstar’ mode either. It’s what selecting a player in offline connected careers is. & Before I get the forthcoming “You’re just an EA Fanboy”, please, can it. I haven’t bought a Madden in I don’t even know how long, and I have APF 2k8 on my shelf that I play all the time. That said, EA is finally making strides this year.

      • battle

        Figures you would mention APF 2K8, they had no franchise either, lol, or should I say one team franchise—– All I know is if you like the SHOW OR NBA 2K franchise, you should hate this shit madden is trying to pull this year

        • StlSportsFanatic

          Mentioning it solely for gameplay. & I don’t like that you can’t control rosters, but I also realize that they only have a one year dev. cycle, and created a better overall game mode (one that they will most certainly more old franchise features too), so not everything could be included, plus finally started to address the physics (which, once finally perfected or done well, will help fix other gameplay problems also)

      • http://twitter.com/ktsutt Kevin Sutter

        Noooo. Can’t control other games, rosters, etc. that is not the traditional offline franchise.

        • StlSportsFanatic

          Not the traditional offline franchise, but still a sort of franchise mode. Also, I’m thinking that they’ll return features in coming games, but I assume they had to put off the inclusion of some so they could work on balance.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Curtis-Leon-Douglas/100000586305337 Curtis Leon Douglas

    pasta do you know who at ea -sports or the other company i can right a letter to? and file a protest letter to. because im want them to know we feel about this pasta.

  • Mason Drews

    Gotta say Pasta these poll blogs are getting a bit redundant. Maybe just cluster all your polls into one blog?

  • wolf onatshirt

    You guys know how credible the Madden series are? They tried the gimmicky “Hey, let’s all post on operationsports and see if we get fans that way” Boy were they wrong. Then they went ahead and hired a poster directly from there, who has no experience inn the industry whatsoever. He is just a “fan of the sport”. Yeah, they hired him to be an “advisor”. They couldn’t hire someone from the NFL because that would be way too expensive.

    Honestly, fuck Madden. Until they get it right, i’m not supporting that shit no more. I’ve bought into their gimmick after gimmick for years, only to have disappointment ensue. Remember when they said they would patch certain things in games, only to have them patch it towards the end of the season, near the Super Bowl?

    Don’t be fooled by all the bells and whistles. You might find some rust in them.

    • Keith.

      8 frickin’ years. Almost enough to make me puke. Same ol’ garbage from the game ol’ garbage dev studio. They keep cleaning house but it never makes a lick of difference.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Iown-You/100000775565221 Iown You

        The problem is that they only clean house at the top, but they always keep their core group of sorry programmers and animators intact. That’s the real problem, but they appease the public by telling them they have a “new team”. It’s a trip because all people have to do is check the credits and they’ll see that. They’ll also see just how mf’ing HUGE the Madden team is. Someone explain how you can have a team THAT large and yet only produce this mediocre crap? Smh.

  • redneckchev

    I really wish everyone that had a part in removing 3 of the most important features of madden( and in any sports game) 1. Franchise mode (offline) 2. Roster editing 3. Import draft classes. They all should be fucking FIRED and SHOT. I FUCKING HATE stupid people.

    • cp0k2

      They didn’t remove franchise mode. And importing draft classes doesn’t apply to any sports game but Madden…

      • Jordan Ray

        Actually, in some sports games like NBA 2K12, you can just create your own draft classes. Now, we can’t even do that because if the draft classes suck in CC, WE CAN’T CHANGE THEM. Basically, the guys at EA have said, you’re going to play CC the way we want you to play. “The most immersive experience yet” has actually become the least immersive for me in a long, long time.

    • Keith.

      Now you know how us in-game save guys feel.

  • Christopher5

    i still want to know why the thought it would be a good idea to take out editing of OUR players in franchise mode? Does anyone know why they decided to do this?

  • WhensTheDemoDroppin?

    Whens the demo droppin?

  • Keith.

    Hard to be encouraged after seeing that Fallon clip. Tiburon football at its worst.

    • http://www.facebook.com/MikeyBotzNYC Michael Mckenna

      Just saw it too man, fucking horrible…

    • http://twitter.com/TreyIM2 TreyIM2

      Lol. Just seen it. While awkward, off balance ducks of a completion DO occasionally happen in the NFL, Brett Favre style (heh), that was NOT a good quick demonstration of the game. Have to smfh to that one.

