Deal on NBA 2K12/MLB 2K12 Combo Pack

I’m curious about something, Keith. I know you keep up with this information pretty closely. Do you know what EA stocks were looking like just before the Exclusive NFL deal, and then shortly after? When did the downturn start?

To have even more fun, we can use EA’s own investor calculator to illustrate what we’re talking about.

If I invested $10,000 in EA’s stock back on Feb. 20, 2005, it would be worth $1,962.38, a loss of more than 80%. (Thanks EA for the tool, which can be found here:

http://investor.ea.com/calculator.cfm

Using the same example with EA’s calculator and yesterday’s closing price, my original Feb. 20, 2005 $10,000 investment would now be worth a total of $1,860. Some performance.

daley, do you REALLY wanna do this? Okay.
1. APF was/is the best playing football game ever made. You can say what you want about its editing limitations and lack of franchise, but the X’s and O’s ON THE FIELD where it counts were solid and that’s not even debatable. So to call it a “piece of shit” is utterly ridiculous. Madden 06, 07, 08, 09 were all pieces of shit because besides being laughably awful with X’s and O’s, those games sucked in every other department, too.
2. Calling 2K5 a decent game is an opinion, and you’re entitled. But the public at large (both fans AND critics alike) considers it a legendary game. I concur with their sentiments. It was THEE football game of our time and it remains relevant today only because Tiburon has failed to produce a better product after all these years. When history is recounted 20 years from now, writers won’t be talking about Madden 2005. They won’t even be talking about any of the half-assed Madden’s from THIS generation, they’ll be talking about how great of a product NFL 2K5 was and how much of a shame it was that the magic could never be recaptured again not even by 2K themselves.
3. The fact that a “last generation” game (2K5) still has better presentation, better OL/DL interaction, better WR/DB interaction, better commentary, better animation cohesiveness, better franchise (try editing players in Madden 13, HAHAHA!!!), better halftime show, better postgame show, better weekly show in franchise, better pass rush, better pocket-forming, better blocking AI, better running game, better passing game based on timing and rythym, better camera work, better cutscenes, better broadcast camera, more camera options, more options period… all means one thing: Madden is a poor excuse for a “next generation” product and has been for 8 seasons.
4. You said: “Even if 2k did manage to get the license, which is a huge improbability, They don’t have the talent that could even pull it off. Really, who are they going to get who even has a clue about making football games.”
That entire block is ridiculous. They don’t have the talent? Are you freaking kidding me? The same team that worked on 2K5 is mostly still with the company right now. Guess what they produced? NBA 2K, and guess what? That game has gone down as the greatest basketball franchise of all time. It didn’t happen by accident, it happened BECAUSE of talent. Something Tiburon has very little of. Want proof? Look at the mess that we call Madden, look at the crappy NCAA, and look at NBA Elite/Live. All garbage, all behind the times, and one of those has been cancelled in recent years(NBA Elite), AND the newest version is being dunked by critics already, lol.
5. “It would take 2k several years to even come close to making a respectable football game ”
More ridiculousness. The fact that you don’t consider APF “close to respectable” tells me that you don’t care about or don’t understand football fundamentals. Hey no problem, play your arcadey non-sim Madden. But don’t tell me APF wasn’t sound in its representation of professional football because that’s a lie, and Madden CERTAINLY does not do a better job of that outside of having the NFL license. Very little about Madden is an accurate simulation of pro football besides having the players and teams, and they even manage to screw that up with inaccurate uniforms and player likenesses, smh.
6. “Keep dreaming and keep playing your NFL2k5 while you cry in your pillow each night”
So in other words, you’re telling me to keep playing a fun, masterfully made, legendary product that after all these years the bums at Tiburon can’t top and yet scramble year after year to add something else that 2K5 already had nearly a decade ago. You’re also telling me that because NFL 2K5 is so great I’ll be continuing to cry into my pillow in happiness over its sheer awesomeness.
Well daley, since you put it that way, I will continue to enjoy a greatest all-time legendary product and let you continue to play a new but somehow outdated joke of a product that does nothing but disappoint year after year with no end in sight.
Have fun with that.