    • SharQQ

      By far, the hardest I’ve ever laughed during any segment involved Jimmy Fallon! I can’t believe they even allowed that to be shown.

    • Dat shit cray

      What clip?

  • fudgebar

    you are the only one who can collectively voice all of our opinions to
    EA about how TERRIBLE a DESIGN decision it was to exclude Player Edits,
    Creations, and Play any GAME from Franchise MODE!

    THey need to INCLUDE the OLD FRANCHISE MODE back into Madden 13
    somewhere for all of us that enjoy playing with full customizations!!

    Please PASTA you MUST help us…….

  • http://www.facebook.com/MikeyBotzNYC Michael Mckenna

    I don’t get how people are saying the new Infinity Engine looks amazing after watching all of these E3 vids… I have seen a number of hideous looking player reactions, from guys flipping around after a hit to guys warping and and spinning into the ground due to the awkward position they had fallen into… Players after the play just walk and trip over eachother, everyone complained about Backbreakers wonky animations due to the physics engine yet Madden is producing the same thing and everyone turns their head… I want Madden to be amazing, but I am very doubtful about how the game will run. Plus subtracting preexisting features makes no sense. Editing a player adds so much of an “owner” feeling to the franchise. If I see my favorite quarterback wearing new accessories in a game, I would want to implement that into my Madden season. Or if a rookie comes in looking like an absolute mook, I would want to change that as well… I heard that the E3 demo was an Alpha Build, so hopefully they went to work and will win my heart over come release day. Till then, skeptical is my mindset towards M13

    • Christopher5

      AMEN

    • Keith.

      Exactly.

    • Bleak5170

      I’m with you on that. The new Infinity Engine sounds good on paper but the on-screen results look awkward as hell.

      • Keith.

        Agreed. In all of the E3 gameplay videos I’ve seen, guys are flopping around all over the place when plays are finished — looks terrible.

  • Jesus

    I mean they finally do what we have wanted for years in improving game play with the new infinity engine and giving Franchise and SSM a new look with CC. But of course just leave it up to EA to mess everything up. I mean seriously why would you even take out player editing and importing classes? And I’m sorry but if you can’t edit rosters in CC or out of it and then bring the rosters into it, then you should just remove editing altogether. What honestly even pisses me off more is not playing every game in Franchise. I mean when I’m the Steelers and I see NE vs SF on the schedule, I’m going to want to play that game. Especially games like the Conference championship games and the Super Bowl as well. Again I appreciate them improving game play and career modes, which is priority number one and should be, but still that’s basically all we get now.

    • cpk02

      Importing draft classes will be back next year when NCAA updates to what Madden has. It’s impossible because Madden is a completely new game and NCAA is still the way it was. As for “taking out” editing, I think it’s more of a case of building a new game from the ground up and in the grand scope they wanted to get as many new features (and the connected careers is huge) in as they could. It’s not like they could just port editing over from 12, it’s not compatible.

      All of that isn’t to say I’m ok with it. At least, not the editing. I haven’t used an NCAA draft class in a few years because the college player ratings never translated to Madden. Andrew Luck was always a mid round pick when I tried it out last year, so it’s not a big deal to me that it isn’t in. But no, I’m not happy about the editing, but I understand why it’s absent. I’m tired of saying “wait until next year”, but I actually do have some optimism for next year this time.

  • imatexan3

    my thought is the Texans logo on the helmet is tilted way to much and looks horrible, if it’s not fixed it’s gonna bug the crap out of me.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAoLanYek0s

    • Jordan Ray

      Jesus. That is bad. As a diehard Texans fan, that’s pretty much the only team I use. Guess it’s just another reason for me to pass this year.

  • Jordan Ray

    To add to the unrealistic nature of Connected Careers, I just found out from a tweet by Josh Looman that your player can’t even get injured in the mode and miss a game or two. So you’re apparently playing the most durable player in the history of the NFL. Injuries happen to everyone but I’m not surprised EA didn’t include it. It must be “too hardcore” of a feature to include.

  • doug

    at first it seemed like the connected careers was going to be a good addition, but the things they’ve taken out to make it work has me very disappointed. no fantasy draft is a major issue for me, and i will also miss player editing and importing of draft classes. it seems like every year they add in things people don’t care about and refuse to address issues that have been around for years

  • yo

    i dont care how cool that tackle looks, all im gonna see is every player flopping, FLOP FLOP FLOP. theres gonna be so much flopping they should rename madden to flop

  • http://iphonegamerblog.com/ Cody Sharp

    Haha. They made sure they won’t get my money when they took out local, multiplayer franchise support. Just plain dumb

  • tru36

    I hear all this about no editing rosters etc, is this for even offline franchise aswell??

    • Christopher5

      from everything i have read, i think so…makes no sense.

    • Keith.

      There is no more offline franchise…according to Josh Looman. Instead, there’s connected careers, which has no roster editing, etc. Yet, it’s somehow supposed to be an improvement for us (they think if they say it enough times, people other than Game Changers and your average EA fanboys will start to believe it).

      • Christopher5

        How long do you think they will keep this up..i mean they have to realize that this is a huge deal breaker. i bet there scramblin right now to make a patch. They lost a ton of sales becuase of this.

        • Keith.

          Honestly, I’m not really sure what they can do. During the recent investor conference call, Ricotello talked about EA’s new initiative across all their games to always be “connected.” EA looks at it as an easier way to get into consumers’ wallets for paid-DLC.

          The problem is, how do you reconcile the “always connected” concept with things like player editing, which are totally individualized. If I want to make Barron Batch with the Steelers a 90-rated running back in my franchise, it wouldn’t seem like the “always connected” thing would work if you don’t want Batch being a 90-rated running back in your franchise through our “connected careers.”

          In other words, EA/Tiburon is certainly aware that consumers aren’t happy about this, but I’m just not sure there’s anything they can do about it, unless they ditch the “always connected” philosophy they’ve adopted (and none of us asked for).

          Of course, nobody in the gaming media is talking about this — at some point though, there not going to have a choice but to face the reality of the situation.

          • Christopher5

            good stuff…yea this was a huge miss on their parts. Took a huge swing and missed. Its bad enough that we cant import draft classes anymore…and i assume we wont be able to change player names after the draft to make it accurate either. All of this is why i am not buying either game this year.

  • myk13

    less likely to buy after hearing about no player editing. I was already upset over no ncaa import. CC should have been an additional game mode.

  • Christopher5

    im keepin madden 12 and im going to edit the shit out of my rosters lol cause i can.

  • Marino84

    No Fantasy drafts?? Seriously??

  • ANGRY MADDEN FAN!

    HOW THE HECK ARE YOU GONNA TAKE AWAY FRANCHISE AND IMPORTING DRAFT CLASSES!!!!!!!!!?????????? STUPIDEST IDEA EVER!!!!!

  • Childplease

    The physics is engine is making the game bad…love the new catching, db react animations. Running animations need serious wrk. Last yr kick meter was what the fans wanted n they r changing it bak to the easy kick meter. There aare too many hits n not enough tackling.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Todd-Lyon/100001544838801 Todd Lyon

    I have to say I always get annoyed with people bashing EA, and saying the game is the same as last years, full of bugs, etc … . But this time they messed up BIG! I have owned every NCAA and Madden since 1998 specifically because I love importing my players from college into the pros (in 98 – 02 you could import individual players at least). I am so angry they are removing this feature this year. The generic madden draft classes suck. I am obligated to buy Madden this year because I know Calvin Johnson (went to GT with him) and he is on the cover …. but this seriously sucks!

  • nyjed

    no chance i buy this game…what a waste

  • NYG

    to everybody who keeps dissing on every madden game every year, its very simple stop buying the game and get over it. play something else if your just gonna trash the game cause their are plenty of people who enjoy playing the game. here’s another tip, if you hate the game production so bad, get a job in game production and fix it yourself if ya’ll think that you have the best ideas for the game, otherwise quit bitching aightt

  • XxEAgl& N@Ti0N7xX

    plss ea. mouthpiesces. This infinity engine is looking good but is causing a lot of falling of players that are not even around the ball. Tatoos? Would b nice but gameplay is important

  • ibrondo

    We all want player editing to be back!!!! I even think that they should put some colors and stuff to make it good looking

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